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  • iPhone Comes to Verizon, Finally


    Verizon chief operating officer Lowell McAdam announced today that a version of the iPhone 4 compatible with its network would be available for pre-order to existing customers beginning February 3, with general availability February 10. The culmination of more than two years of rumors came as almost an anticlimax, as virtually every media outlet was reporting the Verizon iPhone as fact before it was announced. "If the press writes about something long enough and hard enough, eventually it comes true," McAdam said, acknowledging the long wait for a second carrier in the United States. Apple COO Tim Cook, who joined McAdam on stage at New York's Lincoln Center, hailed the step, saying Apple was "incredibly pleased to give Verizon's customers the choice we've been waiting for."

    Perhaps most strikingly, Verizon will let customers tether up to 5 devices to their iPhones using their 3G Mobile Hotspot app which will be pre-installed. Verizon says they will charge $199 for a 16GB model and $299 for the 32GB, with a 2-year contract. They did, however, decline to answer questions about the cost of the data plans, saying that "pricing will be announced at a later date." This comes after days of speculation that Verizon would offer the same unlimited data plan they give to other smartphone customers. And the question of whether the iPhone 4 on Verizon would support simultaneous voice and data was answered by Dan Mead, president and CEO of Verizon Wireless, who said it was "the same as other CDMA devices." In other words, it won't.

    Also unanswered is whether the new phone also comes with an updated antenna assembly. This is a new model of iPhone 4, as changes to the device's internals were necessitated by the switch to a different network protocol. However, take a closer look at the photo above: see that black line on the upper-left-hand corner? Yeah. It's surprising that they would not brag about a Death Grip-free iPhone if they had one, though, so it may just be a design change forced by the CDMA radio. Verizon did repeatedly emphasize how prepared their network is for what is expected to be an onslaught of data-hungry iPhones. Dan Mead said that the carrier had been drive-testing with thousands of iPhones and "could not be more pleased" with the performance.

    McAdam was also mum about a CDMA version of the iPad, which was a longshot possibility for today's announcement. Also missing in action was any timeline for an LTE version of the iPhone, even though Verizon will complete rolling out its nationwide 4G network this year, with AT&T to follow next year. This does follow the generally conservative pattern Apple has historically shown: AT&T's 3G network was largely in place when the original iPhone was announced, but it only supported the slower EDGE standard until the iPhone 3G was released in 2008.

    Industry analysts generally predict sales of between nine million and 12 million Verizon iPhones in 2011, with Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster counting on Verizon to boost total iPhone sales by 5 percent or more, which would bring Apple an additional $5.9 billion in earnings this year.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: iPhone Comes to Verizon, Finally started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 203 Comments
    1. emoticonartist's Avatar
      emoticonartist -
      Yikes - no data + voice simultaneously & no world capability?

      Sure their network my be better than AT&T's but Big Red always seemed more closed off than most places!
    1. fmlouder's Avatar
      fmlouder -
      I bet facetime on 3G won't work
    1. drigo1178's Avatar
      drigo1178 -
      so how does facetime/skype work?(for the jb'd folks that can do it over 3g?

      and the reterdedness with needing new cases and bumpers? really? LOL
    1. fmlouder's Avatar
      fmlouder -
      Quote Originally Posted by drigo1178 View Post
      so how does facetime/skype work?(for the jb'd folks that can do it over 3g?

      and the reterdedness with needing new cases and bumpers? really? LOL
      It would on gsm but seems like you can't do it on CDMA cuzz of the problem with voice/data
    1. fmlouder's Avatar
      fmlouder -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Hmm I read JB already have been using it? So it works?
      Bs
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Yes
      Monthly
      From what I see Data and email is a charge then Texting is a charge and Hotspot a charge and then there is your minutes for talking.................

      450 minutes
      $39.99 monthly access
      $0.45 Per-Minute Rate
      After Allowance
      900 minutes
      $59.99 monthly access
      $0.40 Per-Minute Rate
      After Allowance
      5 Friends & Family numbers
      Unlimited
      $69.99 monthly access







      its already on the verizon website Cell Phones, Cell Phone Plans, 4G LTE network with the Best Cell Phone Service - Verizon Wireless

      That's exactly what I was saying. Ideally, this move will cause the basic iphone users upset with AT&T to hop over to Verizon leaving us behind to take advantage of the faster network with fewer users, jailbreaking apps like MyFi that will save all of us tons of money that the new VeriPhone users will be spending.

      I think once the general masses learn that you can't talk and use data at the same time and get over the "Look!! Verizon has the iPhone now!!!" shock, people will be disappointed until the new device is released on the LTE network, if that happens at all.

      EDIT: Let me be the first to coin the new phrase of the first half of 2011, VeriPHONE!!
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Hmm I read JB already have been using it? So it works?
      I think they're talking about Verizon's 3G. We CAN do it, via JB, but our network can handle data and voice simultaneously, which FaceTime requires.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by fmlouder View Post
      Bs
      BS on your BS... Look up 3G Unrestrictor... I use it so I don't get crimped by the 20mb limit in iTunes.. I pay for unlimited data, not limited-unlimited.
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by CynicalDriver View Post
      I think they're talking about Verizon's 3G. We CAN do it, via JB, but our network can handle data and voice simultaneously, which FaceTime requires.
      Not necessarily. When you initiate a Facetime call it switches it to Data and drops the phone part of it so Verizon can probably get away with it.


      EDIT: Looks like Verizon will be unveiling iPhone-specific data plans at a later date. Hmmm...
    1. ty22's Avatar
      ty22 -
      Quote Originally Posted by emoticonartist View Post
      Yikes - no data + voice simultaneously & no world capability?

      Sure their network my be better than AT&T's but Big Red always seemed more closed off than most places!
      I don't get the big deal. The global capability: I want my phone to work good at home, in my country, not somewhere else in another country I'll never go to. The voice+data: I don't have anyone that I talk to that is so uptight that I can't just hang and call them back in a few seconds. And I'm usually around wifi. And this issue will go away with an LTE iPhone.
    1. EskimoRuler's Avatar
      EskimoRuler -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      I think spreading the wealth will benefit AT&T customers the most by freeing up bandwidth. I think Verizon's network will see an initial bog down period with a year of catch up.
      im sure hoping that this happens, i love att and have had no problems with them.

      Im also a little surprised that apple would put the iphone on the network without the ability to do data and voice at the same time, i guess there will be no more commercials from apple about that, kinda seems like an inferior product to me.

      but overall just glad we can stop all these rumor posts now
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by ninthchamber99 View Post
      EDIT: Let me be the first to coin the new phrase of the first half of 2011, VeriPHONE!!
      I think I like ViPhone better, lol.
    1. back9player's Avatar
      back9player -
      finally! ...no more verizon/iphone rumors/news from messany.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by back9player View Post
      finally! ...no more verizon/iphone rumors/news from messany.
      Nope, now it will be Sprint..
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by GrandMstrBud View Post
      Well now it will be interesting to see if people can get this to work on Sprint.
      Sprint will not allow phones with foreign (non Sprint) ESN's on their network. YOU WILL NEED to get this phone for Sprint (so Sprint will have to officially support it) in order to get it working with Sprint.

      Quote Originally Posted by emoticonartist View Post
      Yikes - no data + voice simultaneously & no world capability?

      Sure their network my be better than AT&T's but Big Red always seemed more closed off than most places!
      The average cell American phone user doesn't take their phones off of US soil. For the vast majority of VZW customers this point is moot.
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      This is great because it will put pressure on Android OS adopters to make better phones. Every Android I've ever used has felt laggy and shabby compared to anything Apple. (I've said it 1,000x before: I love Apple hardware, I hate Apple the company)

      So, now that Android has some real competition on the largest network they'll really have to step up their game to compete. Let the real competition begin!
    1. Buckmaster's Avatar
      Buckmaster -
      In WV where I live, Verizon sucks. I have never had a problem with AT&T. I do a lot of traveling from coast to coast, with my iphone 4 My3G, I facetime with my family almost every day on 3g. I tether my laptop with MyWi, and everything works great.
    1. GrandMstrBud's Avatar
      GrandMstrBud -
      Seriously how many people talk on the phone and use the internet at the same time? I see a lot of people complaining about it but personally I have a GSM 3G phone and I can but I have never had to use both voice and data at the same time. And if you do use both then chances are there is WiFi available.
    1. ty22's Avatar
      ty22 -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Depends on what your job is then...... some of the customers travel outside the US every week.

      For those jumping the At&t ship please report back how wonderful (LOL) Verizon is to you!

      You know those 18 month upgrades for existing customers? LOL FOrget it with Verizon, once your hooked your theirs for 24!
      I realize some people travel that frequently. I just see a lot of ranting about it and think that this many people can't all be frequent travelers. I find it just another thing for them to brag about to Verizon-ers
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by fmlouder View Post
      It would on gsm but seems like you can't do it on CDMA cuzz of the problem with voice/data
      Why would they not work on CDMA? Neither facetime nor skype use voice. They both go over 3G/WIFI.