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  • @comex To Wait Until 4.3 For Untether?


    A somewhat enigmatic email from @comex is raising speculation that the next untethered jailbreak may be held back for iOS 4.3. An Italian blogger contacted the guy behind Spirit and JailbreakMe to ask for a short and sweet answer to the question of whether the untether will be available for 4.2.1 or 4.3, and received the response that it "depends when 4.3 is out."

    The Dev-Team released the "backup plan" tethered jailbreak after it was clear that @comex was not going to be able to hit his Christmas target for the userland jailbreak he has been working on. Dubbed "jailbreak monte" (after the now-you-see-it, now-you-don't card trick), the current version of redsn0w, as well as the untethered version in beta, conserves exploits by relying on iOS 4.2 beta 3, which is only available to developers. This has led to a proliferation of pirated betas, which @comex says "is making me nervous." But with the only alternative being a userland jailbreak that Apple would fix in 4.3, @comex has apparently concluded that it makes more strategic sense to hold back on that for now, and wait for the next firmware release. The email sent to Andrea Cervone of iPhoneItalia supposedly had come from the email address @comex has publicized on his Twitter feed, though obviously that's easy to fake in a screenshot.

    Right now we're at a bit of an impasse, because there are a lot of people who want/need jailbreaks who don't have the $99 to pay for an iOS Developer license, or are ineligible for one because of their age and country of origin. As long as "monte" is the only jailbreak method out there, it's going to tempt those people to pirate 4.2b3, which as @chpwn notes "hurts the image of jailbreaking" by giving detractors an excuse to paint it as "illegal and illegitimate." Let's hope that the standoff ends quickly.

    Source: Redmond Pie; image via iPhoneItalia
    This article was originally published in forum thread: @comex To Wait Until 4.3 For Untether? started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 142 Comments
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by x98car View Post
      Use tiny umbrella: The Firmware Umbrella - TinyUmbrella

      See what SHSH it saves for your iPhone
      Ok, will do. Question, if TinyUmbrella comes back with the same SHSHs that are currently on Cydia, am I screwed for a possible untethered JB on 4.2?

      If so, no big deal. I am fine with my current phone the way it is. I really want to upgrade my iPad so I can print easily.
    1. Cowboy's Avatar
      Cowboy -
      Quote Originally Posted by ninthchamber99 View Post
      Ok, will do. Question, if TinyUmbrella comes back with the same SHSHs that are currently on Cydia, am I screwed for a possible untethered JB on 4.2?

      If so, no big deal. I am fine with my current phone the way it is. I really want to upgrade my iPad so I can print easily.
      Sad to say but yes.
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Quote Originally Posted by ninthchamber99 View Post
      Ok, will do. Question, if TinyUmbrella comes back with the same SHSHs that are currently on Cydia, am I screwed for a possible untethered JB on 4.2?

      If so, no big deal. I am fine with my current phone the way it is. I really want to upgrade my iPad so I can print easily.
      This method used should work with 4.1 SHSH too, it just need to be incorporated into redsnow to use that instead.
    1. whereswaldo's Avatar
      whereswaldo -
      Quote Originally Posted by x98car View Post
      At this point it seems like a good idea to me.
      this is assuming that there is a 4.3, there have been no betas and the only talkes I've heard of was months ago when MMi reported that it was coming in december, and that didn't happen. What even is there to add in 4.3?
    1. saunupe1911's Avatar
      saunupe1911 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nielsenius View Post
      The jailbreak devs really need to stop playing this game. It's understandable that you wouldn't want to release a JB right before a new firmware release, but we don't even know when 4.3 is coming. Apple has been known to play this by delaying releases or immediately releasing updates to a major release. The cat and mouse game needs to end.
      It will never end. There's too much money to be made or lost.

      My advice to @comex - don't release it until there's a significant update so that we all can update and jailbreak immediately.

      The only people that will be left out are new iPhone purchasers, which is probably far and few between this time of year.
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Quote Originally Posted by whereswaldo View Post
      this is assuming that there is a 4.3, there have been no betas and the only talkes I've heard of was months ago when MMi reported that it was coming in december, and that didn't happen. What even is there to add in 4.3?
      Maybe 4.2.2, who knows, except for Apple of course
    1. boxxa's Avatar
      boxxa -
      The amount of drama in the jailbreak scene seems match that of a MTV reality show.
    1. EskimoRuler's Avatar
      EskimoRuler -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nielsenius View Post
      The jailbreak devs really need to stop playing this game. It's understandable that you wouldn't want to release a JB right before a new firmware release, but we don't even know when 4.3 is coming. Apple has been known to play this by delaying releases or immediately releasing updates to a major release. The cat and mouse game needs to end.
      it needs to end but t never will. there maybe a possibility @comex knows something we dont, or its just taking longer than he though and by now he just thinking of waiting. Its just what needs to be done to save time
    1. mihajmis's Avatar
      mihajmis -
      How noble...

      ... ............ .... ... ................... ........

      In my country, we don't have Apple. So, having apple product is ... - already illegal?!? :-)))) well, it might be, because you have to change system files if you want to use- iPhone.
      If I plan to use iPhone in my country, I need to modify system and I really must "THINK DIFFERENT" - so, if I think like everybody, downloading 4.2b3 is illegal(?) but if I think different, UPLOADING for public use is illegal!


      I find that "illegal" file on any corner, torrent, megaupload, rapidshare... just name it...
      ... so the point is, blame those uploaders (if you have to really). Do not try to find some moral background in accusing people who can (might) "find stuff" and accusing them in advance :-))) I respect DEVs work but, sometime - some things really sounds lame... "it's going to tempt those people to pirate 4.2b3" ...

      Lets kill all junkies and spare dealers! That way is not logical.

      Devs are saving exploits and that is all story.

      Best regards

      ))
    1. saunupe1911's Avatar
      saunupe1911 -
      I believe the holidays slowed @comex down. The guy has to have a life.
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Westerman View Post
      Sad to say but yes.
      Quote Originally Posted by x98car View Post
      This method used should work with 4.1 SHSH too, it just need to be incorporated into redsnow to use that instead.
      Which one is true? LOL!! Again, it appears my phone is SHSH'ed up to 4.1 and my pad is up to 4.2B3, which for me the pad is more important than the phone at this point. 4.2 does not offer anything blockbuster that 4.1 does not, minus printing but I would never print from my phone.

      EDIT: Just ran TinyUmberlla, and I do have 4.2B3 saved so I'm good. But, still an interesting question for the masses.
    1. JLick's Avatar
      JLick -
      Procrastinating \o

      Pft, haven't even heard of 4.3 yet we will have to wait some more? Lmao, this is truly great /sarcasm

      Anyone think that I could just give George like $20 and he'll hop on the ball and gimme quick untethered ye?
    1. Rokesomesmeefer's Avatar
      Rokesomesmeefer -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nielsenius View Post
      The jailbreak devs really need to stop playing this game. It's understandable that you wouldn't want to release a JB right before a new firmware release, but we don't even know when 4.3 is coming. Apple has been known to play this by delaying releases or immediately releasing updates to a major release. The cat and mouse game needs to end.
      See, responses like this one are exactly why MMi Staff Writers need to stop propagating crap "stories" with sensationalist headlines.

      I don't see Comex saying that he is waiting for 4.3. What I do see is a response that is exactly what the requester asked for, "a short and direct answer". If Comex were to have elaborated on his response, it would probably have been something like "I'm aiming for 4.2.1, but if Apple happens to release 4.3 before I finish the untether, then I suppose it would make more sense to release an untether for 4.3 instead of 4.2.1."

      This "story" is just crap copied from one iPhone "news" site to another. There is nothing to see here, please move along.
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Quote Originally Posted by ninthchamber99 View Post
      Which one is true? LOL!! Again, it appears my phone is SHSH'ed up to 4.1 and my pad is up to 4.2B3, which for me the pad is more important than the phone at this point. 4.2 does not offer anything blockbuster that 4.1 does not, minus printing but I would never print from my phone.

      EDIT: Just ran TinyUmberlla, and I do have 4.2B3 saved so I'm good. But, still an interesting question for the masses.
      You should have got 4.2 SHSH though right? The same method redsnow uses to untether using the 4.2b3 SHSH can be used with 4.1 SHSH. The dev team just hasnt instituted that yet since it is just a beta.
    1. Jay316's Avatar
      Jay316 -
      Don't care 4.2.1 is already jailbreakable, have they forgotten about the iPhone 4 unlock?
    1. ThinkTank's Avatar
      ThinkTank -
      How about we wait till 10.0? Bcos apple always has one waiting to go.
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by x98car View Post
      You should have got 4.2 SHSH though right? The same method redsnow uses to untether using the 4.2b3 SHSH can be used with 4.1 SHSH. The dev team just hasnt instituted that yet since it is just a beta.
      It did. I'm good. Thanks
    1. dlingm's Avatar
      dlingm -
      I got replacement Iphone4 last week due to water damage, this one came with 4.2.1 firmware. I did tethered jailbreak to test the beta but after running tiny umbrella only shows I have 4.2.1 saved and as I understand to test the beta need to have 4.2b3 SHSH blobs, I read somewhere apple stopped signing it, is this true? if so is there a way around to get 4.2b3 shsh blobs?
    1. onlinegamesnz's Avatar
      onlinegamesnz -
      Quote Originally Posted by x98car View Post
      At this point it seems like a good idea to me.
      Agreed. It wont be long.

      Does this mean when 4.3 is out a untethered jb will be avaliable immediately?
    1. Rokesomesmeefer's Avatar
      Rokesomesmeefer -
      Quote Originally Posted by dlingm View Post
      I got replacement Iphone4 last week due to water damage, this one came with 4.2.1 firmware. I did tethered jailbreak to test the beta but after running tiny umbrella only shows I have 4.2.1 saved and as I understand to test the beta need to have 4.2b3 SHSH blobs, I read somewhere apple stopped signing it, is this true? if so is there a way around to get 4.2b3 shsh blobs?
      Short answer: No.

      Long answer: No.