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  • Apple Issuing Take Down Notices to Major Piracy Sources

    Apple is finally attacking their money-making barricades.

    Piracy is a large problem in the computer world and one company that's really feeling the pain from it is Apple. As we know Apple takes a thirty percent cut from all App Store sales. This means it makes sense that Apple would want to kill off any iOS piracy firms. One of the large firms can be accessed from iDevices through a Cydia source with their own application. This is one reason why Apple doesn't want us jailbreaking our iDevices. We don't condone piracy and it isn't allowed here. Apple doesn't want it around either.

    Cracked iOS applications cost Apple a ton of money. Millions are downloaded each day out of ignorance that people are really hurting the companies. Millions more are downloaded each day on purpose because people want stuff for free and simply don't care that what they're doing is wrong. The after effect of all of these applications not being sold is Apple and the hard-working developers included losing out on billions of dollars.

    Apple has issued 'take down' warnings to one of these firms in attempt to destroy the firm. This firm is taking measures into their own hands to try and avoid being shut down by moving their servers to countries around the world where copyright isn't applicable. A cowardly move by the firm involved - they are attempting to keep the servers up and running completely against Apple's demands and against United States copyright laws. The firm said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Piracy Firm
    Over the last several months, Apple has been scraping [piracy firm name withdrawn] for links and sending huge takedown notices for a ton of content. We’ve been working to keep [piracy firm name withdrawn] up-to-date, but the only (effective) way to prevent automated takedowns was to add a CAPTCHA to outbound links. In addition, we finished moving our servers to several different countries earlier this week. This has raised our costs far beyond what we can afford with declining donations, meaning that we will have to place an advertisement on that CAPTCHA page.
    With Apple supporting the SOPA bill by proxy early in the beginning of its introduction and later backing away from it, we can now see why Apple is so stifling about piracy. Apple backed out of the SOPA bill only because of the seemingly questionable powers that it gives the government and businesses. Aside from that, the idea of being able to shut down piracy firms sounded good to them. We will likely see more bills similar to SOPA in the future that try to keep piracy from existing.

    We expect that with Apple attacking one of the largest cracked iOS application firms, we will see much more coming up. Like all companies, they are out to make money and anything that stands in their way is a threat that needs to be terminated. Companies have fought piracy for ages - will Apple be able to put tighter control on it? Only time will tell.

    Do you think Apple will be successful in breaking most iOS piracy in half? Share in the comments.

    Sources: 9to5Mac
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple Issuing Take Down Notices to Major Piracy Sources started by Anthony Bouchard View original post
    Comments 204 Comments
    1. Anthony Bouchard's Avatar
      Anthony Bouchard -
      Quote Originally Posted by Agent929 View Post
      That's a little harsh isn't it?
      Not really. If you want something you should work for it. That's life.
    1. Cowboy's Avatar
      Cowboy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Agent929 View Post
      That's a little harsh isn't it?
      I don't think so. I totally agree with his comments.

      Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
      Not really. If you want something you should work for it. That's life.
      And you beat me to the punch
    1. Anthony Bouchard's Avatar
      Anthony Bouchard -
      Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
      I don't think so. I totally agree with his comments.



      And you beat me to the punch
      You can have the next one :-) lol
    1. Agent929's Avatar
      Agent929 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
      I don't think so. I totally agree with his comments.



      And you beat me to the punch
      Just the tension.

      I don't know why this stuff gets posted when they know it's gonna get ugly lol
    1. Cowboy's Avatar
      Cowboy -
      Thanks

      But seriously I am not going to sit here and say I have never stole anything. What I am going to say is that it is wrong on every level. It's like going to work a 40 hour week then someone else gets your paycheck. Devs put so much time and energy into the apps and tweaks. That we should pay them the 99 cents or what ever it is. Don't pay for a pop that day. I want to keep the good debs around not run them off
    1. Anthony Bouchard's Avatar
      Anthony Bouchard -
      Quote Originally Posted by Agent929 View Post
      Just the tension.

      I don't know why this stuff gets posted when they know it's gonna get ugly lol
      This is where it all gets SRS. This is SRS stuff.



      I think comments will only continue to be stern from everyone - it's a topic where everyone's opinion will be heard.
    1. iphone?3gs's Avatar
      iphone?3gs -
      The people that are saying that people who say piracy is wrong are not looking at it from another view must have no self respect or morals. If you dont like an app or dont think it matched the description, return it!! Yes you CAN return apps in the app store if it is for a good reason and in a good amount of time. How to do it?

      Go to your purchases and click report a problem on a purchase, pick your situation and have a good reason (not matching description, inadvertently purchased, etc) and a apple rep should return your money if they think it is a good reason. PLEASE DONT USE THIS TO HURT THE DEVELOPERS IN ANY WAY..

      Piracy hurts developers and you should understand that. There is NO reason for piracy, know what your buying, look for reviews, or look for a lite app. But dont make developers not want to develop because you are being cheap and dishonest. Not being able to afford an app isnt a reason to pirate. Talk to the developer, get a better job, save up, find an alternative app but you dont need to pirate and steal from the developer.

      Have some morals people.... Dont buy "crap" apps like an idiot, if it really doesnt match the description, then report it as a problem. "Ive been taught not to throw away money"- quote from Zokunei above... Have you been taught to not steal?
    1. Cowboy's Avatar
      Cowboy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Agent929 View Post
      Just the tension.

      I don't know why this stuff gets posted when they know it's gonna get ugly lol
      It's an open discussion. People are going to have different opinions and people are going to hash things out as long as its clean and respectful its fine. Personally unlike seeing people's points of view. Wrong or not it's a learning experience
    1. Agent929's Avatar
      Agent929 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
      It's not Apple's job to offer trial periods. It's the developer's job. The big picture here is that if you need something - know what you want and then buy it. You don't need to pirate for an excuse to get things for free - trying it or not.

      I have asked numerous developers in person if I could try something and they were more than happy to let me have a try with it.
      I just read this post I don't know how I missed it. I would say it sorta is apples job since there technically isn't any other way to get an app on your phone except thru the app store. There's not really an option to try it, and I don't believe the developers could make that an option other than a lite version. Most of the time the lite version is nothing at all like the real deal.

      Quote Originally Posted by iphone?3gs View Post
      The people that are saying that people who say piracy is wrong are not looking at it from another view must have no self respect or morals. If you dont like an app or dont think it matched the description, return it!! Yes you CAN return apps in the app store if it is for a good reason and in a good amount of time. How to do it?

      Go to your purchases and click report a problem on a purchase, pick your situation and have a good reason (not matching description, inadvertently purchased, etc) and a apple rep should return your money if they think it is a good reason. PLEASE DONT USE THIS TO HURT THE DEVELOPERS IN ANY WAY..

      Piracy hurts developers and you should understand that. There is NO reason for piracy, know what your buying, look for reviews, or look for a lite app. But dont make developers not want to develop because you are being cheap and dishonest. Not being able to afford an app isnt a reason to pirate. Talk to the developer, get a better job, save up, find an alternative app but you dont need to pirate and steal from the developer.

      Have some morals people.... Dont buy "crap" apps like an idiot, if it really doesnt match the description, then report it as a problem. "Ive been taught not to throw away money"- quote from Zokunei above... Have you been taught to not steal?
      I never knew that.
    1. zakspop's Avatar
      zakspop -
      Quote Originally Posted by rickuk View Post
      The music industry has failed to beat piracy
      The film industry has failed to beat piracy

      Can't see Apple winning where everyone else has failed on this front
      Why leave out the software industry. Software piracy isn't a new thing that started with iPhones. Hell, it has been around longer than both music and movies. The best you used to be able to do with movies is hook 2 VCR's together and copy a movie. It looked like crap and sounded as bad. As for music, a dual cassette deck was it. Software has always been digital so a copy was a true copy. There has been all type of anti-piracy schemes tried and all were defeated. Apple won't be able to defeat it either. All they can do is try to keep it in check and make it difficult for all but the most determined.
    1. GunHo198's Avatar
      GunHo198 -
      I'll admit it if no one else will that I have used cracked apps. Eventually I've bought everyone. The try before you buy weeds out the crap and saves a ton of money. Even the apps created for cydia are cracked and given away in cydia. More than a few times I've had problems with paid cydia apps and sent an e mail to the developer and they promptly replied and fixed there app. It's more than ever worth the tech support and updates to purchase the app for a few dollars. Whatever the out come may be I support paying for the app. Once I even had an issue with an app and after the developer responded I found out that it was infact a cracked app that I had installed and since I hadn't purchased it I felt it was only right to BUY the legitimate app and give it a try. The real app worked fine. It was only the cracked version that was flawed. I even told the developer the truth and he said THANKS with a laugh....
    1. Anthony Bouchard's Avatar
      Anthony Bouchard -
      Quote Originally Posted by Agent929 View Post
      I just read this post I don't know how I missed it. I would say it sorta is apples job since there technically isn't any other way to get an app on your phone except thru the app store. There's not really an option to try it, and I don't believe the developers could make that an option other than a lite version. Most of the time the lite version is nothing at all like the real deal.
      Apple is just a host that collects royalties off of developers' creations for using their App Store. The developer should have the say in if they want to offer trial software or not. That's how it has been for the last decade.
    1. mr117's Avatar
      mr117 -
      Wow! This page alone is full of a lot of... people twisting and turning. Stealing is stealing. If you steal a candy bar or the signal for DirectTV, you are stealing. Stealing does not have to involve a physical object. Intellectual rights are just that. Someone owns the right to something and someone is stealing the use of it. Let's get off trying to make exceptions about what stealing is.

      Your mamas know what stealing is. They taught YOU what stealing is when they told you not to do it. You tell your mamas what you are doing, they are going to tell you that you are stealing.

      No one is going to starve because they have to have an app. No one HAS TO HAVE an app. People WANT apps. If you buy the phone, then buy the apps. Don't make excuses about trying first or anything else. That's all they are, excuses. If you want it, pay for it. If you can't afford it, you can't have it. Small version: a $.99 app. Big version: a $150,000 Ferrari. You buy it, you own it. You take it, you stole it. Just because it's easier to steal the app than the car does not change what it is. It's theft.

      If Apple (or a dev- Apple makes 30% of the sale) wants the money the app costs, then give Apple/the dev the money. You give money to the local food store you go to, or are you all boosting milk and bread as well? And let's not bring up, ooh, I can steal 'cause I'm starving. You aren't starving for an app for your $100 a month phone. You just want something for nothing. Yes, a return policy would be nice, but it is not in place. Either get another phone that has a return policy for its apps or buy the damn things for your iPhone/iPad. We all buy lots of things it turns out we don't like- be they clothes, food, movies, etc. If you go see a movie, and you don't like it, do you demand your money back? Do they GIVE your money back. Caveat emptor (buyer beware).

      Stop the spin, stop the whining, stop the immorality of saying, well, I steal apps but I don't think it's stealing.

      It is.
    1. GunHo198's Avatar
      GunHo198 -
      I'm not even going to mention how many times I've had to fix other people's iPhones because they installed some crap that screws up there iPhones costing me several hours of time for FREE... (Or maybe I just did)....
    1. Agent929's Avatar
      Agent929 -
      Quote Originally Posted by GunHo198 View Post
      I'll admit it if no one else will that I have used cracked apps. Eventually I've bought everyone. The try before you buy weeds out the crap and saves a ton of money. Even the apps created for cydia are cracked and given away in cydia. More than a few times I've had problems with paid cydia apps and sent an e mail to the developer and they promptly replied and fixed there app. It's more than ever worth the tech support and updates to purchase the app for a few dollars. Whatever the out come may be I support paying for the app. Once I even had an issue with an app and after the developer responded I found out that it was infact a cracked app that I had installed and since I hadn't purchased it I felt it was only right to BUY the legitimate app and give it a try. The real app worked fine. It was only the cracked version that was flawed. I even told the developer the truth and he said THANKS with a laugh....
      I'll admit it as well, but I grew up. I always thought it didn't matter they were loaded with money. Lol when I was new to jb'ing, I thought you had to use the program in question to get apps or it would mess up your jb.

      Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
      Apple is just a host that collects royalties off of developers' creations for using their App Store. The developer should have the say in if they want to offer trial software or not. That's how it has been for the last decade.
      I defiantly can't put up an argument with you because I wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but I've never seen a true trial program on the app store (not saying it doesn't exist because I don't really know)
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by iphone?3gs View Post
      The people that are saying that people who say piracy is wrong are not looking at it from another view must have no self respect or morals. If you dont like an app or dont think it matched the description, return it!! Yes you CAN return apps in the app store if it is for a good reason and in a good amount of time. How to do it?

      Go to your purchases and click report a problem on a purchase, pick your situation and have a good reason (not matching description, inadvertently purchased, etc) and a apple rep should return your money if they think it is a good reason. PLEASE DONT USE THIS TO HURT THE DEVELOPERS IN ANY WAY..

      Piracy hurts developers and you should understand that. There is NO reason for piracy, know what your buying, look for reviews, or look for a lite app. But dont make developers not want to develop because you are being cheap and dishonest. Not being able to afford an app isnt a reason to pirate. Talk to the developer, get a better job, save up, find an alternative app but you dont need to pirate and steal from the developer.

      Have some morals people.... Dont buy "crap" apps like an idiot, if it really doesnt match the description, then report it as a problem. "Ive been taught not to throw away money"- quote from Zokunei above... Have you been taught to not steal?
      I'm not the one who said that. I've been arguing that piracy is stealing. Thanks for the rest of your post though, that's some pretty useful information.

      The one who actually said that was oddphone20. I wouldn't necessarily call what he's doing stealing though since he buys apps as long as they work.

      I'll press the "thanks" button if you edit your post
    1. hogcia's Avatar
      hogcia -
      How about greedy apple takes a less percentage form app sales to help developers out? RIGHT!
    1. GunHo198's Avatar
      GunHo198 -
      I think Apple should focus on making the AppStore BETTER so that getting a cracked app is pointless. The in-app purchase is a good example like the action movie effects app that was previewed on here is a great example. It is free and you can BUY more effects as of which I did and I would deffanantly buy more. My friends find it amazing. A good salesman doesn't talk down his Compatition, he tells the buyer how much BETTER his product is!...
    1. Anthony Bouchard's Avatar
      Anthony Bouchard -
      Quote Originally Posted by Agent929 View Post
      I defiantly can't put up an argument with you because I wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but I've never seen a true trial program on the app store (not saying it doesn't exist because I don't really know)
      Another type of trial system that Apple allows besides Lite versions is in-app purchases. Download a free application, if you like it pay for more features.
    1. ggab's Avatar
      ggab -
      Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
      Are you kidding me? You're going to revert to personal attacks to get your point across? You've just lost ALL of your credibility from me.

      Your definition of a trial is as far up the bull line as I can see. A trial is anything that lets you test something to see if it works. Screen Shot 2011-12-31 at 12.37.23 AM.png
      Please let me know of an app in the AppStore where you can try out the EXACT APP before you buy it. You can't. You can "try out" lite versions. That's not a trial. Lite versions aren't always indicative of what you'd actually pay money for. The features in the lite version may not be the same because they're DIFFERENT APPS. Features may exist in the full versions that may not exist in the lite versions and the said features may not function as well as they should. You won't know that until you pay up. Android does this right, Apple doesn't.

      Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
      Another type of trial system that Apple allows besides Lite versions is in-app purchases. Download a free application, if you like it pay for more features.
      And what if those extra features don't perform like they should? Do you get to test them out before you buy them?