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  • Microsoft: Our Phones Have Had Siri For a Year


    Craig Mundie of Microsoft says that the iPhone’s Siri personal assistant software isn’t new technology at all. According to him, Microsoft has had a similar system that has been available on the Windows Phone for over a year. Furthermore, he even went as far as saying that Apple marketed the feature to try and shift focus away from the iPhone 4S’s lack of new features.

    Microsoft’s Chief Research and Strategy Officer Craig Mundie in an interview last week with Forbes shared his opinion on Apple and the infamous personal assistant, Siri.He noted that the Windows Phone’s “TellMe” technology, which he claims is essentially the same thing, has been functional for over a year. During the interview he mentioned the following: "The Tellme facility's been in the Windows 7 phone for more than a year," Mundie said. "So I mean I just think people are infatuated with Apple announcing [Siri]."



    He continued to discuss that Microsoft could learn from Apple’s marketing tactics, despite feeling that the Cupertino giant had to focus on the voice technology due to the lack of new features found in the iPhone 4S. He mentioned the following regarding Apple’s marketing strategy: "In a sense, you know, many people were disappointed with [Apple's] newest phone because it wasn't a completely new thing, so the only thing they really had to hammer on was that feature," Mundie said. "Maybe we need to pick a feature and hammer on it harder."

    Google’s Vice President of Mobile, Andy Rubin also had a similar response regarding Siri. According to him: “Your phone is a tool for communicating. You shouldn’t be communicating with the phone; you should be communicating with somebody on the other side of the phone.” So both major competitors Google and Microsoft feel that Siri is not as important as people make it out to be. Their beliefs and statements have caused much commotion in the tech industry and more-so among consumers.

    As of right now, Microsoft has been dealing with a harsh transition from Windows Mobile to the current Windows Phone platform. The company is faced with many obstacles in moving from the old operating system, which targeted enterprise users, to a new consumer driven model. The company still has high hopes for the Windows Phone platform though as they seek to become a major player in the mobile market, noting the recent partnership with Nokia as a “huge” opportunity in making the platform successful.

    As a competitor, Microsoft seems to be holding their head up too high here and not admitting where they were or are still wrong. Steve Ballmer previously laughed off the original iPhone as being overpriced and not appealing to business customers because it doesn’t have a keyboard. As well all know, the iPhone went on to become the world’s most popular handset. Microsoft made a big mistake back then and seems to be making another now. Siri functionality is not existent in Windows Phone software - just because your phones and your platform can recognize a limited set of voice commands doesn’t mean it is on par with the Siri technology. The Siri co-founder, Norman Winarsky previously said Siri was going to be a “world-changing event” and he seems to be right about that.

    What’s your take on the situation? Share your thoughts below!

    Source: Forbes
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Microsoft: Our Phones Have Had Siri for A Year started by Akshay Masand View original post
    Comments 52 Comments
    1. Painkiller006's Avatar
      Painkiller006 -
      Meh, Android have also had the same thing for a long time now.
    1. Colby21's Avatar
      Colby21 -
      Sorry, but Mundie is right. Everyone was disappointed in apples lack of new features on the 4S. I mean, an upgrades this or that is great. But they did focus on something that Microsoft and android has had. And whether you can call Siri a game changer or not has yet to be seen. I mean, the thing is still in beta and it barely does anything useful. Overall, I agree with Mundie.
    1. frjuan's Avatar
      frjuan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller006 View Post
      Meh, Android have also had the same thing for a long time now.
      Haters gonna hate...
    1. TooSlo's Avatar
      TooSlo -
      Quote Originally Posted by frjuan View Post
      Haters gonna hate...
      So how's that awesome new pull-down notification center that Apple came up wi.....er stole from Android and marketed as some awesome new mobile feature?

      The WP7 voice search works great, which is what confuses me so much. I also have to laugh a bit about Siri being in beta. Still stealing ideas from Google by releasing a beta product? :P
    1. bluemotion's Avatar
      bluemotion -
      funfact: everybody knows siri but no one knows their 1 year old version of it. even though i believe its true. but what does it say about their pr strategy
    1. klouud's Avatar
      klouud -
      The truth is, while there has been "voice commands" available on phones for a few years, there has not been anything available that is quite as advanced as Siri - given, Siri is still in Beta and the servers go down about once every few weeks.The first thing that comes to mind every time I hear any of the WinPhones reps talk is, and I quote: "whine whine whine... Whiney Whine Whine. Our platform is no where near as good as Android and/or iOS... false claims, false claims, lies lies lies... and slander slander slander."Yep, that about sums it up. They need to knock off all of the smut talk and actually do something. Pointing fingers and slinging insults does not win back market share. What complete and utter crybaby losers! Just put up or shut up Microsoft! And given their track record, they probably are not going to put up or shut up.And the bit about focusing on Siri to take attention away from the lack of "new features". There are only so many things a phone, laptop, tablet, and/or desktop can do. What do they expect? -- a can opener enable iPhone?What awesome features do the WinPhones have that the iPhone 4S doesn't? Huh?I rest my case.tim/klouud
    1. luketinsley's Avatar
      luketinsley -
      Quote Originally Posted by TooSlo View Post
      So how's that awesome new pull-down notification center that Apple came up wi.....er stole from Android and marketed as some awesome new mobile feature?

      The WP7 voice search works great, which is what confuses me so much. I also have to laugh a bit about Siri being in beta. Still stealing ideas from Google by releasing a beta product? :P
      Funny that it's not ok for Apple to use an idea, but it's ok for Android to base their whole OS off Apples....
    1. exNavy's Avatar
      exNavy -
      And people still don't want your crappy phone.
    1. Truckerbear's Avatar
      Truckerbear -
      Tellme on a Windows phone and Voice Commands on an android device are a freaking joke. I just tried all three devices right here in front of me the only device that understood what I wanted was Siri on iPhone 4s. I wanted to call home. How simple. Let them keep denying Apple there kudo's and APPL stock will continue to soak and make the competition looks as silly as there inferior products stated above.
    1. tariman21's Avatar
      tariman21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by luketinsley View Post
      Funny that it's not ok for Apple to use an idea, but it's ok for Android to base their whole OS off Apples....
      Android:
      "Android, Inc. was founded in Palo Alto, California, United States in October, 2003 by Andy Rubin...to develop, in Rubin's words "...smarter mobile devices that are more aware of its owner's location and preferences". Despite the obvious past accomplishments of the founders and early employees, Android Inc. operated secretly, revealing only that it was working on software for mobile phones."

      "Google purchased the initial developer of the software, Android Inc., in 2005."


      iOS:
      "The operating system was unveiled with the iPhone at the Macworld Conference & Expo on January 9, 2007, and released in June of that year."


      Get your facts straight before you comment, otherwise it makes you look like a dumbass, dumbass.
    1. syedsufyan's Avatar
      syedsufyan -
      Actually, the Windows Phone Tell Me is really advanced, almost like Siri.
    1. stevelucky's Avatar
      stevelucky -
      Quote Originally Posted by tariman21 View Post
      Android:
      "Android, Inc. was founded in Palo Alto, California, United States in October, 2003 by Andy Rubin...to develop, in Rubin's words "...smarter mobile devices that are more aware of its owner's location and preferences". Despite the obvious past accomplishments of the founders and early employees, Android Inc. operated secretly, revealing only that it was working on software for mobile phones."

      "Google purchased the initial developer of the software, Android Inc., in 2005."


      iOS:
      "The operating system was unveiled with the iPhone at the Macworld Conference & Expo on January 9, 2007, and released in June of that year."


      Get your facts straight before you comment, otherwise it makes you look like a dumbass, dumbass.

      So, you're comparing the founding of Android (in 2005) with the unveiling of the first iPhone OS in 2007? So, you think they developed the entire OS in 2007? Or 2006? How about 2005? I guarantee they were working on the iPhone before the founding of Android. So, before you start calling people a dumbass, I'd get YOUR facts straight before you comment. I hereby retract your initial dumbass proclamation and transfer it back to the originator. Dumbass.

      Edit: iPhone development actually began in 2005, as well (iPhone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). The same year Android was founded. So, the claim that iOS was ripping off android is baseless.
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Debating and disagreeing is fine. Insulting other members is not. Please do not do it.
    1. stevelucky's Avatar
      stevelucky -
      Edit again: I realized that Android was founded on 2003, not 2005 as I stated. I hereby take the dumbass title upon myself.
    1. Jackrainz's Avatar
      Jackrainz -
      Quote Originally Posted by TooSlo View Post
      So how's that awesome new pull-down notification center that Apple came up wi.....er stole from Android and marketed as some awesome new mobile feature?

      The WP7 voice search works great, which is what confuses me so much. I also have to laugh a bit about Siri being in beta. Still stealing ideas from Google by releasing a beta product? :P
      You make me laugh.
      Lets start with this: Google (Eric Schmidt) stole their idea for Android from Apple. Thats a fact.
      Don't believe it? use Google to search "Android before the iPhone" in images. Know what you'll find?
      You'll find an Android phone that looks like... err... a Blackberry? - you damn right. Because
      all, and I repeat, all Google can do is steal other companies ideas and call it "innovation".
      Google wouldn't know innovation if it mushroom- slapped em across the face. But the theft and blatant ripping off
      doesn't stop there, no, not by a longshot: Google is being sued by Oracle, and is going to get its *** handed to it in court.
      Why? heres the kicker: They blatantly stole Oracle's Java code and implemented it (the actual source code, what morons!)
      In - you guessed it - Android! And one more fun tidbit, fanboy, since Im having so much fun schoolin' ya:
      Google has to pay Microsoft 5 bucks (a lot of money, don't you try to shrug this off) on every Android device sold, because of -
      you guessed it - A copyright infringement Lawsuit settlement! And now they are looking towards a webOS guy (Matias Duarte) to save em.
      Ha! Wow Google! You guys are worse than Samsung!

      And WP7? Microsoft? Are you taking hallucinogens?
      Microsoft has been an utter failure in everything outside of PC's and the Xbox 360 since it entered the Millenium!
      If it weren't for its cash cows (Word, Excel, Powerpoint), MS would be up ****'s creek without arms, legs or a damn paddle.
      It even messed up on its own bread and butter - Vista, an operating system! How lazy and incompetent can you get??
      Hows the zune working out for ya? oh yeah, thats dead. How are tablets workin out for ya, it was you guys who originally thought of it,
      wasn't it? lets remember where MS got its start: Bill Gates, a guy who stole every piece of software he ever laid eyes on, from Dos to Windows.
      Where did he get the idea for windows? - From Apple, of course.

      And Apple are damned thieves too! Without Xerox PARC there would be no Mac OS.

      You see where Im getting at, fanboy?
      How completely uneducated and juvenile your comments are?
      Go read a book or ten, and get back at me. I can do this all day.
    1. rocketApe's Avatar
      rocketApe -
      Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller006 View Post
      Meh, Android have also had the same thing for a long time now.
      Yeah, but neither droid or windows are as intuitive. It's true, apple didn't invent the technology, they did what they do best = dust off existing technology, streamline it, polish it, then market the hell out of it.
    1. duromega's Avatar
      duromega -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      You make me laugh.
      Lets start with this: Google (Eric Schmidt) stole their idea for Android from Apple. Thats a fact.
      Don't believe it? use Google to search "Android before the iPhone" in images. Know what you'll find?
      You'll find an Android phone that looks like... err... a Blackberry? - you damn right. Because
      all, and I repeat, all Google can do is steal other companies ideas and call it "innovation".
      Google wouldn't know innovation if it mushroom- slapped em across the face. But the theft and blatant ripping off
      doesn't stop there, no, not by a longshot: Google is being sued by Oracle, and is going to get its *** handed to it in court.
      Why? heres the kicker: They blatantly stole Oracle's Java code and implemented it (the actual source code, what morons!)
      In - you guessed it - Android! And one more fun tidbit, fanboy, since Im having so much fun schoolin' ya:
      Google has to pay Microsoft 5 bucks (a lot of money, don't you try to shrug this off) on every Android device sold, because of -
      you guessed it - A copyright infringement Lawsuit settlement! And now they are looking towards a webOS guy (Matias Duarte) to save em.
      Ha! Wow Google! You guys are worse than Samsung!

      And WP7? Microsoft? Are you taking hallucinogens?
      Microsoft has been an utter failure in everything outside of PC's and the Xbox 360 since it entered the Millenium!
      If it weren't for its cash cows (Word, Excel, Powerpoint), MS would be up ****'s creek without arms, legs or a damn paddle.
      It even messed up on its own bread and butter - Vista, an operating system! How lazy and incompetent can you get??
      Hows the zune working out for ya? oh yeah, thats dead. How are tablets workin out for ya, it was you guys who originally thought of it,
      wasn't it? lets remember where MS got its start: Bill Gates, a guy who stole every piece of software he ever laid eyes on, from Dos to Windows.
      Where did he get the idea for windows? - From Apple, of course.

      And Apple are damned thieves too! Without Xerox PARC there would be no Mac OS.

      You see where Im getting at, fanboy?
      How completely uneducated and juvenile your comments are?
      Go read a book or ten, and get back at me. I can do this all day.
      Boom baby!!!
    1. mamipig22's Avatar
      mamipig22 -
      Quote Originally Posted by TooSlo View Post
      So how's that awesome new pull-down notification center that Apple came up wi.....er stole from Android and marketed as some awesome new mobile feature?

      The WP7 voice search works great, which is what confuses me so much. I also have to laugh a bit about Siri being in beta. Still stealing ideas from Google by releasing a beta product? :P
      Who originate the notification banner? Isn't it a guy name rich del linger? And palm pre have it before google, so google stole it from palm pre. Guess what the guy who invent the notification banner, he works for apple. So android is the thief. Typical google stole other people idea and said the invent it. Ics update, u can put one app on another and it create a folder. I guess android invent that also? Oh wait apple stole that from android.
    1. bigliquid530's Avatar
      bigliquid530 -
      Wether you like iOS, android, or ect... Who cares as long as your happy "F"-it

      Just be happy we have all this technology
    1. Jackrainz's Avatar
      Jackrainz -
      And to all these people with confetti for brains, talkin' 'bout "oh, Android has that", or "windows has that":
      (i'd be saying this regardless of the company who owns the tech, it just so happens to be Apple who owns Siri)
      Siri is light years away from Android and Windows voice interface solutions. Have the words Artificial Intelligence
      Not dawned on you yet? Do you need it pantomimed? or are you struggling with understanding the concept? (clearly).
      This isn't saying mundane, simple phrases to your phone like "Call Annie" or "search for Mickey D's" - This is telling your phone
      to set your alarm clock, set a calendar reminder, set a geotag location based reminder, read a text message to you, reply for you, do I really need to go over the list to drive the point across? Well, I refuse, damn it.

      Get off of your couch, get into your car, head to the nearest Apple store (I dont care if your allergic, you will do it!),
      Pick up an iPhone 4s Demo model, and talk to Siri. then compare it to your Android phone.
      if there is an ounce of objectivity in your body, you will realize how dead wrong you were.