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  • iPhone Comes to Verizon, Finally


    Verizon chief operating officer Lowell McAdam announced today that a version of the iPhone 4 compatible with its network would be available for pre-order to existing customers beginning February 3, with general availability February 10. The culmination of more than two years of rumors came as almost an anticlimax, as virtually every media outlet was reporting the Verizon iPhone as fact before it was announced. "If the press writes about something long enough and hard enough, eventually it comes true," McAdam said, acknowledging the long wait for a second carrier in the United States. Apple COO Tim Cook, who joined McAdam on stage at New York's Lincoln Center, hailed the step, saying Apple was "incredibly pleased to give Verizon's customers the choice we've been waiting for."

    Perhaps most strikingly, Verizon will let customers tether up to 5 devices to their iPhones using their 3G Mobile Hotspot app which will be pre-installed. Verizon says they will charge $199 for a 16GB model and $299 for the 32GB, with a 2-year contract. They did, however, decline to answer questions about the cost of the data plans, saying that "pricing will be announced at a later date." This comes after days of speculation that Verizon would offer the same unlimited data plan they give to other smartphone customers. And the question of whether the iPhone 4 on Verizon would support simultaneous voice and data was answered by Dan Mead, president and CEO of Verizon Wireless, who said it was "the same as other CDMA devices." In other words, it won't.

    Also unanswered is whether the new phone also comes with an updated antenna assembly. This is a new model of iPhone 4, as changes to the device's internals were necessitated by the switch to a different network protocol. However, take a closer look at the photo above: see that black line on the upper-left-hand corner? Yeah. It's surprising that they would not brag about a Death Grip-free iPhone if they had one, though, so it may just be a design change forced by the CDMA radio. Verizon did repeatedly emphasize how prepared their network is for what is expected to be an onslaught of data-hungry iPhones. Dan Mead said that the carrier had been drive-testing with thousands of iPhones and "could not be more pleased" with the performance.

    McAdam was also mum about a CDMA version of the iPad, which was a longshot possibility for today's announcement. Also missing in action was any timeline for an LTE version of the iPhone, even though Verizon will complete rolling out its nationwide 4G network this year, with AT&T to follow next year. This does follow the generally conservative pattern Apple has historically shown: AT&T's 3G network was largely in place when the original iPhone was announced, but it only supported the slower EDGE standard until the iPhone 3G was released in 2008.

    Industry analysts generally predict sales of between nine million and 12 million Verizon iPhones in 2011, with Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster counting on Verizon to boost total iPhone sales by 5 percent or more, which would bring Apple an additional $5.9 billion in earnings this year.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: iPhone Comes to Verizon, Finally started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 203 Comments
    1. Taz1981's Avatar
      Taz1981 -
      So with this new iphone you will be able to do the WIFI hot spot. So say you have the MBP on the WIFI and you get a phone call will you lose that WIFI?
    1. Squeaky369's Avatar
      Squeaky369 -
      Yeah; this is an Epic Fail... Verizon's network without LTE is a fail.

      They should have just waited a few more months and did a LTE version. They aren't going to steal sales away from At&t; it's the exact same thing; just missing some key features, example: data + voice at the same time. Which is the major downfall to the CDMA network in general.

      No one is going to want to switch to Verizon and pay more money for a lesser network.

      End of story
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Taz1981 View Post
      So with this new iphone you will be able to do the WIFI hot spot. So say you have the MBP on the WIFI and you get a phone call will you lose that WIFI?
      Yes.


      Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky369 View Post

      No one is going to want to switch to Verizon and pay more money for a lesser network.

      End of story
      The first iPhone didn't have 3G and was sold at full retail. It sold like nothing else. And said "lesser" network has more coverage than AT&T so for people who simply don't have the option of AT&T this is wonderful news.
    1. ty22's Avatar
      ty22 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Taz1981 View Post
      So with this new iphone you will be able to do the WIFI hot spot. So say you have the MBP on the WIFI and you get a phone call will you lose that WIFI?
      Yup.
    1. saunupe1911's Avatar
      saunupe1911 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Taz1981 View Post
      So with this new iphone you will be able to do the WIFI hot spot. So say you have the MBP on the WIFI and you get a phone call will you lose that WIFI?
      Theoretically, YES! I would imagine the mobile hotspot feature turns the phone app completely off. Plus, I have feeling the mobile hotspot feature isn't free. They never said it was free
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Don't be too dazzled by the wifi hotspot ability, because if you're using it, you can't make calls.

      The iPhone itself has been able to do this from the beginning, you just need a jailbreak app to make use of this ability. MyWi, which is highly praised, will allow this to work, though I have not experimented with it myself.

      Bottom line: GREAT! Now the whiners can go home! No more, "yeah but their network sucks," or "I won't go to AT&T," or "Verizon is faster" (complete fallacy.) It can actually be about phone vs phone, rather than phone vs network, like it's supposed to be when comparing smartphones.

      Maybe now we shall truly see which is the smartphone to rule them all, minus petty network arguments...

      Not to mention, the added competition for AT&T will FORCE them to adjust their service plans, because now iPhone users won't be stuck with AT&T. This last point is the biggest piece of joy coming from the VZ-iPhone release for me. Maybe we can get tethering with unlimited data for $60/mo now, without jailbreaking.
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by saunupe1911 View Post
      Ah! I haven't read Engadget's take on this. THX!
      Just read the article, interesting about the 4.2.5 FW.
    1. Just Dummy's Avatar
      Just Dummy -
      I just called and complained and got unlimited and tethered data from AT&T for the same deal as my 2GB plan. I think they know a mass exodus is coming.
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by saunupe1911 View Post
      Theoretically, YES! I would imagine the mobile hotspot feature turns the phone app completely off. Plus, I have feeling the mobile hotspot feature isn't free. They never said it was free
      It doesn't turn the phone off, it'll simply kill data if you get a call.
      It'll be $20 on top of data charges.
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      Answers.com - Are sprint phones compatible with verizon
      Doing a carrier unlock for a GSM phone is completely different than making one CDMA phone compatible on a different CDMA network. Completely different types of technology.
      That's not what he's saying. He's saying since the deal is not exclusive to Verizon CDMA, Sprint may try and get on board. Apple would then make the phone for Sprint. No hacking/flashing etc.
    1. joe97's Avatar
      joe97 -
      I'll stick with my JB'd GSM iPhone with MyWi. I don't like the idea of downgrading to an iPhone which I have to pay to tether to on any network. Heck, even if/when the Verizon iPhone 4 is JB'n and MyWi is ported over I still don't want to not be able to use voice and data simultaneously. That really is a bummer for me and may even be a deal breaker.
    1. saunupe1911's Avatar
      saunupe1911 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
      It doesn't turn the phone off, it'll simply kill data if you get a call.
      It'll be $20 on top of data charges.
      Wow, that's not good
    1. efi2nr's Avatar
      efi2nr -
      So is verizon going to allow FaceTime over 3G? I hope so. Just one more thing to hammer AT&T with
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by saunupe1911 View Post
      Wow, that's not good
      This is not news, this is simply how CDMA works and Verizon's plans cost. They've made no indication they're changing anything for the iPhone.
    1. dq13's Avatar
      dq13 -
      You can not unlock a verizon phone to work on sprint, this is not like GSM. CDMA carries have a special firmware so if you want to transfer a phone from verizon to sprint, you need to flash a specific carrier firmware that will change the ESN which is kinda like IMEI, so it is not legally possible and it is not like blackberry that you can clone a firmware from a sprint BB
    1. FlyingJoey's Avatar
      FlyingJoey -
      CDMA+EvDO Rev. A = Failure the most they'll see is like 1.3mb... Where's their Data & Talk at the same time?

      CDMA+LTE = Success... Oh well I guess they will have to wait another year.

      I'm seeing an average of 2.5megabits up and down on my iPhone 4.

      So they'll have better sound than us on GSM and a bigger network, but it will be slower.
    1. elite_jounin's Avatar
      elite_jounin -
      Lol so basically no voice and data at the same time?! = massive fail/epic fail. Not to mention they have last years phone...laughable!
    1. saunupe1911's Avatar
      saunupe1911 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
      This is not news, this is simply how CDMA works and Verizon's plans cost. They've made no indication they're changing anything for the iPhone.
      I've never been on Verizon or had a CDMA smart phone. My first smart phone was a Samsung Blackjack back when 3G was first introduced on AT&T. I'm never using a smart phone that can't simultaneously use voice and data. MyWi while talking to a client equals $$$ for me. Nuff said
    1. billchase2's Avatar
      billchase2 -
      Excellent. Now, everyone get off of my AT&T network and go to Verizon. ;-)
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      Quote Originally Posted by dq13 View Post
      You can not unlock a verizon phone to work on sprint, this is not like GSM. CDMA carries have a special firmware so if you want to transfer a phone from verizon to sprint, you need to flash a specific carrier firmware that will change the ESN which is kinda like IMEI, so it is not legally possible and it is not like blackberry that you can clone a firmware from a sprint BB
      Nobody is talking about hacking or flashing. The deal is non-exclusive to Verizon. All that's mentioned is that Sprint can negotiate a deal with Apple and offer a CDMA iPhone of their own since Apple is already building one. No unlocking/flashing. Just walk into a Sprint store and buy one. How is that so hard to understand?

      The thing with the data/voice simultaneously is that current VZW customers won't know any difference. This would only be a problem for people jumping to VZW from a GSM network. Current CDMA customers don't know what they're missing so they'll be blissful in their ignorance.