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  • Notable Judge Blasts Apple's Attorneys For "Frivolous" Motions in Case


    Judge Richard A. Posner, of the U.S. District Court in Northern Illinois, criticized Apple and their attorneys for “frivolous filings” for the company’s ongoing patent dispute with Motorola.

    Posner’s words are especially significant considering his influence in the legal world. On top of being an appeals judge, Posner is the most-cited U.S. legal scholar of the 20th century according to Florian Mueller of FOSS Patents.

    Mueller made a valiant attempt to collect every Apple-Samsung lawsuit filed in the last year. With more than 50 separate suits between the two companies it’s amazing it took the dispute with Motorola to elicit a response from the vocal judge.

    Posner’s comments were in response to a motion from Apple seeking to prevent Motorola Mobility from deposing a certain expert. The details remain under seal but Posner claimed on half of Apple’s motion was “frivolous,” and the other was “untimely.”

    According to Mueller Apple drew criticism from Posner because the iPhone maker attempted to use an expert’s wife’s medical condition to block a deposition. Apple then filed a second attempt to block the expert’s deposition only three days later, this time without citing health issue.

    "The next such motion, and I shall forbid (Apple) to file any motions without first moving for leave to file," Posner said in his decision.
    Posner’s threatened sanction against Apple will not put them at a particular disadvantage during the rest of the proceedings according to Mueller. But, Posner’s claims could be a signal that the current patent war wearing its welcome.

    Source: FOSS Patents [via Apple Insider]
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Notable Judge Blasts Apple's Attorney's For "Frivolous" Motions in Case started by Phillip Swanson View original post
    Comments 38 Comments
    1. mustard05's Avatar
      mustard05 -
      The guy in the pic remands me of the guy from "Curb your Enthusiasm." All I can picture is him saying, ehhhh. LOL
    1. NakedFaerie's Avatar
      NakedFaerie -
      Apple need to grow up and realise in the real world things don't always go the way you want them to.

      They need to be the bigger man and be happy with others copying the iPad. If its that good they should be so happy its getting copied.
      I personally believe there are so many problems with the iPad the other companies are doing it right and fixing the flaws.
    1. mustard05's Avatar
      mustard05 -
      Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
      Apple need to grow up and realise in the real world things don't always go the way you want them to.

      They need to be the bigger man and be happy with others copying the iPad. If its that good they should be so happy its getting copied.
      I personally believe there are so many problems with the iPad the other companies are doing it right and fixing the flaws.
      What makes you think Apple needs to realize (that it is how it is spelt BTW) that things don't always go the way they want them to? Apple has had many failures over the years.

      We are speaking about a company who was beat out by Microsoft in the 80's and 90's. A company that was broke and ironically helped by the same company that put Apple in that situation. If its one thing that Apples knows, it is you definitely don't always get what you want and things don't always go as you would like them to.
      Apple has had a very good run the last several years. Good for them, because nothing last forever.

      As for the iPad and issues. Name one device that doesn't have a fare share of problems.
    1. severe's Avatar
      severe -
      Probably a Windows guy.
    1. oddphone20's Avatar
      oddphone20 -
      Windows guy probably forgot more about computers than most here ever knew. Apple is starting to follow the same path it did years ago that caused their problems. I'm using the tweak quasar.... This is how a tablet should work. Apple in their infinite wisdom will never allow this. Seems we all have sacrificed usability for a shinny wrapper. The only thing Apple has innovated is easier to use Operating systems. No real groundbreaking functions, just old tech spit shined. Why use a pc and have full control of all functions when you can do it the right way(Apples way). When you have full control of your computer....if you don't know what your doing you can f them up. Jerks do all kind of stupid **** and blame it on the computer. And it seems alot are computer illiterate the way people speak on this forum. Good thing Apple exists for the incompetent computer user. If you tell me about PC problems your just highlighting your incompetence( and ignorance) im this area. Apple needs to realize real innovation keeps you ahead not lawsuits. But I guess a lot of people like defending Apple not knowing the facts. Kinda goes with the mindset most apple lovers have.Can't really blame them...sheep really just follow. People like to speak of things they know nothing about.I'm now starting to think Apple blows. Apple users may come from a higher income group. But income does not translate to intelligence or full cognitive reasoning. This may explain a lot.
    1. Migx's Avatar
      Migx -
      To odd putting it simply if I invented something then you get to copy it and get the credit for it I will kick your *** and that's exactly what apple is doing but you know on corporate levels not personal go do your own inventions and don't copy others and no one will make any issues over it mr intelligent and no am not from a higher income groups and I can't really afford the products that they offer but just to say that it's not ok to steal the ideas that other people spend years to create and improve
    1. oddphone20's Avatar
      oddphone20 -
      Your Ignorance shows no bounds. Apple has stolen countless things. And obviously you did not read what I said. "what have they truly invented? Smart guy. Not what they claim.

      It's better to stay quite and thought dumb than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
    1. Migx's Avatar
      Migx -
      Then if they stole there is a legal system and do the same thing they do to others otherwise no one will stop copying from both sides
      Was their any tablet markets before the iPad ? I doubt now look at the market you can see all the brands in that market? Same goes to the iPhone in terms of the screen and applications yes yes there was phones with. Touch screens and stuff but not same features

      And once again we kept the intelligence for you as you have an IQ More than Steve jobs and bill gates combined
      It's a forum and I can express my opinion as I want if you don't like it just get the **** out of here
    1. oddphone20's Avatar
      oddphone20 -
      By the way, I am fortunate enough to be able to purchase their products. I've had every generation of the iPad and iPhone. I'm not speaking through my butt crack. I have also had many android tabs and phones. I've done my own research. Spent thousands to come this conclusion. What have you done? If you can't even afford them how can you speak of their "ground breaking device". Your speaking of things you know nothing about. Do you know what cydia is? The app store is a outright rip off. Cydia existed first.

      What are you ten? Tablets were designed in the 80s. Apple just took away the pen. And yes you may have an opinion, but I can have one also. And apparently my intelligence is much higher than yours. When a person reacts the way you are it just shows it.

      Windows phones had Bluetooth(advanced protocal) in the early 2000s iPhone not till iOS 4.0(2011). They had many programs and functions that still don't exist on the iPhone.
    1. Migx's Avatar
      Migx -
      I afforded only an iPhone4 and mine is locked and I did customize the iOS to unlock and update and jailbreak which at least give an idea bout the cydia lol my device, in terms of affordability I meant their macs and iPads things that really cost a lot so please if you have lotsa devices that's good for you but I also I made lots of research when I bought mine as its something will last with me for a while so don't assume other people don't know even if they dont own since you can read as much as you want and know as much as you want enjoy your day

      I didn't say tablets I said tablet market can't you tell the difference they made a market for the device and got huge profits out of it
    1. oddphone20's Avatar
      oddphone20 -
      Your taunts don't faze me. Your ignorance amuses me.

      If they existed, there was a market.
    1. Migx's Avatar
      Migx -
      Ya you are smart as I said earlier enjoy your day
    1. oddphone20's Avatar
      oddphone20 -
      You can read al you want. Until you own something you can't make assumptions. Didn't anyone tell you not to Beleive all you read?
    1. Migx's Avatar
      Migx -
      Ps a market that is profitable that's what they have created
    1. oddphone20's Avatar
      oddphone20 -
      Please just intelligently argue your point. Think things through. Apple has some good products,but, for anyone to say they invented the market,tablet, or smartphone is insane or just an uneducated viewpoint. Bla...bla...bla... Your so smart. YES I AM. At least compared to some. You've come to a gun fight with boxing gloves.
    1. Migx's Avatar
      Migx -
      Yes yes you are the educated higher income guy with lots devices and knowledge we got to know that
    1. redline11786's Avatar
      redline11786 -
      Quote Originally Posted by oddphone20 View Post
      By the way, I am fortunate enough to be able to purchase their products. I've had every generation of the iPad and iPhone. I'm not speaking through my butt crack. I have also had many android tabs and phones. I've done my own research. Spent thousands to come this conclusion. What have you done? If you can't even afford them how can you speak of their "ground breaking device". Your speaking of things you know nothing about. Do you know what cydia is? The app store is a outright rip off. Cydia existed first.

      What are you ten? Tablets were designed in the 80s. Apple just took away the pen. And yes you may have an opinion, but I can have one also. And apparently my intelligence is much higher than yours. When a person reacts the way you are it just shows it.

      Windows phones had Bluetooth(advanced protocal) in the early 2000s iPhone not till iOS 4.0(2011). They and functions that still don't exist on the iPhone.
      Duuuuude, you need to chill...and quit being such a cocky idiot about this. Seriously go enjoy your day, you made it pretty obvious you don't enjoy em much.
    1. oddphone20's Avatar
      oddphone20 -
      I now need to speak to others maybe to build on my already massive knowledge base. Can't Go over Apples sorted history(30+). People may understand these things if you have followed tech for the last 25+ years. IBM at one time laughed at Apple. Apple laughs now.....who laughs tomorrow?

      Not cocky..it called confidence.

      By the way, where exactly was I cocky? Being Fortunate is not being cocky. Knowing facts is not being cocky. If dude wants to get sarcastic with me I can dish it out 100 fold. Please read all interactions before you but in with your 2 cents.
    1. Migx's Avatar
      Migx -
      Exactly the point was their really any good operating systems for phones before apple kicked in IOS and then android got introduced regardless copied or not same goes for the tablets was their any OS for tablets that made all the companies fight over the market in such way just to say only that Samsung used to have crapy phones before android and I assure that's from experience even HTC had touch phones but also not that good all were not good enough till android saved them before being crushed by the IOS phones Nokia had Symbian which was the leader for a while till they kept changing models and keeping the OS same as is and now it's just an outdated phones no one wants to buy it and if someone else create something that is really way Better than IOS yes they will laugh at apple as apple is laughing at everyone now
    1. oddphone20's Avatar
      oddphone20 -
      No, Migx. I am not highly educated. I have a GED. Family problems required I quit early. Assume,assume,assume. I was never fortunate enough to return( for higher education). Kinda makes me wonder. The rate of ignorance I have been seeing is astonishing. By the way...ignorance is lack of knowledge pertaining to a specific subject... I'm not calling anyone stupid.

      Migx, yes. I see you are more knowledgable than others. Thank you for those words of intelligence(no sarcasm intended).If people really read or followed tech they would understand that everything has been done. Now it's just tweaking hardware and streamlining operating systems.

      There are really no new innovations.
      Didn't mean to personally offend you. When things get heated I tend to follow.