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  • Siri Port Is Now Legally Possible Thanks to iOS 5.0.1 Revision

    Have you given up on ever having Siri on your iPhone 4? Maybe you should reconsider...

    iOS 5.0.1 for iPhone 4S had a slight revision today (Build 9A406). It wasn't a full blown update, but it was something that seemed to tweak iOS 5.0.1 a bit. It comes with some good news. Earlier today, MuscleNerd Tweeted on Twitter that a Siri port is now possible legally thanks to the fact that the new revised iOS 5.0.1 is now open and no longer locked down as it was in the previous release of iOS 5.0.1. What this means is that the files necessary are now out in the open and hackers don't need to go through serious copyright problems digging in to use the core files. You can see MuscleNerd's Tweet(s) below:



    Since the Ramdisks are no longer encrypted, iOS hackers now have the legal ability to grab the Siri files from an iPhone 4S. This makes an iPhone 4 Siri port possible without breaking any laws and additionally, it will put a smile on the face of anyone eagerly awaiting any kind of future Siri port.

    iPhone 4, iPod touch 4G, iPhone 3GS and iPod touch 3G users have been eagerly waiting for a Siri port on their iOS 5 device. The article written about Siri for the iPhone 4 here on Modmyi is perhaps one of the most viewed articles of the year there's no doubt that a lot of people want it. There have been several attempts to bring Siri to the iPhone 4 and other older devices, but it just hasn't really worked out due to legal issues.

    We've been able to test out Siri wannabes such as H1Siri, Siri0us, and ESRA, however none of them have cut the cake well enough. H1Siri operates off of a non-trustworthy third party server, Siri0us is only Nuance dictation built into certain applications with annoying ads all over the place, and ESRA does a horrible job at detecting what you are saying. While the iPhone 4S has upgraded hardware that uses face distance technology to make Siri work as efficiently as possible and older iDevices do not, thanks to this open file system we might actually start seeing a legitimate Siri port sometime in the future with at least most of Siri's functionality.

    Are you excited that a Siri port is now legal thanks to the open file system? Share what you think in the comments.

    Sources: Cult of Mac
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Siri Port Is Now Legally Feasible Thanks to iOS 5.0.1 Revision started by Anthony Bouchard View original post
    Comments 48 Comments
    1. ToddD81's Avatar
      ToddD81 -

      Quote Originally Posted by Colby21 View Post
      So we should all update to 5.0.1 before apple patches it????
      +1 on this. I was wondering the same thing.
    1. Anthony Bouchard's Avatar
      Anthony Bouchard -
      Quote Originally Posted by starkall View Post
      I don't see why they are wasting so much time in old and outdated hardware! Makes no sense
      Probably because more than 70% of the iPhone market owns an iPhone 4 still.

      Quote Originally Posted by ToddD81 View Post


      +1 on this. I was wondering the same thing.
      It really wouldn't matter because no matter what the iPhone 5.0.1 files are always and will always be open.
    1. iYeow's Avatar
      iYeow -
      Looking forward to port my iphone 4 and 3gs as well, thanks.
    1. MrBucket101's Avatar
      MrBucket101 -
      Quote Originally Posted by MetallicaFan1991 View Post
      Hope it isn't a mess up by Apple such that they fix it with next update.
      AFAIK it doesn't matter if they encrypt the filesystem for the next update (5.1) the "hackers" could continue to reference 5.0.1 which was left wide open.

      you can't undo something like this =P
    1. DaLsim's Avatar
      DaLsim -
      A little hope, is better then none... Bring it on!!! Will test siri with jailbreak tweets to the fullest
    1. xxhorseriderxxx's Avatar
      xxhorseriderxxx -
      Quote Originally Posted by MetallicaFan1991 View Post
      Hope it isn't a mess up by Apple such that they fix it with next update.
      Luckily it's not something that can be patched, once you have the files, you're good.
    1. louietsang's Avatar
      louietsang -
      honestly i hope it'll come out for ip4... but i doubt i'd actually use it even if i had it. just something i'd like to know that it's there
    1. djrbx's Avatar
      djrbx -
      I can't wait. I honestly switched over to the dark side and bought a Galaxy SII Skyrocket just to change it up for me a little bit. My iPhone 4 has been waiting in the closet patiently awaiting for Siri and an untethered jailbreak since I switched. Hopefully the Devs release it before years end!
    1. mindblown's Avatar
      mindblown -
      just decrypted the filesystem with the key musclenerd posted
    1. badass1469's Avatar
      badass1469 -
      lol would be nice, then i can ebay my old iphone 4 for even more, since i already have the 4s ;]
    1. PoEtikly's Avatar
      PoEtikly -
      Quote Originally Posted by MetallicaFan1991 View Post
      Hope it isn't a mess up by Apple such that they fix it with next update.
      Save your 5.0.1 APTickets via iFaith v1.4 or the new version of Tiny Umbrella and then you can bypass any future revisions of 5.0.1 and later fw releases. Now that the untethered exploit is said to be compatible with 5.0 & 5.0.1 there's no worries about upgrading. You can probably bet your axx that once Apple finds out about this they'll be changing it.

      *edited due to a part of my comment making no sense, still very early, sorry.

      Quote Originally Posted by agray92024 View Post
      I can't wait but I think I will have my iPhone 5 before we get it on my iPhone 4.
      With it being legal at this moment I think we will see it very soon. There have already been ports that didn't work because of the above reasons (in article) so if they've been able to get that far without legal ability I believe the geniuses (dev teams) at work will have this cut for us rather quickly.
    1. alandalebe's Avatar
      alandalebe -
      hope to see siri incorporated with the untethered jailbreak
    1. sane478's Avatar
      sane478 -
      May be a dumb question but should I go ahead and update to 5.0.1 or can I stay on 5.0? Thanks again for answering my crazy question. Haha
    1. xclusiveiphone's Avatar
      xclusiveiphone -
      I still don't believe it's legal to port Siri even if it's open filesystem. You still using Apple codes and server (unless your rich and could share your server). Just because you have the access to the Siri files necessary to port it, doesn't mean it's ok to use them. Apple left the filesystem open as a bait so they could sue the crap out of anyone stupid enough to fall for it.

      Quote Originally Posted by sane478 View Post
      May be a dumb question but should I go ahead and update to 5.0.1 or can I stay on 5.0? Thanks again for answering my crazy question. Haha
      If your not having any problem with 5.0, then don't bother upgrading.
    1. jasonwalls's Avatar
      jasonwalls -
      Surely just because we have the files does not mean that we are legally entitled to use them. Isn't that what licensing is about? By this definition, because I have Office 2010 installed on my computer and a sufficient app to circumvent the activation process, means I'm legal? I don't think so.
    1. SilverWulfe's Avatar
      SilverWulfe -
      Quote Originally Posted by xclusiveiphone View Post
      I still don't believe it's legal to port Siri even if it's open filesystem. You still using Apple codes and server (unless your rich and could share your server). Just because you have the access to the Siri files necessary to port it, doesn't mean it's ok to use them. Apple left the filesystem open as a bait so they could sue the crap out of anyone stupid enough to fall for it.



      If your not having any problem with 5.0, then don't bother upgrading.
      . Just like a jailbreak itself homie. It's moral introspection. I think ur the kinda guy that hates very one that recycles because YOU don't THINK it's a good idea. I'd believe the devs before anything else is said. Apple unlocked the ability to obtain I dependent files. They may do it for future builds but as for now it's open. Enjoy what we might be able to obtain and keep.
    1. xclusiveiphone's Avatar
      xclusiveiphone -
      Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulfe View Post
      . Just like a jailbreak itself homie. It's moral introspection. I think ur the kinda guy that hates very one that recycles because YOU don't THINK it's a good idea. I'd believe the devs before anything else is said. Apple unlocked the ability to obtain I dependent files. They may do it for future builds but as for now it's open. Enjoy what we might be able to obtain and keep.
      Contrary to what you may believe, jailbreaking does not include using apple's existing code, it introduces new codes therefore not breaking any copyright infrigements. This port does the exact opposite. If were going to use Apple's server for this port then we need to trick it into believing it's a 4S. Doesn't that strike you as something ILLEGAL? Not only are we using Apple's Siri code but modifying them without authorization. Unless Apple explicitly says its ok to use and modify their code it's illegal! What the devs says and does isn't always moral or correct.
    1. daytonaviolet's Avatar
      daytonaviolet -
      great news. nice feature to have siri on ip4
    1. metaserph's Avatar
      metaserph -
      Siri needs 4S authentication, based on a unique device id which is refreshed periodically. Porting the files and having Siri still does not bypass this requirement for it to work. Get clarity.
    1. Anthony Bouchard's Avatar
      Anthony Bouchard -
      Quote Originally Posted by metaserph View Post
      Siri needs 4S authentication, based on a unique device id which is refreshed periodically. Porting the files and having Siri still does not bypass this requirement for it to work. Get clarity.
      There have been hacks around that. The problem is copyright and that is why a port hasn't been released.