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  • "SHAtter" Will Jailbreak iPod Touch 4G, iPhone 4, and iPad


    That's right, you read that correctly. In the recent flurry of the iOS 4.1 release, there has been some great breakthroughs in regards to jailbreaking your iDevice. posixninja and pod2g have discovered the first exploit of the S5L8930 chip, aka, the A4, which allows the use of unsigned code execution in order to create a tethered jailbreak, which as far as current hardware released is concerned, a jailbreak for life. This particular chip is used in the iPad, iPhone 4, and iPod Touch 4G. This same vulnerability is the one that was discovered independently by geohot, who abandoned the community a few months ago. However, his name lives on through new jailbreaks today, including the Playstation 3.

    Respected members of the Dev Team, like MuscleNerd have also confirmed that this new exploit does indeed work on all of the currently available devices, and works with the newest iOS 4.1. He says on twitter, "That latest exploit from @pod2g confirmed to work beyond iPhone4...also on at least iPad and yesterday's iPod4G too ", which is a great confidence booster for the skeptical.

    One should note however, that not everything is publicly available yet. These guys are hard at work trying to get everything ready. So if your thinking to update to iOS 4.1 assuming there is a jailbreak, you should slow down, as things take time and need to be released properly. Remember, what they are talking about here is a Tethered jailbreak, but that doesn't mean an untethered one will follow suit, as this exploit is an initial starting point for all new untethered exploits to come as well. My guess would be that when a release does come around, it will include the ability to be untethered, otherwise it would be much more ideal to stay on iOS 4.0.1.

    Using this method means that Apple cannot fix this exploit without updating it's hardware first, just as they did with the iPhone 3GS bootrom exploit. So until they update the hardware, there is hope for all of us. Does this mean you should go out and buy your new iDevice before they fix this? It's not going to be any time soon that Apple will be doing hardware updates, so don't get too worried just yet.

    Keep your eyes peeled, as you can bet we will be posting any updates here at MMi. It's a good time in the jailbreaking universe



    Source: p0sixninja | pod2g | musclenerd | SHAtter - The iPhone Wiki | S5L8930 - The iPhone Wiki
    This article was originally published in forum thread: "SHAtter" Will Jailbreak Every iDevice including iPod Touch 4G, iPhone 4, and iPad started by nickhesson View original post
    Comments 434 Comments
    1. delizaza23's Avatar
      delizaza23 -
      Untethered please.
    1. kwickone's Avatar
      kwickone -
      Quote Originally Posted by raduga View Post
      re: why some people are very much bothered by a tethered JB, think they're pointless, and won't use one
      Because iPhone users are- rather more seriously affected. They don't just have a "dead iDevice" - they have a dead phone. They can't make phone calls. They have just become a leper or a social pariah.
      I agree totally, but it goes one step further for me (and I am sure others). My i4 is my business device as well (phone, email, calendar, contacts, etc). I simply cannot risk being without that functionality, not matter how remote it may be.
    1. CD65's Avatar
      CD65 -
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      Octember 32nd


      Best comment in this thread!
    1. ramicio's Avatar
      ramicio -
      Jesus everyone jumping all over me because I confused what tethered means in this little sect of the world. It would never be tethered if it was marked as being jailbroken for life. I would rather it be a jailbreak that I plug into my computer to do, once, and not go to a website. Just my personal preference. But it will probably end up being only for Mac.
    1. Trooper Sam's Avatar
      Trooper Sam -
      Quote Originally Posted by kayvong8 View Post
      Guys, excuse my ignorance, and by the way "we're not worthy, we're not worthy, we're not worthy" Thank you Dev's "game on!"

      yea that was 2 wayne's world references,

      My QUESTION is this. Does permanent jailbreak mean unlock too or no? Would a jailbreak for 4.1 automatically mean an unlock also??????????
      A permanent unlock I don't think is possible, at least in the same way as this permanent jailbreak exploit is.

      This exploit is hardware based. It can't be updated or changed except in later production runs. In that respect, it's permanent for everybody that has their A4 device now, and those that will get them in the near future. Apple MAY find the exploit and re-design it to eliminate the flaw, and then iDevices going forward would not have the exploit available.

      The baseband, on the other hand, is still able to be updated with new firmware, and each time a new baseband version comes along, and is installed on iPhones, the prior unlock is broken. So a permanent unlock exploit, while I suppose theoretically possible, from the tiny bit that I know, is unlikely.
    1. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
      LazyStarGazer -
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      it has been confirmed for all newer devices - not older.
      Thanks confucious.
    1. TypeRBass's Avatar
      TypeRBass -
      I swear everytime there is a jailbreak thread in the news, there's always people that ask the dumbest questions ever. All the info could be in the first post and people would still ask stupid questions that were already answered.
    1. saunupe1911's Avatar
      saunupe1911 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Varko View Post
      I just bought a 4th gen ipod touch , and coming from a iphone 3g... im just blown away... anyway , cant wait for the jailbreak .
      keep up the awesome work devs.
      You obviously haven't used an iPhone 4 before you bought the new Touch.
    1. floppy_joe's Avatar
      floppy_joe -
      Quote Originally Posted by kingchkn View Post
      So my sister just bought the new Touch and tried to call my iP4 via FaceTime and she got a message that I needed to upgrade to 4.1 before FaceTime will work!

      Now I am deciding do I upgrade an wait for the JB or stay JB until 4.1 Jb is available?
      It depends, is your sister hot?
    1. saunupe1911's Avatar
      saunupe1911 -
      Quote Originally Posted by TypeRBass View Post
      I swear everytime there is a jailbreak thread in the news, there's always people that ask the dumbest questions ever. All the info could be in the first post and people would still ask stupid questions that were already answered.
      Yeah, but most of the people that's asking those questions are new to jail-breaking and the jail-break community. The JailBreakMe method allowed a lot of new idevice owners to easily jail-break there devices. I feel sorry for those people who believe jail-breaking will continue to be that easy.

      Quote Originally Posted by floppy_joe View Post
      It depends, is your sister hot?


      I know you are joking but that was a screwed up comment.
    1. tom3k's Avatar
      tom3k -
      "This same vulnerability is the one that was discovered independently by geohot, who abandoned the community a few months ago. However, his name lives on through new jailbreaks today, including the Playstation 3."


      personally i feel "abandoned" is a poor choice of words.... children are abandoned by neglectful parents, bush abandoned katrina victims ya know. it just feels so harsh... he "walked away" or "retired" (hopefully like Jay-Z) or "stepped back from" these projects i feel does geohots's contributions to this community much more justice.

      imho

      GREAT FOR THIS NEW EXPLOIT THOUGH!!! SUPER NEAT


      EDIT!: i understand you didnt mean it that way...
    1. floppy_joe's Avatar
      floppy_joe -
      Yes it was demented and meant for shock value. Non uptight people who don't take life so seriously will admit it was funny. (in a dark humor kind of way) No disrespect to your family. I wish I had as good a relationship with my siblings as it seems he genuinely does
    1. neonsector's Avatar
      neonsector -
      Quote Originally Posted by Rounder View Post
      Motluck... The problem is that people ask questions without reading the thread first when the questions have already been answered. My comments were not aimed at anyone specifically, more or less aimed at the people who refuse to read 13 pages of this thread.

      Not only will reading all the posts make you learn, but it will also answer many questions that people may have. It's not up to us to always have to answer the same questions. Reading is learning.

      EDIT: The perfect example of this is the person who just posted above me...
      And TBH Rounder, we wouldnt have 14 pages of pointless spam if you people like your self didnt repeat the use the search button thing over and over again.
      Trust me, it doesnt promote you into the elite member status, it degrades you to an ******* that no one likes.
      These are forums, people ask questions, if you dont like move on and dont read it.
      Every single thread i see a couple new guys asking a questions that has been answered before and then 20 people like spamming the *DUDE!!! SEARCH!!!!!** **** over and over again filling up 20 pages.
    1. RobDog60's Avatar
      RobDog60 -
      Will I be able to JB with 4.1 AND it being an MC model?
    1. AUZambo's Avatar
      AUZambo -
      Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
      Tethered JB is only a (very) minor annoyance to me. I almost never reboot my device anyway. Do most people reboot often?



      I agree that the guy you responded to was acting like a self-entitled jerk, but this info you are passing on is not really accurate. The vast majority of past jailbreaks were, in fact, untethered. I think the problem here is most people's understanding of a tethered jailbreak. A "tethered jailbreak" is one that requires a "fresh" jailbreak via docking cable after every reboot of the device, not simply a one-time jailbreak that uses the docking cable to get done...
      Thank you. I can't believe it took 5 pages before someone clearly explained what "tethered" meant. I was thinking that JBs like redsn0w were tethered since I had to hardwire my phone to my Mac to execute the jailbreak.

      I can now see how a tethered JB would be annoying, but I just don't reboot that often.

      What would happen if you do reboot a phone JBed with a tethered JB? Would you just lose the JB?
    1. zamansimba's Avatar
      zamansimba -
      Dear Apple,

      I found a way to kill of these heathen jailbreakers

      Make a 'Silent Update' in the background when iTunes is launched and a new iOS version is detected. Download the ipsw in the background automatically, and when there is some idle time (eg when the user is making playlists or browsing App Store) just ninja the hell of the update into the iphone/ipod.

      When its finished just notify the user - "updated to latest gr8est iOS luls congratulations kthx"

      Hope this tactic works well on these immoral law-breakers

      -zamansimba-
    1. floppy_joe's Avatar
      floppy_joe -
      Bohica

      Bend over here it comes again. Zam u just calked out all the self righteous
    1. greek.guy's Avatar
      greek.guy -
      Quote Originally Posted by zamansimba View Post
      Dear Apple,

      I found a way to kill of these heathen jailbreakers

      Make a 'Silent Update' in the background when iTunes is launched and a new iOS version is detected. Download the ipsw in the background automatically, and when there is some idle time (eg when the user is making playlists or browsing App Store) just ninja the hell of the update into the iphone/ipod.

      When its finished just notify the user - "updated to latest gr8est iOS luls congratulations kthx"

      Hope this tactic works well on these immoral law-breakers

      -zamansimba-

    1. ramicio's Avatar
      ramicio -
      Quote Originally Posted by AUZambo View Post
      What would happen if you do reboot a phone JBed with a tethered JB? Would you just lose the JB?
      I think the phone won't boot and it will be in recovery until you find a computer and jail boot it.

      Quote Originally Posted by zamansimba View Post
      Hope this tactic works well on these immoral law-breakers
      Why are you here?
    1. kingchkn's Avatar
      kingchkn -
      Quote Originally Posted by floppy_joe View Post
      It depends, is your sister hot?
      No. It was more of a chance for my kids to see their cousins. And wow, why ask a question like that! Do you like down south where that crap is rampant?