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  • Walter Isaacson: Steve Jobs Really Did Hate Android


    Remember when Steve Jobs said this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Jobs
    I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this.
    Walter Isaacson is the man behind Steve Jobs' biography. He has come forward to explain that Steve Jobs really did have a problem with Android, which is opposing the words recently spoken by Google co-founder and CEO Larry Page saying, "I think the Android differences were actually for show. I had a relationship with Steve."

    Isaacson, having spent a ton of time with Jobs to compile the biography, came around to Steve's views on Android versus iOS on many accounts while with him. Isaacson illustrates Jobs' feelings about Android as he is quoted saying, "Google rips it off. It's almost copied verbatim by Android. And then they license it around promiscuously. And then Android starts surpassing Apple in market share, and this totally infuriated him. It wasn't a matter of money. He said: 'You can't pay me off, I'm here to destroy you'."

    Citing MacRumors, Isaacson believes Tim Cook will take a different approach to handling the way Apple operates in co-existence with Android. Jobs was very closed minded when it came to competing products making sure people believed Apple was the best and there was no other practical choice, which is why it angered him so much when consumers flocked to Android and why Jobs always went on the offensive against Android. Isaacson believes Cook will instead try to "settle" all of these lawsuits between Apple and other manufacturers of Android smartphones rather than leave them on the full-blown offensive.

    Sources: MacRumors
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Walter Isaacson: Steve Jobs Really Did Hate Android started by Anthony Bouchard View original post
    Comments 86 Comments
    1. H4CK3R's Avatar
      H4CK3R -
      Steve has the right to hate Android, he put his heart and soul into helping design software and products for Apple. Android came out a year or so later and people flocked to it, He has the right to hate them for stealing his hard work. I HATE Android. I have no compassion for it, everything I've ever felt for it is hate.
    1. iPod's Avatar
      iPod -
      Quote Originally Posted by X H4CK3R X View Post
      Steve has the right to hate Android, he put his heart and soul into helping design software and products for Apple. Android came out a year or so later and people flocked to it, He has the right to hate them for stealing his hard work. I HATE Android. I have no compassion for it, everything I've ever felt for it is hate.
      Fail.
    1. H4CK3R's Avatar
      H4CK3R -
      How's that a fail? There's nothing in there that is even worth saying 'Fail' about.
    1. DeadGlory's Avatar
      DeadGlory -
      Quote Originally Posted by GooseG View Post
      Firstly, don't call him SJ. Second, Android blows. Anyone with a brain can see that. Steve had a brilliant mind, therefore he hated android.
      Sounds like this guy wants to give SJ a blow job. Keep grazing sheep, Apple products arent for everyone.
    1. H4CK3R's Avatar
      H4CK3R -
      Quote Originally Posted by DeadGlory View Post

      Sounds like this guy wants to give SJ a blow job. Keep grazing sheep, Apple products arent for everyone.
      Lol! I agree
    1. DeadGlory's Avatar
      DeadGlory -
      Quote Originally Posted by cmay227 View Post
      Sj was a **** everyone knows he was a ****. just because he died doesn't make him a saint. and for everyone who says android sucks, you precious iPhone just added quite a few features in ios 5 that android had long before. iPhones are for simpletons. android take a little more effort in the brain dept. also google doesn't make phones so the release 1 phone a yr comment is stupid. google does it because it make a shitload of cash licensing out the os.
      +1
    1. iPod's Avatar
      iPod -
      Quote Originally Posted by X H4CK3R X View Post
      How's that a fail? There's nothing in there that is even worth saying 'Fail' about.
      Your whole statement reeks of fanboyism."Steve had all the right to hate android. Android came out a year later and people flocked to it. They stole his hard work. I HATE android. everything I've ever felt is hate." LOL you want to go into the steal hard work thing? iOS 5 reeks of android and jailbreak dev ideas. If android didnt exist, then apple would have a monopoly, and we would never see any improvements to the iPhone. Competition is goo, it keeps innovation going. If one company is always trying to beat the other, then we'll continue to see advancements in technology. If it weren't for android, we'd all be stuck on 1.0. (let's see if I can type more faces than you) :
      Please, if you're going to be a fanboy, then at least make some valid points
    1. landon418's Avatar
      landon418 -
      You guys are complete idiots. Dont talk **** about android when you dont have android. I have an ipod touch 2g, iphone 4g, and ipad2g, and i say android is far superior. My droid bionic can kick the iphone'as *** anyday. 1GB ram, 1ghz dual core proccesor. Not to mention im using Miui ics which is very clean. It is all based on what phone you are using.

      Also, apple ripped a lot of **** from android like the pull down notifications.
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Is it really that hard to express differing opinions without resorting to inappropriate language and insulting others? Infractions have already been given out in this thread for breaking the forum rules. Please follow forum rules when posting.

      My two cents: I have a 4S, a galaxy nexus and a lumia 800. Hardware wise I would have to go with the galaxy nexus (love the big screen). OS wise iOS is easier to use and faster to get things done on. The biggest difference is the app store though. Android market is not up to par and when I use my nexus I always find myself missing two or three essential apps that I cannot find replacements for in android market. I like all three OS's but the apps available in iOS make the difference IMO. Those saying apple stole ideas from google are very correct. They also stole tons more ideas from the jailbreak community. Google also stole ideas from apple for android though. Works both ways, and IMO is a good thing, who cares who came up with it first. In the end we all benefit.
    1. Painkiller006's Avatar
      Painkiller006 -
      Quote Originally Posted by X H4CK3R X View Post
      Steve has the right to hate Android, he put his heart and soul into helping design software and products for Apple. Android came out a year or so later and people flocked to it, He has the right to hate them for stealing his hard work. I HATE Android. I have no compassion for it, everything I've ever felt for it is hate.
      People flock to Android because it gave them options, something that to this day Apple hasn't given the consumers. You get choices like, keyboard, bigger screen, 3D..etc. Like someone else said your comment is nothing but hate for something you probably never got to use. And how can you hate something this good?
    1. H4CK3R's Avatar
      H4CK3R -
      :P I'm a proud hater of Android
    1. Painkiller006's Avatar
      Painkiller006 -
      Quote Originally Posted by X H4CK3R X View Post
      :P I'm a proud hater of Android
      That's nothing to be proud of actually. Shows how closed minded you are just how Jobs was. Hopefully with him out of the way, real innovations will come out of apple and hopefully all these dumb patent stuff dies down a bit.
    1. xLastWishx's Avatar
      xLastWishx -
      I always LOL at Fandroids. Why? They always whip out specs like quad-core and 1GHz processors and 1GB RAM YADDA YADDA. Well let me tell you something, soon 1GB RAM will be OBSOLETE in the future, you'll always be upgrading and wanting more, faster. The iPhone AND WP7 are smooth and they don't require those specs just to run smoothly. Last time I checked MOST Android phones can't even run the official ICS. It was publicly released in October of 2011. Sad that only 3% of all Android handsets out there run ICS officially.

      I'm not gonna deny that I'm pro iOS and WP7 and Anti-Android. The only reason why I hate Android is because SOME consumers like to, like I said, whip out retarded specs. "LOL MY PHONE RUNZ 0.005 SECONDS FASTER THAN YOURZ". Also SOME Fandroids like to disrespect someone who achieved more in their lives (Steve Jobs) yet the people that are disrespecting achieved NOTHING. Calling Jobs out for his mistakes while ignoring your own is rather idiotic. Like I said what have YOU achieved? Otherwise Android is a FANTASTIC platform just needs to pull it together and stop the fragmentation.

      EDIT: I agree with Simon completely.
    1. iPod's Avatar
      iPod -
      Honestly, if I could have all my jailbreak tweaks without lag, I would be set. That's the thing about android, you can customize it without losing speed. Otherwise I love iOS, but could NEVER stick with stock iOS..
    1. RyoSaeba's Avatar
      RyoSaeba -
      Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller006 View Post
      A lot of people complain about the iphone battery life, remember this?
      iPhone Battery Life Flaw Confirmed By Apple; iOS 5 Update To Solve It
      Yes but the issue was fixed by Apple which 'normal' people can easily do with iTunes. Heck, with OTA updates, you don't even need iTunes! And best of all, you don't need a jailbreak to fix this battery issue (which I never had on my 4S). Seriously, you all are just splitting hairs here...

      Quote Originally Posted by ipodtouchman77 View Post
      Honestly, if I could have all my jailbreak tweaks without lag, I would be set. That's the thing about android, you can customize it without losing speed. Otherwise I love iOS, but could NEVER stick with stock iOS..
      Not sure what tweaks you're using but the ones I use does not lag mine at all. Heck, try "FakeClockUp"? It'll even speed up your phone without losing battery life!

      Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller006 View Post
      People flock to Android because it gave them options, something that to this day Apple hasn't given the consumers. You get choices like, keyboard, bigger screen, 3D..etc. Like someone else said your comment is nothing but hate for something you probably never got to use. And how can you hate something this good?
      Because their implementation sucks! What good are different keyboards when key presses are inaccurate/slow? My friend used my iPhone to type and the first 30 seconds he says "wow, your keyboard is so responsive compare to mine." What good is a bigger screen when the resolution is so low and colors are over saturated (AMOLED)? What good is 3D when no one cares for it? iOS and WP7 are so refined out of the box, you don't need to root or change anything to enjoy it.
    1. H4CK3R's Avatar
      H4CK3R -
      Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller006 View Post
      That's nothing to be proud of actually. Shows how closed minded you are just how Jobs was. Hopefully with him out of the way, real innovations will come out of apple and hopefully all these dumb patent stuff dies down a bit.
      That's opinion. There would be no iPhone if Steve Jobs wasn't here. We all know that.

      @Simon Thanks bro that stuff they said was getting a little old...
    1. Breezy215's Avatar
      Breezy215 -
      Quote Originally Posted by cmay227 View Post
      Sj was a **** everyone knows he was a ****. just because he died doesn't make him a saint. and for everyone who says android sucks, you precious iPhone just added quite a few features in ios 5 that android had long before. iPhones are for simpletons. android take a little more effort in the brain dept. also google doesn't make phones so the release 1 phone a yr comment is stupid. google does it because it make a shitload of cash licensing out the os.
      "android take a little more effort in the brain dept...." That's true, if you have Alzheimer's...
    1. H4CK3R's Avatar
      H4CK3R -
      Can you guys just stop being rude in this topic? It's getting a little old...
    1. Painkiller006's Avatar
      Painkiller006 -
      Quote Originally Posted by RyoSaeba View Post
      Yes but the issue was fixed by Apple which 'normal' people can easily do with iTunes. Heck, with OTA updates, you don't even need iTunes! And best of all, you don't need a jailbreak to fix this battery issue (which I never had on my 4S). Seriously, you all are just splitting hairs here...

      Not sure what tweaks you're using but the ones I use does not lag mine at all. Heck, try "FakeClockUp"? It'll even speed up your phone without losing battery life!

      Because their implementation sucks! What good are different keyboards when key presses are inaccurate/slow? My friend used my iPhone to type and the first 30 seconds he says "wow, your keyboard is so responsive compare to mine." What good is a bigger screen when the resolution is so low and colors are over saturated (AMOLED)? What good is 3D when no one cares for it? iOS and WP7 are so refined out of the box, you don't need to root or change anything to enjoy it.
      Your comment smells like pure fanboyism...Just because you didn't have the issue doesn't mean hundreds of other people didn't. Besides, Apple themselves acknowledge there was a problem. Resolution is low on a bigger screen, doubtful. No problems on my GS2 and resolution isn't low either. I can be a fanboy aslo look, my friend used my GS2 to type and in the first 30 seconds he said "wow, your keyboard is so responsive compare to mine" And i wasn't just talking about on screen keyboards, talking about a real psychical keyboard. If no one cared for 3D then not a single person would have bought the Evo3D or the other 3D phone. Just because YOU don't care for something doesn't mean everyone else doesn't care either. Lastly, If your iOS is so refined out of the box, why did YOU jailbrake it then?
    1. iPod's Avatar
      iPod -
      Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller006 View Post
      Your comment smells like pure fanboyism...Just because you didn't have the issue doesn't mean hundreds of other people didn't. Besides, Apple themselves acknowledge there was a problem. Resolution is low on a bigger screen, doubtful. No problems on my GS2 and resolution isn't low either. I can be a fanboy aslo look, my friend used my GS2 to type and in the first 30 seconds he said "wow, your keyboard is so responsive compare to mine" And i wasn't just talking about on screen keyboards, talking about a real psychical keyboard. If no one cared for 3D then not a single person would have bought the Evo3D or the other 3D phone. Just because YOU don't care for something doesn't mean everyone else doesn't care either. Lastly, If your iOS is so refined out of the box, why did YOU jailbrake it then?
      Thank you