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  • @comex To Wait Until 4.3 For Untether?


    A somewhat enigmatic email from @comex is raising speculation that the next untethered jailbreak may be held back for iOS 4.3. An Italian blogger contacted the guy behind Spirit and JailbreakMe to ask for a short and sweet answer to the question of whether the untether will be available for 4.2.1 or 4.3, and received the response that it "depends when 4.3 is out."

    The Dev-Team released the "backup plan" tethered jailbreak after it was clear that @comex was not going to be able to hit his Christmas target for the userland jailbreak he has been working on. Dubbed "jailbreak monte" (after the now-you-see-it, now-you-don't card trick), the current version of redsn0w, as well as the untethered version in beta, conserves exploits by relying on iOS 4.2 beta 3, which is only available to developers. This has led to a proliferation of pirated betas, which @comex says "is making me nervous." But with the only alternative being a userland jailbreak that Apple would fix in 4.3, @comex has apparently concluded that it makes more strategic sense to hold back on that for now, and wait for the next firmware release. The email sent to Andrea Cervone of iPhoneItalia supposedly had come from the email address @comex has publicized on his Twitter feed, though obviously that's easy to fake in a screenshot.

    Right now we're at a bit of an impasse, because there are a lot of people who want/need jailbreaks who don't have the $99 to pay for an iOS Developer license, or are ineligible for one because of their age and country of origin. As long as "monte" is the only jailbreak method out there, it's going to tempt those people to pirate 4.2b3, which as @chpwn notes "hurts the image of jailbreaking" by giving detractors an excuse to paint it as "illegal and illegitimate." Let's hope that the standoff ends quickly.

    Source: Redmond Pie; image via iPhoneItalia
    This article was originally published in forum thread: @comex To Wait Until 4.3 For Untether? started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 142 Comments
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      Quote Originally Posted by Cokeman View Post
      That is the dumbest thing i've ever read. "Rooting" is for installing Roms (firmware) that was not intended to run on the device. No Android user ever had to "root" their phone to use a wallpaper, or change an sms tone. Compared to iOS, Android is "OPEN".
      You don't have to JB to change SMS tones or wallpaper on iOS either. Keep the fail coming.

      If a platform were truly open, you'd be allowed to install whatever you wanted to as far as ROMs go. The fact that most Droid users (myself included) need root for the ROMs they want, speaks volumes about how "open" Android is. I'll give you that its more open than iOS but its certainly not this glorious open platform it was hailed to be or that the nutswinging fanboys portray it as.

      Again, I think Android is a good OS for sure. Beats BB or Symbian or webOS easily. But as far as UI goes, its clearly not on the same tier as iOS. And we haven't even broached fragmentation yet. Google's minions can spin fragmentation all they want but its clearly still a major issue (see 2.1 on flagship galaxy S phones while 2.3 is now out for Nexus users).

      Quote Originally Posted by HPGUY View Post
      I have iphone 4 at 4.1 (8b117)What should I use to JB? Can I JB? Or should I update and wait for 4.3 JB that's been talked about maybe coming out in a while?

      Thanks
      Limera1n
    1. Nickaroni22's Avatar
      Nickaroni22 -
      "Good things come to those who wait"
    1. kuhndsn's Avatar
      kuhndsn -
      Quote Originally Posted by Cokeman View Post
      That is the dumbest thing i've ever read. "Rooting" is for installing Roms (firmware) that was not intended to run on the device. No Android user ever had to "root" their phone to use a wallpaper, or change an sms tone. Compared to iOS, Android is "OPEN".
      Really?!!!? Your post is a fail with regards to accuracy on both the Android and IOS. It's obvious Apple and you don't get along so to relieve some stress in your life stop trolling iPhone sites to post hate that sounds like polititions arguing on the publics behalf with no clue on the topic. People come here for news and help. Posting false facts because of sheer hate can and will confuse people.
    1. gthugballin's Avatar
      gthugballin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nickaroni22 View Post
      "Good things come to those who wait"
      "because she laid me"
      -blink 182
    1. GellBrake'rrrr's Avatar
      GellBrake'rrrr -
      If you have a droid device, and feel it's superior.... PLEASE keep those thoughts in the appropriate forums. Most people here don't own one, and that's not what everyone here is looking to read about.
      On another note. Comex has done WAYYYYYY TOOOO MUCH for the iOS community for anyone to complain about. Even if it's simply just the timing of release. And the last thing he should do is give an ETA, just for Geohotz to release prior.
    1. purplemonkeyspank's Avatar
      purplemonkeyspank -
      Quote Originally Posted by dq13 View Post
      I am no developer and have never been, but my iphone 4 says it has SHSH saved for 4.2b3?? or this "pirate" thing applies to the actual firmware that only devs have? I kinda got lost for a second
      Mine says that too! Weird...
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      Quote Originally Posted by GellBrake'rrrr View Post
      If you have a droid device, and feel it's superior.... PLEASE keep those thoughts in the appropriate forums. Most people here don't own one, and that's not what everyone here is looking to read about.
      On another note. Comex has done WAYYYYYY TOOOO MUCH for the iOS community for anyone to complain about. Even if it's simply just the timing of release. And the last thing he should do is give an ETA, just for Geohotz to release prior.
      +1
    1. xclusiveiphone's Avatar
      xclusiveiphone -
      4.2.1 don't have much to offer for those coming from 4.1 jbed like me. Best to wait until 4.3...
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zokunei View Post
      The dumbest thing I ever read was "Is the wind caused by the movement of tree branches? Every time the branches move the wind blows.".
      Lol! Funny shiz!

      Quote Originally Posted by MikePA View Post
      I thought the dev team was different than geohot, but this game they play with these cutesy, enigmatic answers to direct questions is disgusting. They are a bunch of self centered, ego driven a$$holes.
      They're also working hard on JB's that'll make your device a ton better than it is...for free. So there's no reason to say bad things about them

      Quote Originally Posted by jdm.accord View Post
      I have the Nexus S and it pales in comparison to the iP4. Its definitely a nice phone but its still no close to Apple's best. And if Android is so "open," why do you have have to root to install said ROMs? I love hear the fanboiz parroting the "open" crap yet have no idea what they're talking about.
      Completely agree. The Nexus S is a nice phone, but it doesn't come close to iPhone 4!
    1. rollerdyke44's Avatar
      rollerdyke44 -
      Fingers crossed for IOS 5.XX jailbreak :P :P :P
    1. vedavis's Avatar
      vedavis -
      GeoHot will save the day on 4.2.1...@comex will save the day later...

      Geohot Got Untethered iOS 4.2.1 Jailbreak, Another Surprise?
    1. ThinkTank's Avatar
      ThinkTank -
      Quote Originally Posted by vedavis View Post
      GeoHot will save the day on 4.2.1...@comex will save the day later...

      Geohot Got Untethered iOS 4.2.1 Jailbreak, Another Surprise?
      Like GeoGot said... why hold what you have when it won't work o nthe next one. Its amazing how that kid can take an iphone and in two days crack it. These so called Dev Team with their multitude of degrees which they claim GeoHot has none does better everytime.

      At this point I say GeoHot is the best iPhone Dev. He does it alone.
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      There is too much that can be read into his response. It must suck to have the weight of the world on your shoulders.
    1. coolguy742's Avatar
      coolguy742 -
      I think Comex should just wait for 4.3 as the rumors are its not too far off.
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      Quote Originally Posted by coolguy742 View Post
      I think Comex should just wait for 4.3 as the rumors are its not too far off.
      I have yet to hear any whisper of 4.3. What rumors do you speak of?
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      4.3 was said to be rumored alongside the release of that daily news subscription from NewsCorp and it would integrate app subscriptions. That was rumored way back in Novemeber though.
    1. motabavirus's Avatar
      motabavirus -
      It's because you have a 3Gs, if it has the old bootrom you can update now and it will be unteathered. Only new 3Gs and iPhone 4's, iPod4 and iPad with the new bootrom are teathered, google to find out how to determine what bootrom you have.
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      4.3 was said to be rumored alongside the release of that daily news subscription from NewsCorp and it would integrate app subscriptions. That was rumored way back in Novemeber though.
      Yeah but since that didn't happen, I hadn't heard anything about any update aside from the alarm issue. That clearly wouldn't be worthy of 4.3 in and of itself and since Apple claims that fix is immanent, that won't be 4.3.

      With beta releases of the firmware usually weeks ahead of the official release, it doesn't look like we'll be seeing 4.3 this month or next. So depending on when Comex's JB is ready should determine when he releases it (which IMO is exactly what he was saying in that tweet). If the JB isn't ready till the betas are being released than it make much more sense to wait.

      Way too early to start criticizing him for releasing/not releasing.
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      Man, I'm so glad I didn't update to 4.2.1.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Its not the DevTeam its Apple, the courts need to help us and tell Apple they cannot close the exploits for JB, in other words make the IOS ( which they make mandatory to run the Apps by making the App developers in the App store change the apps to require the newer IOS) open to the JB officially. Its time and its the right/ Legal thing to do, It's illegal to maintain the monopoly.

      To those who support Apple's Exclusive stance on IOS and the Hardware, then do you support
      WalMart?
      Microsoft?

      2 other companies that try to outsell and squash the competition

      You can't have it both ways its either you support open markets or not.

      Competition is good for all

      thats why I support Apple products and Microsoft products
      but I hate both in the operating to control the market, market should be left free and open.

      Oh, I shop at WalMart too....LOL

      We need to continue to work on change not to bash, Apple needs correction not to be run out of business.
      Just as WalMart and M$.

      We would not be better off without any of them, but it can be better.
      You need to learn what exactly exploits are and then you will understand why Apple has a duty to it's customers (roughly 85-90% don't jailbreak at all) to patch up the majority of these vulnerabilities without hesitation.