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  • @comex To Wait Until 4.3 For Untether?


    A somewhat enigmatic email from @comex is raising speculation that the next untethered jailbreak may be held back for iOS 4.3. An Italian blogger contacted the guy behind Spirit and JailbreakMe to ask for a short and sweet answer to the question of whether the untether will be available for 4.2.1 or 4.3, and received the response that it "depends when 4.3 is out."

    The Dev-Team released the "backup plan" tethered jailbreak after it was clear that @comex was not going to be able to hit his Christmas target for the userland jailbreak he has been working on. Dubbed "jailbreak monte" (after the now-you-see-it, now-you-don't card trick), the current version of redsn0w, as well as the untethered version in beta, conserves exploits by relying on iOS 4.2 beta 3, which is only available to developers. This has led to a proliferation of pirated betas, which @comex says "is making me nervous." But with the only alternative being a userland jailbreak that Apple would fix in 4.3, @comex has apparently concluded that it makes more strategic sense to hold back on that for now, and wait for the next firmware release. The email sent to Andrea Cervone of iPhoneItalia supposedly had come from the email address @comex has publicized on his Twitter feed, though obviously that's easy to fake in a screenshot.

    Right now we're at a bit of an impasse, because there are a lot of people who want/need jailbreaks who don't have the $99 to pay for an iOS Developer license, or are ineligible for one because of their age and country of origin. As long as "monte" is the only jailbreak method out there, it's going to tempt those people to pirate 4.2b3, which as @chpwn notes "hurts the image of jailbreaking" by giving detractors an excuse to paint it as "illegal and illegitimate." Let's hope that the standoff ends quickly.

    Source: Redmond Pie; image via iPhoneItalia
    This article was originally published in forum thread: @comex To Wait Until 4.3 For Untether? started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 151 Comments
    1. crewxp's Avatar
      crewxp -
      Important Quick Question!!!

      Just bought a iphone4 from someone who has never jailbroken her device. She's on 4.2.1, will this untethered jailbreak work for people who haven't jailbroken previously and are 4.2.1?
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Yes the comex one should
    1. crewxp's Avatar
      crewxp -
      sweet thanks!
    1. DRFP's Avatar
      DRFP -
      Quote Originally Posted by jdm.accord View Post
      You didn't buy the phone with JB (sunroof in your argument). If you had and then they took it or altered it, you'd have a case. However, you bought it without JB so they're not taking anything away from you that you purchased.

      Plus, if you knew that dealer was gonna do something you didn't want to your car, you prolly wouldn't go to them (don't update FW) or you'd look for a different dealer (different handset).

      Bottom line with Apple is that they have agreements they have to maintain. They have agreements with devs to generate income for them (devs) and to promote their product through the AppStore. Cydia circumvents that and (arguably) hurts the AppStore. Thus Apple can't allow it to exist and claim to be honoring their dev agreements.

      .........
      I bought the phone with the ability to JB already, so yes its available at the time, if Apple puts out a new update that closes that ability and requires the App store apps to only work with the new update, then I loose the apps in the app store that update then do not work, loose the future ability to buy apps and loose the JB apps if I update to software

      its lose lose only winner is apple in that they closed JB, no matter what excuse they use

      I have been harmed if I bought apps and now cannot use them due to Apple's update......... either from the Apple App store or Cydia, doesn't matter its legal to have cydia apps and legal to have jaibreak, if I have been harmed then there's a lawsuit brewing plain and simple, these kind of suits are usually class action.

      Look people are suing over stupid petty stuff, messing with JB is not petty, it does cause many problems on these updates, does it not?

      Also my alarm did not go off after Jan 1st........ Apple is so busy going after stupid things like JB that they have yet to fix functionality like the Alarm function? Come on out of the Apple umbrella and see the light!
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      I have been harmed if I bought apps and now cannot use them due to Apple's update......... either from the Apple App store or Cydia, doesn't matter its legal to have cydia apps and legal to have jaibreak, if I have been harmed then there's a lawsuit brewing plain and simple, these kind of suits are usually class action.
      you have no lawsuit in this situation, get over your hurt feelings and move on.
    1. Jaywu's Avatar
      Jaywu -
      Quote Originally Posted by jdm.accord View Post
      You didn't buy the phone with JB (sunroof in your argument). If you had and then they took it or altered it, you'd have a case. However, you bought it without JB so they're not taking anything away from you that you purchased.

      Plus, if you knew that dealer was gonna do something you didn't want to your car, you prolly wouldn't go to them (don't update FW) or you'd look for a different dealer (different handset).

      Bottom line with Apple is that they have agreements they have to maintain. They have agreements with devs to generate income for them (devs) and to promote their product through the AppStore. Cydia circumvents that and (arguably) hurts the AppStore. Thus Apple can't allow it to exist and claim to be honoring their dev agreements.

      The other issue is the carrier agreements (AT&T in the U.S.). If Apple allows their phones to constantly be unlocked and used with T-Mobile, etc and does nothing about it, they're opening themselves up to potential breach of contract issues with carriers. Nevermind the fact that this argument is dependent on Cydia anyway so it ties back into the first point I made with respect to dev agreements.

      My iP4 is jailbroken and white (converted using Apple parts) so I'm clearly not someone Apple would be friendly towards lol. I don't agree with everything they do but I definitely can see where they're coming from.
      100%. In agreement, I too am jail broken. Lol!!
    1. vareniskis's Avatar
      vareniskis -
      I want jailbreaik!!! I want!!!!!!!!!!! Please, give me!!!
    1. The Amazing Atheist's Avatar
      The Amazing Atheist -
      Quote Originally Posted by Lombardo Joe View Post
      Looks like I might have to man up and go tethered...
      I'm tethered...I used to always think it was incredibly crappy but it's not too bad. I've been jb tetehred for almost two weeks and i have no problem with it so far.

      Quote Originally Posted by saunupe1911 View Post
      It will never end. There's too much money to be made or lost.

      My advice to @comex - don't release it until there's a significant update so that we all can update and jailbreak immediately.

      The only people that will be left out are new iPhone purchasers, which is probably far and few between this time of year.
      Or they could release it when its finished and we NOT update to 4.3. I mean really, what amazing new feature will 4.3 come out with? usually it's just bug fixes or some other stupid feature -hence the game center they released-.

      Personally, if I had the choice with my iTouch 4g, I would've stayed with just 4.0 that's all you really need. But mine came with 4.2.1.
    1. Lombardo Joe's Avatar
      Lombardo Joe -
      Quote Originally Posted by Th3_Amazing_Ath3ist View Post
      I'm tethered...I used to always think it was incredibly crappy but it's not too bad. I've been jb tetehred for almost two weeks and i have no problem with it so far.
      I didn't have to in the end. My internal earpiece took a dump and my replacement phone was running 4.1

      I've been jailbroken for 3 days. I can never go back. I feel like I had my first beer again.
    1. The Amazing Atheist's Avatar
      The Amazing Atheist -
      Quote Originally Posted by luvmytj View Post
      Does this spell the end of jailbreaks as we know it? Will the devs wait for the next Apple release, then again for the next? Will all the unlockers be forced to sign up with the ever-evil AT&T? Stay tuned to find out in the exciting conclusion of, As The Apple Turns, due out next week, um, yeah, next week-ish sounds good.
      Thanked your post for making me LOL
    1. DRFP's Avatar
      DRFP -
      Quote Originally Posted by luvmytj View Post
      Does this spell the end of jailbreaks as we know it? Will the devs wait for the next Apple release, then again for the next? Will all the unlockers be forced to sign up with the ever-evil AT&T? Stay tuned to find out in the exciting conclusion of, As The Apple Turns, due out next week, um, yeah, next week-ish sounds good.
      LOL
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