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  • iPhone Comes to Verizon, Finally


    Verizon chief operating officer Lowell McAdam announced today that a version of the iPhone 4 compatible with its network would be available for pre-order to existing customers beginning February 3, with general availability February 10. The culmination of more than two years of rumors came as almost an anticlimax, as virtually every media outlet was reporting the Verizon iPhone as fact before it was announced. "If the press writes about something long enough and hard enough, eventually it comes true," McAdam said, acknowledging the long wait for a second carrier in the United States. Apple COO Tim Cook, who joined McAdam on stage at New York's Lincoln Center, hailed the step, saying Apple was "incredibly pleased to give Verizon's customers the choice we've been waiting for."

    Perhaps most strikingly, Verizon will let customers tether up to 5 devices to their iPhones using their 3G Mobile Hotspot app which will be pre-installed. Verizon says they will charge $199 for a 16GB model and $299 for the 32GB, with a 2-year contract. They did, however, decline to answer questions about the cost of the data plans, saying that "pricing will be announced at a later date." This comes after days of speculation that Verizon would offer the same unlimited data plan they give to other smartphone customers. And the question of whether the iPhone 4 on Verizon would support simultaneous voice and data was answered by Dan Mead, president and CEO of Verizon Wireless, who said it was "the same as other CDMA devices." In other words, it won't.

    Also unanswered is whether the new phone also comes with an updated antenna assembly. This is a new model of iPhone 4, as changes to the device's internals were necessitated by the switch to a different network protocol. However, take a closer look at the photo above: see that black line on the upper-left-hand corner? Yeah. It's surprising that they would not brag about a Death Grip-free iPhone if they had one, though, so it may just be a design change forced by the CDMA radio. Verizon did repeatedly emphasize how prepared their network is for what is expected to be an onslaught of data-hungry iPhones. Dan Mead said that the carrier had been drive-testing with thousands of iPhones and "could not be more pleased" with the performance.

    McAdam was also mum about a CDMA version of the iPad, which was a longshot possibility for today's announcement. Also missing in action was any timeline for an LTE version of the iPhone, even though Verizon will complete rolling out its nationwide 4G network this year, with AT&T to follow next year. This does follow the generally conservative pattern Apple has historically shown: AT&T's 3G network was largely in place when the original iPhone was announced, but it only supported the slower EDGE standard until the iPhone 3G was released in 2008.

    Industry analysts generally predict sales of between nine million and 12 million Verizon iPhones in 2011, with Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster counting on Verizon to boost total iPhone sales by 5 percent or more, which would bring Apple an additional $5.9 billion in earnings this year.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: iPhone Comes to Verizon, Finally started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 203 Comments
    1. Stray's Avatar
      Stray -
      I wonder if FaceTime will still only be with wifi.
    1. neonsector's Avatar
      neonsector -
      Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky369 View Post
      Yeah; this is an Epic Fail... Verizon's network without LTE is a fail.

      They should have just waited a few more months and did a LTE version. They aren't going to steal sales away from At&t; it's the exact same thing; just missing some key features, example: data + voice at the same time. Which is the major downfall to the CDMA network in general.

      No one is going to want to switch to Verizon and pay more money for a lesser network.

      End of story
      end of your story and your opinion, which pretty much means ****.
    1. Bluemoldycheeze88's Avatar
      Bluemoldycheeze88 -
      Oh Boy Messany no More Verizon Rumors. Now we move on to Sprint?

      I wonder if this cdma iPhone can be flashed to metro pcs/cricket.
    1. brianiino's Avatar
      brianiino -
      It's funny how just a while back, Verizon had a commercial out about how the iPhone was just a missfit in the mobile world. Now look, they are all over iPhone. Stupid Verizon.
    1. mikeydooodie's Avatar
      mikeydooodie -
      Quote Originally Posted by brianiino View Post
      It's funny how just a while back, Verizon had a commercial out about how the iPhone was just a missfit in the mobile world. Now look, they are all over iPhone. Stupid Verizon.
      its like back in 6th grade when you would make fun/ridicule the girl who you had a crush on .. yeah thats what verizon did
    1. ty22's Avatar
      ty22 -
      Quote Originally Posted by brianiino View Post
      It's funny how just a while back, Verizon had a commercial out about how the iPhone was just a missfit in the mobile world. Now look, they are all over iPhone. Stupid Verizon.
      Actually, what happened in that commercial was, the iPhone was in the "misfit toys box" and they others wondered why it was. They complimented the iPhone, then they asked the iPhone why it would be a misfit, then out came AT&T's coverage map. Then they said, "Oh!" So, Verizon actually praised the iPhone there, but ragged only on AT&T.
    1. Brandonii's Avatar
      Brandonii -
      I'm looking, and I don't see that Verizon has an unlimited text plan do they? That could be one of the only things holding me back from upgrading from T-Mobile, being as I send 15,000 a month.
    1. matrixhunter's Avatar
      matrixhunter -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Right...........you owned an Android phone when?

      My son has all the games ( he has a Captivate ) His battery lasts longer then my 3GS...... way longer

      Hmm before you Dis another phone I think you should have current knowledge, Android has over 200,000 plus apps, true that Iphone has more, besides this thread was about IPHONE and Verizon not droid..............
      Used my friends android phone it sucked laggy os sometimes froze and really ur son can play infinity blade rage hd Aralon sword and shadow nova 2 modern combat black pegasus? And 10 way online mulitplayer on android since when did android have infinity blade on it lol?
    1. Brandonii's Avatar
      Brandonii -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      no its 5000 a month
      Wow. I guess I'll be waiting for that t-mobile iPhone then.
    1. Just Dummy's Avatar
      Just Dummy -
      I was surprised how easy AT&T caved and gave me the unlimited data and tethering today.
    1. Just Dummy's Avatar
      Just Dummy -
      Just got this in my email

    1. Antman217's Avatar
      Antman217 -
      I think people should hold off on getting it now though because a new iphone will coming in just a few months so I would just wait to see what the new iPhone brings before getting stuck with last generations device for two years. Although I'm already stuck with my iPhone 4 on AT&T for two years lol, but I got no complaints
    1. Just Dummy's Avatar
      Just Dummy -
      I was with Verizon over 10 years and came to at&t for the iPhone 4 on launch day. Verizon coverage was no better and the service both at stores and via phone was horrible. I got a nice discount through work so I stayed. If you can get unlimited data with at&t there is no reason to go there. I have had zero problems with the phone or service since June so I'm happy.
    1. jose060789's Avatar
      jose060789 -
      I just had to see it to believe it!
      Even so, I'm sticking with AT&T because I have had no problems with the service whatsoever. In my prospective, I like GSM way better better than CDMA since CDMA phones drain the battery more than GSM. Also, iPhone 4's on Verizon won't be able to call and use data at the same time which in my case sucks. So more bandwidth for those sticking with AT&T. So I'm happy on AT&T


      Sent from my iPhone 4 using ModMyi
    1. jwil736's Avatar
      jwil736 -
      Quote Originally Posted by piston597 View Post
      So I guess when buying or selling an iPhone now will be a bigger hassle to make sure they are getting the right ones...
      Not really seeing as all you have to ask is or say is "Verizon IPhone", "AT&T iPhone","sim card iPhone", "no sim card iPhone".

      My guess is Sprint will jump on board when the LTE iPhone comes out. Until then they will most likely not be interested.
    1. djkinetic's Avatar
      djkinetic -
      For those hoping to buy a Verizon iPhone for use on Sprint's network via unlocking, it won't happen. The reason is while you may be able to jailbreak the device and eventually unlock it, the phone needs to be activated in Sprint's system. The way that CDMA carriers do this is via a number called an ESN. Verizon is more lenient when it comes to using unlocked CDMA phone on its system however, Sprint is very strict and will not activate a Handset on its network unless the ESN of the handset is in their system from an approved device. The way it works u go into a store or call up CS u give them the ESN, they put the ESN into the database and it pulls up the programming instructions/codes. The ESN identifies what type of phone it is: make/model, the ESN will determine the codes needed to unlock the program screen and how to access it. Verizon, if i recall uses a universal code. While Sprint uses Handset specific. I used to work for Sprint programming phones for network use all day. That's why I know the process, unless its changed in the last couple yrs of course.

      Quote Originally Posted by jdm.accord View Post
      Nobody is talking about hacking or flashing. The deal is non-exclusive to Verizon. All that's mentioned is that Sprint can negotiate a deal with Apple and offer a CDMA iPhone of their own since Apple is already building one. No unlocking/flashing. Just walk into a Sprint store and buy one. How is that so hard to understand?

      The thing with the data/voice simultaneously is that current VZW customers won't know any difference. This would only be a problem for people jumping to VZW from a GSM network. Current CDMA customers don't know what they're missing so they'll be blissful in their ignorance.
      The reason for no simultaneous voice/data is because of the Revision of EV-DO that Verizon is using. Then revision simply does not allow it, there is EV-DV which solves the problem of no simultaneous voice/data on CDMA networks however, it was never implemented, and probable never will considering LTE is coming to verizon.
    1. GrandMstrBud's Avatar
      GrandMstrBud -
      Quote Originally Posted by djkinetic View Post
      For those hoping to buy a Verizon iPhone for use on Sprint's network via unlocking, it won't happen. The reason is while you may be able to jailbreak the device and eventually unlock it, the phone needs to be activated in Sprint's system. The way that CDMA carriers do this is via a number called an ESN. Verizon is more lenient when it comes to using unlocked CDMA phone on its system however, Sprint is very strict and will not activate a Handset on its network unless the ESN of the handset is in their system from an approved device. The way it works u go into a store or call up CS u give them the ESN, they put the ESN into the database and it pulls up the programming instructions/codes. The ESN identifies what type of phone it is: make/model, the ESN will determine the codes needed to unlock the program screen and how to access it. Verizon, if i recall uses a universal code. While Sprint uses Handset specific. I used to work for Sprint programming phones for network use all day. That's why I know the process, unless its changed in the last couple yrs of course.



      The reason for no simultaneous voice/data is because of the Revision of EV-DO that Verizon is using. Then revision simply does not allow it, there is EV-DV which solves the problem of no simultaneous voice/data on CDMA networks however, it was never implemented, and probable never will considering LTE is coming to verizon.
      I wonder if it will be possible on Metro PCS or Cricket?
    1. cpkirkley's Avatar
      cpkirkley -
      Quote Originally Posted by CynicalDriver View Post
      It's a phone first, not a TV. I don't need to watch Avatar on a tiny phone, I can watch it on BluRay with my HDTV for contrast beauty.

      Why does everyone expect these things to be greater than a dedicated device at anything?

      I don't know what you guys did to scratch your screens, but it has never been an issue for me... Do you put it in your pocket with change? Credit cards? Keys?

      I always have one pocket completely empty.. This way I have a place for my phone, an I have done this since LONG before the iPhone was even a glimmer in Jobs's eyes.
      Who said I was just talking about the screen? the plastic backing, along with the faux metal band, looked absolutely hideous after 6 months of non abusive, no cased usage. Now some of you are going to say "Why not get a case?". But much like the i4 - cases detract from the clean look of the device, and I wanted to maintain its slim profile.

      Also, I dont watch movies on my device. But I love looking at pictures. and the contrast/screen quality is MOST important when looking at static images. No one (especially me) is trying to say that a phone is supposed to be a perfect all in one. I only look at my images on my phone, everything is captured with my CL80, which I keep with me. I can send the pics to my phone via bluetooth from the camera itself, without a computer.

      That piece of non essential information aside, when you compare the i4 screen to the AMOLED on the Focus, or captivate for that matter - sure the pixel density is less, but the color saturation is MARKEDLY better on the samsungs. And not in the overly edited way either, much like the iphone's HDR setting (the worst joke played on consumers, ever). Apple thinks that adding bloom to photos is supposed to pass for true HDR. Fail.
    1. Just Dummy's Avatar
      Just Dummy -
      I think the pics on the iP4 look better non HDR.
    1. KartRacer's Avatar
      KartRacer -
      You guys can let Messany go now. He has no purpose on this site anymore.