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  • iPhone Comes to Verizon, Finally


    Verizon chief operating officer Lowell McAdam announced today that a version of the iPhone 4 compatible with its network would be available for pre-order to existing customers beginning February 3, with general availability February 10. The culmination of more than two years of rumors came as almost an anticlimax, as virtually every media outlet was reporting the Verizon iPhone as fact before it was announced. "If the press writes about something long enough and hard enough, eventually it comes true," McAdam said, acknowledging the long wait for a second carrier in the United States. Apple COO Tim Cook, who joined McAdam on stage at New York's Lincoln Center, hailed the step, saying Apple was "incredibly pleased to give Verizon's customers the choice we've been waiting for."

    Perhaps most strikingly, Verizon will let customers tether up to 5 devices to their iPhones using their 3G Mobile Hotspot app which will be pre-installed. Verizon says they will charge $199 for a 16GB model and $299 for the 32GB, with a 2-year contract. They did, however, decline to answer questions about the cost of the data plans, saying that "pricing will be announced at a later date." This comes after days of speculation that Verizon would offer the same unlimited data plan they give to other smartphone customers. And the question of whether the iPhone 4 on Verizon would support simultaneous voice and data was answered by Dan Mead, president and CEO of Verizon Wireless, who said it was "the same as other CDMA devices." In other words, it won't.

    Also unanswered is whether the new phone also comes with an updated antenna assembly. This is a new model of iPhone 4, as changes to the device's internals were necessitated by the switch to a different network protocol. However, take a closer look at the photo above: see that black line on the upper-left-hand corner? Yeah. It's surprising that they would not brag about a Death Grip-free iPhone if they had one, though, so it may just be a design change forced by the CDMA radio. Verizon did repeatedly emphasize how prepared their network is for what is expected to be an onslaught of data-hungry iPhones. Dan Mead said that the carrier had been drive-testing with thousands of iPhones and "could not be more pleased" with the performance.

    McAdam was also mum about a CDMA version of the iPad, which was a longshot possibility for today's announcement. Also missing in action was any timeline for an LTE version of the iPhone, even though Verizon will complete rolling out its nationwide 4G network this year, with AT&T to follow next year. This does follow the generally conservative pattern Apple has historically shown: AT&T's 3G network was largely in place when the original iPhone was announced, but it only supported the slower EDGE standard until the iPhone 3G was released in 2008.

    Industry analysts generally predict sales of between nine million and 12 million Verizon iPhones in 2011, with Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster counting on Verizon to boost total iPhone sales by 5 percent or more, which would bring Apple an additional $5.9 billion in earnings this year.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: iPhone Comes to Verizon, Finally started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 229 Comments
    1. elite_jounin's Avatar
      elite_jounin -
      Lol so basically no voice and data at the same time?! = massive fail/epic fail. Not to mention they have last years phone...laughable!
    1. saunupe1911's Avatar
      saunupe1911 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
      This is not news, this is simply how CDMA works and Verizon's plans cost. They've made no indication they're changing anything for the iPhone.
      I've never been on Verizon or had a CDMA smart phone. My first smart phone was a Samsung Blackjack back when 3G was first introduced on AT&T. I'm never using a smart phone that can't simultaneously use voice and data. MyWi while talking to a client equals $$$ for me. Nuff said
    1. billchase2's Avatar
      billchase2 -
      Excellent. Now, everyone get off of my AT&T network and go to Verizon. ;-)
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      Quote Originally Posted by dq13 View Post
      You can not unlock a verizon phone to work on sprint, this is not like GSM. CDMA carries have a special firmware so if you want to transfer a phone from verizon to sprint, you need to flash a specific carrier firmware that will change the ESN which is kinda like IMEI, so it is not legally possible and it is not like blackberry that you can clone a firmware from a sprint BB
      Nobody is talking about hacking or flashing. The deal is non-exclusive to Verizon. All that's mentioned is that Sprint can negotiate a deal with Apple and offer a CDMA iPhone of their own since Apple is already building one. No unlocking/flashing. Just walk into a Sprint store and buy one. How is that so hard to understand?

      The thing with the data/voice simultaneously is that current VZW customers won't know any difference. This would only be a problem for people jumping to VZW from a GSM network. Current CDMA customers don't know what they're missing so they'll be blissful in their ignorance.
    1. emoticonartist's Avatar
      emoticonartist -
      Yikes - no data + voice simultaneously & no world capability?

      Sure their network my be better than AT&T's but Big Red always seemed more closed off than most places!
    1. fmlouder's Avatar
      fmlouder -
      I bet facetime on 3G won't work
    1. drigo1178's Avatar
      drigo1178 -
      so how does facetime/skype work?(for the jb'd folks that can do it over 3g?

      and the reterdedness with needing new cases and bumpers? really? LOL
    1. DRFP's Avatar
      DRFP -
      Quote Originally Posted by fmlouder View Post
      I bet facetime on 3G won't work
      Hmm I read JB already have been using it? So it works?
    1. fmlouder's Avatar
      fmlouder -
      Quote Originally Posted by drigo1178 View Post
      so how does facetime/skype work?(for the jb'd folks that can do it over 3g?

      and the reterdedness with needing new cases and bumpers? really? LOL
      It would on gsm but seems like you can't do it on CDMA cuzz of the problem with voice/data
    1. fmlouder's Avatar
      fmlouder -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Hmm I read JB already have been using it? So it works?
      Bs
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Yes
      Monthly
      From what I see Data and email is a charge then Texting is a charge and Hotspot a charge and then there is your minutes for talking.................

      450 minutes
      $39.99 monthly access
      $0.45 Per-Minute Rate
      After Allowance
      900 minutes
      $59.99 monthly access
      $0.40 Per-Minute Rate
      After Allowance
      5 Friends & Family numbers
      Unlimited
      $69.99 monthly access







      its already on the verizon website Cell Phones, Cell Phone Plans, 4G LTE network with the Best Cell Phone Service - Verizon Wireless

      That's exactly what I was saying. Ideally, this move will cause the basic iphone users upset with AT&T to hop over to Verizon leaving us behind to take advantage of the faster network with fewer users, jailbreaking apps like MyFi that will save all of us tons of money that the new VeriPhone users will be spending.

      I think once the general masses learn that you can't talk and use data at the same time and get over the "Look!! Verizon has the iPhone now!!!" shock, people will be disappointed until the new device is released on the LTE network, if that happens at all.

      EDIT: Let me be the first to coin the new phrase of the first half of 2011, VeriPHONE!!
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Hmm I read JB already have been using it? So it works?
      I think they're talking about Verizon's 3G. We CAN do it, via JB, but our network can handle data and voice simultaneously, which FaceTime requires.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by fmlouder View Post
      Bs
      BS on your BS... Look up 3G Unrestrictor... I use it so I don't get crimped by the 20mb limit in iTunes.. I pay for unlimited data, not limited-unlimited.
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by CynicalDriver View Post
      I think they're talking about Verizon's 3G. We CAN do it, via JB, but our network can handle data and voice simultaneously, which FaceTime requires.
      Not necessarily. When you initiate a Facetime call it switches it to Data and drops the phone part of it so Verizon can probably get away with it.


      EDIT: Looks like Verizon will be unveiling iPhone-specific data plans at a later date. Hmmm...
    1. ty22's Avatar
      ty22 -
      Quote Originally Posted by emoticonartist View Post
      Yikes - no data + voice simultaneously & no world capability?

      Sure their network my be better than AT&T's but Big Red always seemed more closed off than most places!
      I don't get the big deal. The global capability: I want my phone to work good at home, in my country, not somewhere else in another country I'll never go to. The voice+data: I don't have anyone that I talk to that is so uptight that I can't just hang and call them back in a few seconds. And I'm usually around wifi. And this issue will go away with an LTE iPhone.
    1. DRFP's Avatar
      DRFP -
      Quote Originally Posted by fmlouder View Post
      Bs
      Yes I meant on At&t not Verizon

      I agree it may not work

      This is probably why Apple took so long to release a CDMA version its limited ( Caveman )
    1. EskimoRuler's Avatar
      EskimoRuler -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      I think spreading the wealth will benefit AT&T customers the most by freeing up bandwidth. I think Verizon's network will see an initial bog down period with a year of catch up.
      im sure hoping that this happens, i love att and have had no problems with them.

      Im also a little surprised that apple would put the iphone on the network without the ability to do data and voice at the same time, i guess there will be no more commercials from apple about that, kinda seems like an inferior product to me.

      but overall just glad we can stop all these rumor posts now
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by ninthchamber99 View Post
      EDIT: Let me be the first to coin the new phrase of the first half of 2011, VeriPHONE!!
      I think I like ViPhone better, lol.
    1. DRFP's Avatar
      DRFP -
      Quote Originally Posted by ty22 View Post
      I don't get the big deal. The global capability: I want my phone to work good at home, in my country, not somewhere else in another country I'll never go to. The voice+data: I don't have anyone that I talk to that is so uptight that I can't just hang and call them back in a few seconds. And I'm usually around wifi. And this issue will go away with an LTE iPhone.
      Depends on what your job is then...... some of the customers travel outside the US every week.

      For those jumping the At&t ship please report back how wonderful (LOL) Verizon is to you!

      You know those 18 month upgrades for existing customers? LOL FOrget it with Verizon, once your hooked your theirs for 24! My daughter's BF has Verizon, customer noservice, noupgrades, phone breaks no service, no no no is what you hear a lot from them.....and yes they make sure you can hear that now!
    1. back9player's Avatar
      back9player -
      finally! ...no more verizon/iphone rumors/news from messany.
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