Apple

Originally Posted by slap690

These factories must be gaurded with guns. I mean think about it, people getting paid less than 300$ a month and 1 freakin ipad worth 500 us$. Come on. Theft has GOT to be an issue over there

Good point. Think about how many iPhones/ iPads they make per day.

Originally Posted by exNavy

Beats working in a rice paddy all day long hoping you have enough food to eat day after day.

Typical American answer. Thank you for showing why world wide the Americans are thought of as idiots.

Originally Posted by slap690

These factories must be gaurded with guns. I mean think about it, people getting paid less than 300$ a month and 1 freakin ipad worth 500 us$. Come on. Theft has GOT to be an issue over there

No no Slap they are not guarded with guns, the workers are fitted with ankle bracelets packed with explosives. If they try and run away they are blown up, if they sleep too much they are blown up and when they get too old they are fed to the younger workers.

You are aware that China is the country that bailed you out?

Theses are people that are working to feed their families.

Originally Posted by sziklassy

First of all, wealth and resources can't be distributed "properly". For one thing, we wouldn't have wealth if it was all distributed. various regimes tried that. It ended in poverty... Also, you seem to be on your high horse. I am sure you are typing this on a Chinese made product. Shame on you, sir. Either boycott, or stop this hypocrisy. You benefit from the suffering and oppression of others just as much as I do.

Never said I didn't benefit from it. But to avoid it is virtually impossible. Also, I'm not saying to necessarily distribute the wealth evenly across the board. That wouldn't make sense. Yes, things like socialism have failed, but look at the rulers. No one can deny that it's ludicrous the way royalty or government officials live and rule in 3rd world countries. The other things is no one needs "wealth", and when you look at the numbers you can distribute the money in America so that EVERYONE would be "well to do". While I will agree that's not necessarily the right thing to do because people who don't work for money don't deserve it, I do think that people in other countries are treated very poorly and taken advantage of by big corporations and their countries. Yes, the cost of living is less, I understand that, but they still are not afforded nearly the amount of luxuries we are in America or other 1st world countries.

Happy meal costs the same all over the world! West will die if poor country will not exist!all west money are made from using this countries but I can assure you that soon this will change!west greed its higher and higher sooo...

Originally Posted by andypropaganda

Yes, the cost of living is less, I understand that, but they still are not afforded nearly the amount of luxuries we are in America or other 1st world countries.

Right there... the only way the oppression will stop is if WE stop it. If you are enjoying the products that come from these factories you are contributing to the oppression. It literally is that simple.

Originally Posted by jongarrett

that's like saying african slaves shouldnt have complained about their conditions because they should have been happy just to be in america.

wtf..

That can not match an iphone4 !!!

Originally Posted by jOnGarrett

that's like saying African slaves shouldnt have complained about their conditions because they should have been happy just to be in America.

African slaves weren't getting paid and they were forced by white Americans to work as slaves.

Foxconn workers are welcome to leave any time and find other jobs. But they know they'll never find a better one given their lack of education and competition.

Think before you speak on a subject you know nothing about.

stupid argument. but then, i've never understood why the pound is twice the dollar, especially when u.s. gdp runs circles around that of ANY other country. i just get the feeling that everything is fixed beyond our control, especially with those of us here dropping our meager two cents. hey, if you really feel bad about having your iphone while others barely get by, volunteer. stop boo-hooing for other workers continents away when there's so much unemployment in our own back yards. i'm sure south central could use a hand. comptom? whatever ... you won't change much, but it might make you feel better. i'm not giving up my iphone just to make others feel better. as a matter of fact, when one of my iphones drowned in the pacific, i bought another one. when the 5 comes out, i'll be there too. peace, love and joy to everyone, chinese and all!

Originally Posted by ******Mother

iPhone 6*

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Originally Posted by andypropaganda

It doesn't matter how they live back home compared to the factories. That's the whole problem. It's people like you who take things for granted and add to the feeling of entitlement in 1st world countries. If wealth and resources were distributed properly throughout the world we could probably have a good standard of living across the board, but everything revolves around greed. Anyone living in a first world country is very lucky even if we do have our own issues and things could be run a lot better, and yes, in first world countries wealth distribution and economies need work. Even still, it's nothing like living in a down trodden area of a third world country. If anything going to a FACTORY that was 100 times nicer than my home would piss me off like there's no tomorrow because you know that those people aren't giving nearly enough back to the community.



Thank you.

What da fock? Um, lemme see, I'm black, and I have an I phone,....( confused)

Originally Posted by Rockjock

Typical American answer. Thank you for showing why world wide the Americans are thought of as idiots.



No no Slap they are not guarded with guns, the workers are fitted with ankle bracelets packed with explosives. If they try and run away they are blown up, if they sleep too much they are blown up and when they get too old they are fed to the younger workers.

You are aware that China is the country that bailed you out?

Theses are people that are working to feed their families.

It's all about how the workers are treated (which is clearly suspect in this case, but the poor treatment seems to be only partly Apples fault). Hopefully, if people thought about it, they'd realize that the workers are compensated extremely well and Apple is a boon to their economy. In fact, the jobs are SO good that the workers are willing to accept very poor treatment to keep them and that's where the exploitation comes in. They obviously shouldn't be paid on an American payscale and there is nothing ethically wrong with outsourcing to cheap labor pools (the only negative aspects of which are tied up in nationalist ideology which is hopefully going by the wayside in a global economy). They should definitely not be subjected to such crappy working conditions. If they worked 40 hours instead of 80 hours a week how would that affect cost and product release dates? Why does that go on? These are the despicable things that transcend Liberalism into basic human decency. No excuse Apple and no excuse Chinese labor policies.

We should all be willing to pay more for these products so worker conditions can be improved - regardless of whether or not the workers themselves demand it. That goes for everyone not just Americans, as the bigoted author of the quoted post suggests.

Originally Posted by virtualcappy

It's all about how the workers are treated (which is clearly suspect in this case, but the poor treatment seems to be only partly Apples fault). Hopefully, if people thought about it, they'd realize that the workers are compensated extremely well and Apple is a boon to their economy. In fact, the jobs are SO good that the workers are willing to accept very poor treatment to keep them and that's where the exploitation comes in. They obviously shouldn't be paid on an American payscale and there is nothing ethically wrong with outsourcing to cheap labor pools (the only negative aspects of which are tied up in nationalist ideology which is hopefully going by the wayside in a global economy). They should definitely not be subjected to such crappy working conditions. If they worked 40 hours instead of 80 hours a week how would that affect cost and product release dates? Why does that go on? These are the despicable things that transcend Liberalism into basic human decency. No excuse Apple and no excuse Chinese labor policies.

We should all be willing to pay more for these products so worker conditions can be improved - regardless of whether or not the workers themselves demand it. That goes for everyone not just Americans, as the bigoted author of the quoted post suggests.

wait, I as an American understand what is going on. In the business world of things, I am a micro-organism compared to these companies. What the hell can I do about it?#1, the got-d#med phones should be made here in the u.s, they wouldn't even have the labor(slave) issues they( all of em) and I mean all, decided to stay in the u.s, but that's a whole different subject, I understand that these companies had labor issues, but that's what unions are for. I'm American and try my best to buy and support my fellow Americans. Even though this phone and prob 80% of the shyt I have is from china we have to rebuild ourselves first and that's the problem with us we are quick to help others but not being aware of the damage we are doing to ourselves. And that goes in every aspect of business( stock,foreign, etc.. Greed is a hard habit to fend off...it's worse than being addicted to drugs...

Can you Imagine the price of any Apple products if all of Foxconn jobs where here in the States.

Originally Posted by Bluemoldycheeze88

Can you Imagine the price of any Apple products if all of Foxconn jobs where here in the States.

Astronomical.