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  • @comex To Wait Until 4.3 For Untether?


    A somewhat enigmatic email from @comex is raising speculation that the next untethered jailbreak may be held back for iOS 4.3. An Italian blogger contacted the guy behind Spirit and JailbreakMe to ask for a short and sweet answer to the question of whether the untether will be available for 4.2.1 or 4.3, and received the response that it "depends when 4.3 is out."

    The Dev-Team released the "backup plan" tethered jailbreak after it was clear that @comex was not going to be able to hit his Christmas target for the userland jailbreak he has been working on. Dubbed "jailbreak monte" (after the now-you-see-it, now-you-don't card trick), the current version of redsn0w, as well as the untethered version in beta, conserves exploits by relying on iOS 4.2 beta 3, which is only available to developers. This has led to a proliferation of pirated betas, which @comex says "is making me nervous." But with the only alternative being a userland jailbreak that Apple would fix in 4.3, @comex has apparently concluded that it makes more strategic sense to hold back on that for now, and wait for the next firmware release. The email sent to Andrea Cervone of iPhoneItalia supposedly had come from the email address @comex has publicized on his Twitter feed, though obviously that's easy to fake in a screenshot.

    Right now we're at a bit of an impasse, because there are a lot of people who want/need jailbreaks who don't have the $99 to pay for an iOS Developer license, or are ineligible for one because of their age and country of origin. As long as "monte" is the only jailbreak method out there, it's going to tempt those people to pirate 4.2b3, which as @chpwn notes "hurts the image of jailbreaking" by giving detractors an excuse to paint it as "illegal and illegitimate." Let's hope that the standoff ends quickly.

    Source: Redmond Pie; image via iPhoneItalia
    This article was originally published in forum thread: @comex To Wait Until 4.3 For Untether? started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 142 Comments
    1. Carvensno's Avatar
      Carvensno -
      Quote Originally Posted by jdm.accord View Post
      I have the Nexus S and it pales in comparison to the iP4. Its definitely a nice phone but its still no close to Apple's best. And if Android is so "open," why do you have have to root to install said ROMs? I love hear the fanboiz parroting the "open" crap yet have no idea what they're talking about. :
      My understanding of the "rooting" is because of the carriers att,sprint,t-mobile and etc.... not because of Google. That's from my understanding from my friend that has a EVO 4G. The rooting isn't hard either and loading the roms. I have seen my friend do his EVO many times trying different roms and roms from other carriers too. pretty cool.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by Rokesomesmeefer View Post
      I don't see Comex saying that he is waiting for 4.3. What I do see is a response that is exactly what the requester asked for, "a short and direct answer". If Comex were to have elaborated on his response, it would probably have been something like "I'm aiming for 4.2.1, but if Apple happens to release 4.3 before I finish the untether, then I suppose it would make more sense to release an untether for 4.3 instead of 4.2.1."
      That's how I read it.
    1. coqui258's Avatar
      coqui258 -
      Is it me, or are we always "waiting for 4.xxx" to come out before a "jailbreak" is released? Here's what's been going on... we wait for 4.xx, it comes out, we get word that we have to wait for the bugs to kink out, and we wait, we wait, we wait...

      Meanwhile, Apple says it's coming out with 4.xx.1, and then we wait again, and again, and again...

      It's a circle. Last known good jailbreak was blackra1n. After that, nothing easy and good has been released.

      Sorry for my venting. I've been waiting very patiently for months.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by coqui258 View Post
      Is it me, or are we always "waiting for 4.xxx" to come out before a "jailbreak" is released? Here's what's been going on... we wait for 4.xx, it comes out, we get word that we have to wait for the bugs to kink out, and we wait, we wait, we wait...

      Meanwhile, Apple says it's coming out with 4.xx.1, and then we wait again, and again, and again...

      It's a circle. Last known good jailbreak was blackra1n. After that, nothing easy and good has been released.

      Sorry for my venting. I've been waiting very patiently for months.
      Wait what? What about the new jailbreakme.com? All you had to do was go to the site on your device and move a damn slider!
    1. jdm.accord's Avatar
      jdm.accord -
      Quote Originally Posted by Carvensno View Post
      My understanding of the "rooting" is because of the carriers att,sprint,t-mobile and etc.... not because of Google. That's from my understanding from my friend that has a EVO 4G. The rooting isn't hard either and loading the roms. I have seen my friend do his EVO many times trying different roms and roms from other carriers too. pretty cool.
      Jailbreaking is just as easy and in most cases easier (blackra1n, jailbreakme etc.). Ease of use has nothing to do with "openness."

      And your friend is ignorant if that's his understanding of it. It has nothing to do with carriers. You can buy an unlocked Nexus S (like mine) or Nexus One that has absolutely virgin Android and still need to root. Only time rooting has anything to do with the carriers is if you want to delete the bloatware 99% of Android devices come preloaded with (carrier specific in most cases).
    1. farfromovin's Avatar
      farfromovin -
      The only people waiting right now are current device holders who require untethered. Of those people, mac owning developers are beta testing the new jailbreak monte beta. AFAIK, the only thing needing to be fixed on that is Skype. Well, I suppose that's an issue because if a final release goes out, then MuscleNerd's fear of pirated developer firmware will be a reality. What a mess lol.
    1. No1Smitty's Avatar
      No1Smitty -
      I am still on the 4.01 jailbreakme. I was waiting for the 4.1 to be stable and just never ended up updating.
    1. Carvensno's Avatar
      Carvensno -
      Quote Originally Posted by jdm.accord View Post
      Jailbreaking is just as easy and in most cases easier (blackra1n, jailbreakme etc.). Ease of use has nothing to do with "openness."

      And your friend is ignorant if that's his understanding of it. It has nothing to do with carriers. You can buy an unlocked Nexus S (like mine) or Nexus One that has absolutely virgin Android and still need to root. Only time rooting has anything to do with the carriers is if you want to delete the bloatware 99% of Android devices come preloaded with (carrier specific in most cases).
      my point is with android phone's your not waiting for months to for someone to come out with a program to root your phone and you don't have Google patching there OS to keep people from rooting there phones either.
    1. coqui258's Avatar
      coqui258 -
      Yeah, you're right... it was pretty easy. But that was back in 4.0 days. We're at 4.2 now.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by coqui258 View Post
      Yeah, you're right... it was pretty easy. But that was back in 4.0 days. We're at 4.2 now.
      I guess the bright side is Boot-ROM exploits can't be broken by an iTunes update or something stupid, even if you do have to go into DFU mode to gain vulnerability.
    1. Cokeman's Avatar
      Cokeman -
      Quote Originally Posted by jdm.accord View Post
      I have the Nexus S and it pales in comparison to the iP4. Its definitely a nice phone but its still no close to Apple's best. And if Android is so "open," why do you have have to root to install said ROMs? I love hear the fanboiz parroting the "open" crap yet have no idea what they're talking about. :
      That is the dumbest thing i've ever read. "Rooting" is for installing Roms (firmware) that was not intended to run on the device. No Android user ever had to "root" their phone to use a wallpaper, or change an sms tone. Compared to iOS, Android is "OPEN".
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Quote Originally Posted by Cokeman View Post
      That is the dumbest thing i've ever read. "Rooting" is for installing Roms (firmware) that was not intended to run on the device. No Android user ever had to "root" their phone to use a wallpaper, or change an sms tone. Compared to iOS, Android is "OPEN".
      Rooting is not just for installing custom roms. You can root an android device just to have superuser status to do system tweaks that would otherwise not be allowed.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by Cokeman View Post
      That is the dumbest thing i've ever read. "Rooting" is for installing Roms (firmware) that was not intended to run on the device. No Android user ever had to "root" their phone to use a wallpaper, or change an sms tone. Compared to iOS, Android is "OPEN".
      The dumbest thing I ever read was "Is the wind caused by the movement of tree branches? Every time the branches move the wind blows.".
    1. xXDrizzyyXx's Avatar
      xXDrizzyyXx -
      Personally I'm quite content with 4.1
      4.2.1 doesn't have any major updates that interest me.


      Sent from my iPhone using ModMyi
    1. Vansmack's Avatar
      Vansmack -
      I am for the first time on the waiting list. i was still on 4.1 and happily content. then i cracked the phone. good news is i got the applestore to replace it, but instead of just replacing the glass they gave me a whole new phone! I was pretty surprised and wasnt about to argue. Now i have a new device with 4.2.1. Bummer. Yes I can do the tethered but it was giving me fits. cydia app and safari app wouldnt work, id get it working then install my must have apps from cydia, reboot, re-jb, install, reboot, re-jb, install, reboot, re-jb etc etc. so i said forget it and now patiently wait.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Wow, that's about as far from my interpretation of Comex's reply as possible. He'll release it when it's ready.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by mortopher View Post
      Wow, that's about as far from my interpretation of Comex's reply as possible. He'll release it when it's ready.
      +1
    1. HPGUY's Avatar
      HPGUY -
      I have iphone 4 at 4.1 (8b117)What should I use to JB? Can I JB? Or should I update and wait for 4.3 JB that's been talked about maybe coming out in a while?

      Thanks
    1. thevmax's Avatar
      thevmax -
      Not exactly thrilled about this, but it was what I predicted once we all heard that 4.3 was going to be released.
    1. Nest's Avatar
      Nest -
      RubyRa1n will release before comex's JB.
      And thats saying a lot.