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  • FaceTime Still Missing on iPhone 4 in Parts of the Middle East



    Despite all the hype surrounding the iPhone 4's arrival in China, this weekend the iPhone 4 also debuted in parts of the Middle East. But a very important feature of the updated 4th generation Apple Smartphone was suspiciously absent. In both Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, iPhone 4 buyers were stunned to learn that FaceTime was not an available feature.

    Several initial reports over the previous 24 hours covered the missing attribute but failed to chronicle exactly why the service is presently unavailable. As it now stands, the believed reason for the omitted service are local restrictions on VoIP technology that effectively inhibit the video communications that define FaceTime. Interestingly enough, though, Middle Eastern versions of Apple's website had promoted the FaceTime feature until just days ago, a misleading situation that has angered many fresh buyers of the smartphone.

    But while thousands of new iPhone 4 owners were unaware of this situation when they first purchased their device this weekend, the lack of FaceTime chat capabilities may not remain a permanent issue. For now the video chat functionality is said to be "currently unavailable" as the operators and regulators in the region are supposedly working together as we speak to allow this functionality sooner rather than later.

    PC World
    This article was originally published in forum thread: FaceTime Still Missing on iPhone 4 in Parts of the Middle East started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 43 Comments
    1. whereswaldo's Avatar
      whereswaldo -
      Quote Originally Posted by brbortscheller View Post
      I'm sure Apple is just Racist and wants them to be angry just to have satisfaction.

      I'm sure your crazy
    1. Evilsaint's Avatar
      Evilsaint -
      It's probably due to their dislike on all voip services and their control on the Internet. Funny how it works on my Brit iPhone and not the one I bought yesterday :s
    1. SiFO's Avatar
      SiFO -
      Quote Originally Posted by Raptors View Post
      Funny...
      no
    1. Jimmy2timez's Avatar
      Jimmy2timez -
      Quote Originally Posted by zozodouce View Post
      that's what happened when gourvemment & religion are mix together .
      Yes i AM BEING IRONIC.
    1. Silvio6's Avatar
      Silvio6 -
      Wait, facetime is only available thru wifi, it is Never available on 3G anywhere in the world...
    1. ndproductions's Avatar
      ndproductions -
      Quote Originally Posted by dclpz1 View Post
      Just like the free bumpers... apple could issue free veils so that women's faces don't show and while we're at it let's just change the name to Eyetime... Lol
      Do you know how RACIST that is??? sorry but before you start blabbering IGNORANT nonsense try and educate yourself about all the area of the middle east, and not just focus on the Racist Stereotyped stupidity!

      Or hold on, maybe you, and others like you that has been making such comments don't even have the brain capacity to get educated!

      Sorry ModMyI, but such offensive comments are just NOT AT ALL acceptable!

      Quote Originally Posted by Reket View Post
      Im deployed in the middle east and the cellular/internet connection out here is complete garabge. The gov't controls everything you do. If Im skyping with friends/family back home ill get disconnected like 4 times throughout my vid chat. Pretty rediculous! For that reason blackberry's got banned bc they're encryption was too solid. Dont really see em allowing facetime!
      Buddy, the cellular network where you are at might be "Garbage" as you mentioned, though lets just be on the record that this is not the case ALL over the middle east, not to forget having some of the biggest Network Providers in the world are actually running out of the ME area.

      As for monitoring, again, this is not the case all over, UAE had that issue, but then again the ME is NOT just the UAE.

      I cannot believe how some people can be just so ignorant about such matters, and bluntly comment without actually knowing what they are talking about.

      Sorry pal, I do not mean to have it personal about your comment or even towards you personally, though in general, some of the notes which have been just dumped on this Thread has been just very offensive and ridiculous.
    1. tjb5099's Avatar
      tjb5099 -
      Thats what happens when you live in a country where your women aren't even allowed to go out in public with out hiding their face.

      `Tim
    1. BaileyMoto's Avatar
      BaileyMoto -
      Bummer. Think of how excited insurgents would be if they could see the face on the suicide bomber as they press the "go button".

      Ok, bad joke....
    1. XenoSaber's Avatar
      XenoSaber -
      Quote Originally Posted by ndproductions View Post
      Do you know how RACIST that is??? sorry but before you start blabbering IGNORANT nonsense try and educate yourself about all the area of the middle east, and not just focus on the Racist Stereotyped stupidity!

      Or hold on, maybe you, and others like you that has been making such comments don't even have the brain capacity to get educated!

      Sorry ModMyI, but such offensive comments are just NOT AT ALL acceptable!

      Buddy, the cellular network where you are at might be "Garbage" as you mentioned, though lets just be on the record that this is not the case ALL over the middle east, not to forget having some of the biggest Network Providers in the world are actually running out of the ME area.

      As for monitoring, again, this is not the case all over, UAE had that issue, but then again the ME is NOT just the UAE.

      I cannot believe how some people can be just so ignorant about such matters, and bluntly comment without actually knowing what they are talking about.

      Sorry pal, I do not mean to have it personal about your comment or even towards you personally, though in general, some of the notes which have been just dumped on this Thread has been just very offensive and ridiculous.
      "Do you know how RACIST that is???"

      Actually it's not. That is one consideration of allowing facetime over there. And it is a common practice. It's not racist to comment about an accepted and common activity.

      "As for monitoring, again, this is not the case all over."

      If you believe that, you're a fool. there is surveillance every where in every country. The middle east is actually almost as tight as China.

      So, from what I can see you're just mad that someone generalized a little. I'll tell you what, you want to stop the racism and sarcasm and satire. Rise up against the psychos that are terrorizing the rest of the world and start playing nice with the rest of the world and it might stop.
    1. Captinsmooth's Avatar
      Captinsmooth -
      Quote Originally Posted by Flybeast0408 View Post
      Lmao and I thought that had died over and correction " trying to give you a FREE bumper to fix it...
      Not true at first they want 30$ for them. Only after massive media pressure did they decide to give them away.
    1. ndproductions's Avatar
      ndproductions -
      Quote Originally Posted by XenoSaber View Post
      "Do you know how RACIST that is???"

      Actually it's not. That is one consideration of allowing facetime over there. And it is a common practice. It's not racist to comment about an accepted and common activity.

      "As for monitoring, again, this is not the case all over."

      If you believe that, you're a fool. there is surveillance every where in every country. The middle east is actually almost as tight as China.

      So, from what I can see you're just mad that someone generalized a little. I'll tell you what, you want to stop the racism and sarcasm and satire. Rise up against the psychos that are terrorizing the rest of the world and start playing nice with the rest of the world and it might stop.
      The remarks which were made are not at all acceptable come on, such generalisation makes it as if all the Middle East forces women to be covered! You said it is a common practice, can you please show me solid information on where it says that that "all" the middle east has that?

      No my friend I did not say that monitoring is not present, heck I live in a country where such a thing is a standard, but I meant and as a clarification, I did not say the monitoring is not present, but baring of services such as BBM or FaceTime is not present in all countries in the ME region!

      I second agree on the stopping of terrorism, yes of-course that is something out of the question!!! But the point and whole subject did not have to do with the terrorism issue or even the relevance of this to that, it was about the comments stated that the Whole of the ME region has such discrimination against women and for that FaceTime was not present when the IP4 was launched!!
    1. Captinsmooth's Avatar
      Captinsmooth -
      Wow this got way off topic. Honestly people, this is the Internet, the great equalizer, no one knows anything about you unless you let them. So lets not get into BS like this on a Iphone forum of all places. If ignorant comments are made on the Internet then you should automatically assume at least one of three things. It's a immature child, it's a troll, or it's a dumb redneck. You will certainly not change their opinions on this forum, if anything you will just fuel them. Always remember, you can't fix stupid...
    1. ndproductions's Avatar
      ndproductions -
      Quote Originally Posted by Captinsmooth View Post
      Wow this got way off topic. Honestly people, this is the Internet, the great equalizer, no one knows anything about you unless you let them. So lets not get into BS like this on a Iphone forum of all places. If ignorant comments are made on the Internet then you should automatically assume at least one of three things. It's a immature child, it's a troll, or it's a dumb redneck. You will certainly not change their opinions on this forum, if anything you will just fuel them. Always remember, you can't fix stupid...
      Very well said, & honestly I do appreciate that comment greatly:-)
    1. 2006yamahaR6's Avatar
      2006yamahaR6 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Captinsmooth View Post
      Well thats kind of a shady thing for apple to do, I am surprised that apple would do that. It's like selling a phone that you know has reception issues and then trying to sell you a bumper to fix it....Oh wait.


      HAHAHAHAHAHA ..... I'm really annoyed how Nazi-esque apple is becoming - I had a lot of respect for them initially for the revolutionary products but now they're really not doing anything special for ex. - the iphone 4 really doesnt have anything "new" per se in it - all the technology is atleast a year if not more older, its just in a pretty package

      sent from my iPhone 4
    1. daytonaviolet's Avatar
      daytonaviolet -
      kinda reminds me of the lack of MMS on the 3G iphones initially while the rest of the world had it.
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      Stop all the rude comments now.

      This is not about races or culture this is just about a feature that is missing. Stop bringing culture or race into this discussion in an insulting/misunderstanding manor.

      This may just be a pause due to a government issue. Wifi is not allowed in all countries either for cell devices. They have to be cleared. This may be just one of those hurdles.

      If anything bring legitimate discussion to the thread and not racial/cultural differences.

      MMi has a very wide member base that spans all over the world.
    1. eaglesteve's Avatar
      eaglesteve -
      I read somewhere that it is the limitation placed by Telco which prevents the Facetime but don't quite understand that. I thought as long as you have internet connection, Facetime could work.

      I think in any county there are divergent views on any issue, and what gets iimpoemented depends on who has the upper hand on that particular issues. Perhaps at this point in time, the group that are more conservative on the issue of covering up women's face gets their way on Facetime. Just a guess.


      Quote Originally Posted by zozodouce; View Post
      that's what happened when gourvemment & religion are mix together .
      Yet some people want Dalai Lama to rule 1/3 of China.
    1. krizz2per's Avatar
      krizz2per -
      i just called my friend in dubai through facetime...no problem encountered..

      ..btw i'm here in the philippines..^_^
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      Quote Originally Posted by krizz2per View Post
      i just called my friend in dubai through facetime...no problem encountered..

      ..btw i'm here in the philippines..^_^
      Has your friend updated since he bought it? That seems to be where the problem is. If they update away from the stock firmware it came with it takes it away. If they set their region to the US then it comes back.
    1. ABU DHABI's Avatar
      ABU DHABI -
      topless1967stang , dclpz1 and others with lack of knowledge :

      Seems you are totally unaware of where technology has reached prior Face Time and apple and seems
      ""you guys are the only “GOATS” among us where we can’t even have you as a background "" Thats qouted with some editing from what you wrote.

      Facts:
      • Nokia & others introduce video calling years back (Nokia N 95 or maybe before) Mobile network can handle such streaming. and FACE Time is only via wireless network , video calling can be done via 3G network
      • 3.5G network in UAE and neighbors can goes to broadband speed up to 21MB and handset are now at 7.2 MB and NOkia is 10 MB , new HTC will be 14MB. Apple Modem is 3.x MB ( if i recall correctlly)

      • Apple did not response formally why they’ve stopped FaceTime Option in the new update Firmware (4.1)

      And i reallly don't see why people connect Face Time to our religion and tradition which is not acceptable that you make fun of it. i'd prefere to discuss the issue "FaceTime" in a prof. way


      However,I think Apple they just start to think globally, their market was internally but they made a great device that’s why I own one though they lack some basic features.

      Note: if the iphone 4 is bought from UAE(Etisalate, Du) then updatethe frimware will take out the face time if device is from other place (e.g far east) update and it will still be there .

      AHMED