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  • Microsoft: Our Phones Have Had Siri For a Year


    Craig Mundie of Microsoft says that the iPhone’s Siri personal assistant software isn’t new technology at all. According to him, Microsoft has had a similar system that has been available on the Windows Phone for over a year. Furthermore, he even went as far as saying that Apple marketed the feature to try and shift focus away from the iPhone 4S’s lack of new features.

    Microsoft’s Chief Research and Strategy Officer Craig Mundie in an interview last week with Forbes shared his opinion on Apple and the infamous personal assistant, Siri.He noted that the Windows Phone’s “TellMe” technology, which he claims is essentially the same thing, has been functional for over a year. During the interview he mentioned the following: "The Tellme facility's been in the Windows 7 phone for more than a year," Mundie said. "So I mean I just think people are infatuated with Apple announcing [Siri]."



    He continued to discuss that Microsoft could learn from Apple’s marketing tactics, despite feeling that the Cupertino giant had to focus on the voice technology due to the lack of new features found in the iPhone 4S. He mentioned the following regarding Apple’s marketing strategy: "In a sense, you know, many people were disappointed with [Apple's] newest phone because it wasn't a completely new thing, so the only thing they really had to hammer on was that feature," Mundie said. "Maybe we need to pick a feature and hammer on it harder."

    Google’s Vice President of Mobile, Andy Rubin also had a similar response regarding Siri. According to him: “Your phone is a tool for communicating. You shouldn’t be communicating with the phone; you should be communicating with somebody on the other side of the phone.” So both major competitors Google and Microsoft feel that Siri is not as important as people make it out to be. Their beliefs and statements have caused much commotion in the tech industry and more-so among consumers.

    As of right now, Microsoft has been dealing with a harsh transition from Windows Mobile to the current Windows Phone platform. The company is faced with many obstacles in moving from the old operating system, which targeted enterprise users, to a new consumer driven model. The company still has high hopes for the Windows Phone platform though as they seek to become a major player in the mobile market, noting the recent partnership with Nokia as a “huge” opportunity in making the platform successful.

    As a competitor, Microsoft seems to be holding their head up too high here and not admitting where they were or are still wrong. Steve Ballmer previously laughed off the original iPhone as being overpriced and not appealing to business customers because it doesn’t have a keyboard. As well all know, the iPhone went on to become the world’s most popular handset. Microsoft made a big mistake back then and seems to be making another now. Siri functionality is not existent in Windows Phone software - just because your phones and your platform can recognize a limited set of voice commands doesn’t mean it is on par with the Siri technology. The Siri co-founder, Norman Winarsky previously said Siri was going to be a “world-changing event” and he seems to be right about that.

    What’s your take on the situation? Share your thoughts below!

    Source: Forbes
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Microsoft: Our Phones Have Had Siri for A Year started by Akshay Masand View original post
    Comments 52 Comments
    1. GellBrake'rrrr's Avatar
      GellBrake'rrrr -
      Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller006 View Post
      Meh, Android have also had the same thing for a long time now.
      The iPhone itself has had technology like Siri for years as well..... The difference is how Siri is far more advanced than what all the other similar programs have I.e a personality, and a sense of humor.

      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      You make me laugh.
      Lets start with this: Google (Eric Schmidt) stole their idea for Android from Apple. Thats a fact.
      Don't believe it? use Google to search "Android before the iPhone" in images. Know what you'll find?
      You'll find an Android phone that looks like... err... a Blackberry? - you damn right. Because
      all, and I repeat, all Google can do is steal other companies ideas and
      call it "innovation".
      Google wouldn't know innovation if it mushroom- slapped em across the face. But the theft and blatant ripping off
      doesn't stop there, no, not by a longshot: Google is being sued by Oracle, and is going to get its *** handed to it in court.
      Why? heres the kicker: They blatantly stole Oracle's Java code and implemented it (the actual source code, what morons!)
      In - you guessed it - Android! And one more fun tidbit, fanboy, since Im having so much fun schoolin' ya:
      Google has to pay Microsoft 5 bucks (a lot of money, don't you try to shrug this off) on every Android device sold, because of -
      you guessed it - A copyright infringement Lawsuit settlement! And now they are looking towards a webOS guy (Matias Duarte) to save em.
      Ha! Wow Google! You guys are worse than Samsung!

      And WP7? Microsoft? Are you taking hallucinogens?
      Microsoft has been an utter failure in everything outside of PC's and the Xbox 360 since it entered the Millenium!
      If it weren't for its cash cows (Word, Excel, Powerpoint), MS would be up ****'s creek without arms, legs or a damn paddle.
      It even messed up on its own bread and butter - Vista, an operating system! How lazy and incompetent can you get??
      Hows the zune working out for ya? oh yeah, thats dead. How are tablets workin out for ya, it was you guys who originally thought of it,
      wasn't it? lets remember where MS got its start: Bill Gates, a guy who stole every piece of software he ever laid eyes on, from Dos to Windows.
      Where did he get the idea for windows? - From Apple, of course.

      And Apple are damned thieves too! Without Xerox PARC there would be no Mac OS.

      You see where Im getting at, fanboy?
      How completely uneducated and juvenile your comments are?
      Go read a book or ten, and get back at me. I can do this all day.
      I couldn't have said it any better. My pops has worked for xerox since I was born.... 35 years ago, he told me about how Steve jobs got the pc concept from xerox WAY BEFORE the movie explained it.
    1. stryker_tc's Avatar
      stryker_tc -
      “Your phone is a tool for communicating. You shouldn’t be communicating with the phone; you should be communicating with somebody on the other side of the phone.”
      Well, that's kinda like telling Michael Knight he shouldn't have been talking to K.I T.T. and instead, should have just drove the damn car. ...MS some haters.
    1. GellBrake'rrrr's Avatar
      GellBrake'rrrr -
      Quote Originally Posted by stryker_tc View Post
      Well, that's kinda like telling Michael Knight he shouldn't have been talking to K.I T.T. and instead, should have just drove the damn car. ...MS some haters.
      That's funny!
    1. Trooper Sam's Avatar
      Trooper Sam -
      The original iPhone WAS overpriced. Remember $499 for 4GB and $599 for 8GB, WITH a contract?!?!
    1. Raybeast's Avatar
      Raybeast -
      Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
      Debating and disagreeing is fine. Insulting other members is not. Please do not do it.
      Well said!

      I think everyone is taking this too serious. Let's not bring up the entire history of Android and iOS just to talk about a voice recognition program. It's true Android had voice commands on their devices before Apple's iOS did, but Siri is just more advanced and more human to human like.

      For example my cousin just got the iPhone 4S but his wife has a HTC running Android. I asked the iPhone will I need an umbrella tomorrow and it said, "I don't think so, the weather tomorrow is sunny." I asked the Android the exact same thing and it did not recognize my phrase.

      So in conclusion Siri is just more human to human like, however doesn't mean any company is ripping off any other company, so everybody on ModMyi let's get together again and be friends!
    1. TooSlo's Avatar
      TooSlo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      You make me laugh.
      Sure, we can have a debate about all of this now that I'm not typing from a smartphone.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      You make me laugh.
      Lets start with this: Google (Eric Schmidt) stole their idea for Android from Apple. Thats a fact.
      Please, cite the information to prove this "fact."


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      Don't believe it? use Google to search "Android before the iPhone" in images. Know what you'll find? You'll find an Android phone that looks like... err... a Blackberry? - you damn right. Because all, and I repeat, all Google can do is steal other companies ideas and call it "innovation". Google wouldn't know innovation if it mushroom- slapped em across the face.
      That's saying quite a bit without refuting my comments. If you can point out where I was discussing the initial development of the Android platform, I'd be happy to go into that discussion. My comment reflected the lack of innovation from Apple over the last iteration of the iPhone and iOS. I would say the evidence is clear cut when speaking to ideas such as the notification center and voice search on the Android and WP7 platforms.

      If you'd like, I'm more than happy to find some images and reviews which show both of these in use before Apple's announcement of iOS 5.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      But the theft and blatant ripping off doesn't stop there, no, not by a longshot: Google is being sued by Oracle, and is going to get its *** handed to it in court. Why? heres the kicker: They blatantly stole Oracle's Java code and implemented it (the actual source code, what morons!) In - you guessed it - Android!
      This link is about the most current you will find about the possible damages Google may receive. As it sounds like you may have followed this story so far, you will also remember that there have been two instances where the judge overseeing the case has thrown out Oracle's demands. While a possible $1.16bn is a large chunk of change, Google's financial tables show an approximate 2010 revenue of $29bn, and a profit of just over $10bn. Looking at the same page, as of the end of 2010, Google was sitting on approximately $35bn in cash and marketable securities. Unaudited, they are up to approximately $42.5bn as of the end of the 3rd quarter of 2011.

      As I said before, $1.16bn is a substantial amount of money, but it's hardly going to sink the Google ship. What do I think about Android? While I frown on IP theft, I ultimately have no say in the result.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      And one more fun tidbit, fanboy, since Im having so much fun schoolin' ya: Google has to pay Microsoft 5 bucks (a lot of money, don't you try to shrug this off) on every Android device sold, because of - you guessed it - A copyright infringement Lawsuit settlement!
      You may want to rethink the terminology that you're using. The fees paid to Microsoft, which are actually closer to $10-15USD per device (according to The Guardian) aren't a lawsuit settlement, but a patent licensing deal. While none of these figures are public, there are rumors that there was no lump sum paid to Microsoft by Samsung or HTC.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      And now they are looking towards a webOS guy (Matias Duarte) to save em. Ha! Wow Google! You guys are worse than Samsung!
      Can you share exactly what they are being "saved" from? Matias Duarte worked as a lead developer for webOS' Human Interface and User Experience. Before that, he also played a large role with Danger, who produced the Sidekick.

      Matias has been working with Google since 2010. If you're trying to fear monger people into believing that Google hiring Matias is a desperation move, I'm not buying it. Alluding to webOS not taking hold because of him is also incredibly unfounded, as the downfall of webOS started with Sprint being the premier launch partner of the devices in the US. This is another debate altogether, and one likely not needed on an Apple fan website. I'm more than happy to discuss my feelings on webOS another time though.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      And WP7? Microsoft? Are you taking hallucinogens?
      Save the insults and back up anything you have to say with facts.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      Microsoft has been an utter failure in everything outside of PC's and the Xbox 360 since it entered the Millenium!
      bing has been making steady progress since its inception. In a year over year analysis, bing has continued to gain market share. While initial share of the search market was from Yahoo, they (bing) have managed to grab market share from Google in 2011. c|net had an article that shows some insight into where bing is gaining market share.

      You may also want to consider the financial backing that Microsoft can place into a vertical like the search market. Strong financial backing, plus a young org, means that you can take calculated risks to bring new and innovative solutions to the end user that Google just can't make. Even subtle changes to the way Google markets itself can have incredible impacts on it's revenue stream. Microsoft doesn't have this same problem because of it's diverse revenue stream, so new features can be tested without as much concern about causing problems with the company as a whole.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      If it weren't for its cash cows (Word, Excel, Powerpoint), MS would be up ****'s creek without arms, legs or a damn paddle. It even messed up on its own bread and butter - Vista, an operating system! How lazy and incompetent can you get??
      You're an interation behind in regards to operating systems. Windows 7, and to a lesser extent, Windows Server 2008 have been the fastest selling OS in history. The user experience in Win7 is fantastic, and works great even on an enterprise level.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      Hows the zune working out for ya? oh yeah, thats dead.
      The Zune service is still alive and kicking. If you've used a WP7 device, you will have seen that the Zune software and interface has been merged into the updated mobile OS.

      I never implied that I owned a Zune though, so to answer your question on "Hows(sic) the zune working out for ya?" Zune success to me personally is irrelevant. Do I see a worthwhile streaming service if they bring down the monthly subscription rate or allow the integrated track purchases to be carried from month-to-month? Absolutely.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      How are tablets workin out for ya, it was you guys who originally thought of it, wasn't it?
      I've been able to use the Samsung Win8 tablet that was shown at /build/, and it's a great piece of hardware. Windows 8 and the Metro UI look phenomenal, and are incredibly usable on it. As Win8 has a touch-centric layer, tablet functionality is fantastic while being able to dock the device and use a standard desktop GUI. These hybrid platforms have a possibility of being compelling to use.

      I think it's fantastic that Apple has mainstreamed the idea of a tablet as a device. I also don't have a compelling need to own an iPad, because I have a laptop. If I can purchase a device that will fill that need for a full power machine that includes the desktop applications I already own, while providing another function as a tablet, that's fantastic. There are some devices which are close, but none are there yet. Hopefully these next generation devices will fit those needs while providing some of the "wants" without having to lug around another $500+ worth of hardware.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      How completely uneducated and juvenile your comments are?
      Go read a book or ten, and get back at me. I can do this all day.
      I'm pretty buried in my current reading load, which includes SQL Server 2008, SharePoint, and when I'm feeling like light reading, technical writing manuals for some continuing ed classes I decided to take in my off-time.

      I'm sure I can fit in Mockingjay or Dragonriders of Pern (may Ms. McCaffrey be resting in Heaven) if you'd like? Maybe something more mundane?

      All joking about non-technical reading aside, I'm going to ask that you speak to my initial post. While you typed a lot and made some baseless accusations, you never spoke to my somewhat vague questions. I'm going to break them out for you so they won't be misinterpreted. If you decide to just hurl insults and fail to cite anything you're saying, I'm done with this. You threw down the gauntlet to be challenged, and I'm wholeheartedly accepting.


      1. Regarding the iOS 5 notification center - Explain why Apple validates this as a huge step forward in mobile OS design, when it's been a fundamental part of Android since it's initial retail release.

      2. Regarding Siri and voice search/action functionality - Explain how Siri is such a large step forward in the human interaction with mobile devices, when nearly identical functionality has existed on other mobile platforms, and to a degree on iOS through the "Accessibility" functions baked into iOS. (VoiceOver, Speak Selection, Speak Auto-text) Compare Siri's functionality to WP7.5 and Android 4.0. If you don't have experience with these devices and OS', please don't make baseless assumptions on how they function.


      Now, if you're willing to answer those admittedly essay-esque questions, I'm more than happy to continue this discussion.
    1. Agent929's Avatar
      Agent929 -
      Quote Originally Posted by TooSlo View Post
      Sure, we can have a debate about all of this now that I'm not typing from a smartphone.




      Please, cite the information to prove this "fact."




      That's saying quite a bit without refuting my comments. If you can point out where I was discussing the initial development of the Android platform, I'd be happy to go into that discussion. My comment reflected the lack of innovation from Apple over the last iteration of the iPhone and iOS. I would say the evidence is clear cut when speaking to ideas such as the notification center and voice search on the Android and WP7 platforms.

      If you'd like, I'm more than happy to find some images and reviews which show both of these in use before Apple's announcement of iOS 5.




      This link is about the most current you will find about the possible damages Google may receive. As it sounds like you may have followed this story so far, you will also remember that there have been two instances where the judge overseeing the case has thrown out Oracle's demands. While a possible $1.16bn is a large chunk of change, Google's financial tables show an approximate 2010 revenue of $29bn, and a profit of just over $10bn. Looking at the same page, as of the end of 2010, Google was sitting on approximately $35bn in cash and marketable securities. Unaudited, they are up to approximately $42.5bn as of the end of the 3rd quarter of 2011.

      As I said before, $1.16bn is a substantial amount of money, but it's hardly going to sink the Google ship. What do I think about Android? While I frown on IP theft, I ultimately have no say in the result.




      You may want to rethink the terminology that you're using. The fees paid to Microsoft, which are actually closer to $10-15USD per device (according to The Guardian) aren't a lawsuit settlement, but a patent licensing deal. While none of these figures are public, there are rumors that there was no lump sum paid to Microsoft by Samsung or HTC.




      Can you share exactly what they are being "saved" from? Matias Duarte worked as a lead developer for webOS' Human Interface and User Experience. Before that, he also played a large role with Danger, who produced the Sidekick.

      Matias has been working with Google since 2010. If you're trying to fear monger people into believing that Google hiring Matias is a desperation move, I'm not buying it. Alluding to webOS not taking hold because of him is also incredibly unfounded, as the downfall of webOS started with Sprint being the premier launch partner of the devices in the US. This is another debate altogether, and one likely not needed on an Apple fan website. I'm more than happy to discuss my feelings on webOS another time though.




      Save the insults and back up anything you have to say with facts.




      bing has been making steady progress since its inception. In a year over year analysis, bing has continued to gain market share. While initial share of the search market was from Yahoo, they (bing) have managed to grab market share from Google in 2011. c|net had an article that shows some insight into where bing is gaining market share.

      You may also want to consider the financial backing that Microsoft can place into a vertical like the search market. Strong financial backing, plus a young org, means that you can take calculated risks to bring new and innovative solutions to the end user that Google just can't make. Even subtle changes to the way Google markets itself can have incredible impacts on it's revenue stream. Microsoft doesn't have this same problem because of it's diverse revenue stream, so new features can be tested without as much concern about causing problems with the company as a whole.




      You're an interation behind in regards to operating systems. Windows 7, and to a lesser extent, Windows Server 2008 have been the fastest selling OS in history. The user experience in Win7 is fantastic, and works great even on an enterprise level.




      The Zune service is still alive and kicking. If you've used a WP7 device, you will have seen that the Zune software and interface has been merged into the updated mobile OS.

      I never implied that I owned a Zune though, so to answer your question on "Hows(sic) the zune working out for ya?" Zune success to me personally is irrelevant. Do I see a worthwhile streaming service if they bring down the monthly subscription rate or allow the integrated track purchases to be carried from month-to-month? Absolutely.




      I've been able to use the Samsung Win8 tablet that was shown at /build/, and it's a great piece of hardware. Windows 8 and the Metro UI look phenomenal, and are incredibly usable on it. As Win8 has a touch-centric layer, tablet functionality is fantastic while being able to dock the device and use a standard desktop GUI. These hybrid platforms have a possibility of being compelling to use.

      I think it's fantastic that Apple has mainstreamed the idea of a tablet as a device. I also don't have a compelling need to own an iPad, because I have a laptop. If I can purchase a device that will fill that need for a full power machine that includes the desktop applications I already own, while providing another function as a tablet, that's fantastic. There are some devices which are close, but none are there yet. Hopefully these next generation devices will fit those needs while providing some of the "wants" without having to lug around another $500+ worth of hardware.




      I'm pretty buried in my current reading load, which includes SQL Server 2008, SharePoint, and when I'm feeling like light reading, technical writing manuals for some continuing ed classes I decided to take in my off-time.

      I'm sure I can fit in Mockingjay or Dragonriders of Pern (may Ms. McCaffrey be resting in Heaven) if you'd like? Maybe something more mundane?

      All joking about non-technical reading aside, I'm going to ask that you speak to my initial post. While you typed a lot and made some baseless accusations, you never spoke to my somewhat vague questions. I'm going to break them out for you so they won't be misinterpreted. If you decide to just hurl insults and fail to cite anything you're saying, I'm done with this. You threw down the gauntlet to be challenged, and I'm wholeheartedly accepting.


      1. Regarding the iOS 5 notification center - Explain why Apple validates this as a huge step forward in mobile OS design, when it's been a fundamental part of Android since it's initial retail release.

      2. Regarding Siri and voice search/action functionality - Explain how Siri is such a large step forward in the human interaction with mobile devices, when nearly identical functionality has existed on other mobile platforms, and to a degree on iOS through the "Accessibility" functions baked into iOS. (VoiceOver, Speak Selection, Speak Auto-text) Compare Siri's functionality to WP7.5 and Android 4.0. If you don't have experience with these devices and OS', please don't make baseless assumptions on how they function.


      Now, if you're willing to answer those admittedly essay-esque questions, I'm more than happy to continue this discussion.
      Wow, I'm a tech expert as well. I definitely got educated there.
    1. TooSlo's Avatar
      TooSlo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      And to all these people with confetti for brains, talkin' 'bout "oh, Android has that", or "windows has that": (i'd be saying this regardless of the company who owns the tech, it just so happens to be Apple who owns Siri) Siri is light years away from Android and Windows voice interface solutions.
      I've found Siri to be quite lacking. My Father-in-law and Mother-in-law spent a couple hours one night seeing just what Siri can do, and figuring if it was worth the upgrade for my MIL, as she's beginning to struggle with macular degeneration.

      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      Have the words Artificial Intelligence Not dawned on you yet? Do you need it pantomimed? or are you struggling with understanding the concept? (clearly).
      Siri is not AI. This blog post is fantastic, and speaks to why Siri is lackluster in its current form.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      This isn't saying mundane, simple phrases to your phone like "Call Annie" or "search for Mickey D's" - This is telling your phone to set your alarm clock, set a calendar reminder, set a geotag location based reminder, read a text message to you, reply for you, do I really need to go over the list to drive the point across?
      While read/write text messages has been around for some time, I've just gone through a list of questions and here are my results.

      Set an alarm clock for 8:00am - Was set properly
      Set reminder for geolocation arrival - Was "set" but upon arriving, wasn't triggered. Location services are indeed turned on.
      Question: "Siri, where is City Center Plaza in Bellevue, Washington?" Answer: "Sorry, I couldn't find 'City Center' plaza in Bellevue Washington."
      Question: "Siri, when is the next bus into Bellevue, Washington?" Answer: "Here is a map of Bellevue."
      Question: "Siri, is the Amtrak from Seattle to Bellingham Washington on time?" Answer: "The time in Bellingham is 11:20PM"
      Question: "Siri, when is the next bus from Kingsgate Park and Ride to Bellevue Transit Center?" Answer: "Sorry, I can only get directions starting from your current location"
      Question: "Siri, when is the next bus from here to Bellevue Transit Center?" Answer: "I found 2 places matching 'Bellevue Transit Center'. Tap the one you want directions to:"
      Question: "Siri, where can I buy The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim?" Answer: Opened bing search page - no voice answer.


      Quote Originally Posted by Jackrainz View Post
      Well, I refuse, damn it. Get off of your couch, get into your car, head to the nearest Apple store (I dont care if your allergic, you will do it!), Pick up an iPhone 4s Demo model, and talk to Siri. then compare it to your Android phone. if there is an ounce of objectivity in your body, you will realize how dead wrong you were.
      Out of the questions listed above, the only one that will not work that Siri set. Unfortunately, the geotag didn't actually set properly based on location name, which is useless if I don't carry around an address book with me at all times.

      All of this being said, I want to be wow'd by technology. I've run the gamut of mobile OS' on the market currently, and I'm currently giving iOS another chance. There is currently a distinct lack of "wow" with the 4S, which is what's making me ask questions like "Where is the innovation?" Where are features like integrated social networking and contact consolidation? Why do I have to go into another application to message the same person I was on Lync, MSN, AIM, etc? Isn't it a much better user experience to have a single contact that you send messages to, and it chooses the most valid medium to send to that person?
    1. trevorrawson's Avatar
      trevorrawson -
      Quote Originally Posted by Trooper Sam View Post
      The original iPhone WAS overpriced. Remember $499 for 4GB and $599 for 8GB, WITH a contract?!?!
      Sorry to burst your bubble but the original iPhone was not tied to a contract. It was a high priced phone, but in contrast it's the same price as all these other Android phones are with out their contract.
    1. TooSlo's Avatar
      TooSlo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Agent929 View Post
      Wow, I'm a tech expert as well. I definitely got educated there.
      I appreciate the compliment! I'm passionate about the industry I'm a part of.
    1. RobertZama's Avatar
      RobertZama -
      Quote Originally Posted by stevelucky View Post
      Edit again: I realized that Android was founded on 2003, not 2005 as I stated. I hereby take the dumbass title upon myself.
      Just cuz Andorid was funded in 03' and was acquired by Google in 05' doesn't mean it was anything like curent android OS that was indeed copied from IOS and. Not only that but since the Iphone you can see how android devices have a lot of the Iphone functionality like the way we interact with the display. Before IOS android was something similar to blackberry's os witch was probably also stollen.
    1. GoCryAboutIt's Avatar
      GoCryAboutIt -
      If were really gonna start up on the whole "stole this and that" topic, let's get talkin about how much stuff Crapple has stole from the Jailbreak community!!!! Hell there are a grip of "new features" in iOS 4 and iOS 5 that have been available to Jailbroken iDevices for quite sometime now. Not to mention were talking about a "SMARTPHONE" that didn't even used to be able to send MMS messages, yet I had $20 Nokia phones from back in 2005 that could send them no problem.
    1. virtualcappy's Avatar
      virtualcappy -
      Quote Originally Posted by tariman21 View Post
      Android:
      "Android, Inc. was founded in Palo Alto, California, United States in October, 2003 by Andy Rubin...to develop, in Rubin's words "...smarter mobile devices that are more aware of its owner's location and preferences". Despite the obvious past accomplishments of the founders and early employees, Android Inc. operated secretly, revealing only that it was working on software for mobile phones."

      "Google purchased the initial developer of the software, Android Inc., in 2005."


      iOS:
      "The operating system was unveiled with the iPhone at the Macworld Conference & Expo on January 9, 2007, and released in June of that year."


      Get your facts straight before you comment, otherwise it makes you look like a dumbass, dumbass.
      Actually, removed there's quite a difference between "founded" (in '03) and "unveiled" (in '07). I suspect apple may have had something up it's sleeve way back in '03...
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      blueberry27 -
      Just wanna put in my 2 cents. Dun flame me, K?I dun have winmo7 and nvr use Tellme b4. But I gotta say, iPhone voice control always work for me since my 1st 3Gs while Google Voice Search always failed me. (when I say always fail, I mean didn't even work once. fyi: I'm an asian.) So, m very happy with Siri cos basically you can teach her to listen to your voice. Believe it or not, my Siri can now understand those names in my contact which are in my native pronouciation spelled using closes phonetics. Honestly, there are lots of my native words those can't be correctly spell out in english, yet Siri remember it after I correct for it 2-3 times.So, I personally deny that either MS or G has what it takes to be on par with Siri.
    1. RobertZama's Avatar
      RobertZama -
      Quote Originally Posted by GoCryAboutIt View Post
      If were really gonna start up on the whole "stole this and that" topic, let's get talkin about how much sh,it Crapple has stole from the Jailbreak community!!!! Hell there are a grip of "new features" in iOS 4 and iOS 5 that have been available to Jailbroken iDevices for quite sometime now. Not to mention were talking about a "SMARTPHONE" that didn't even used to be able to send MMS messages, yet I had $20 Nokia phones from back in 2005 that could send them no problem.
      They did not steal from the jailbreak community, they adopt and for the user benefit. so people with who don't want to jailbreak or don't know how to jailbreak can take advantage of those features. and maybe someday the need for jailbreak will no longer be necessary. As for not adopting certain technologies until later this is also for good reason... take 4g for example, while there is little or no 4g coverage in most areas instead of acquiring 4g technology for iphone4 and 4s apple decided to focus their resources on other things like retina display, or making a world phone that functions on both gsm and cmda while providing good battery life so while they wait for the 4g technology to mature they will figure out a way to implement it without sacrificing battery life or other features.
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      bu11etpr00f -
      WOW! I hope you all know; I don't think it will really matter who is given the most credit for being the "first" one in advancing us with "AI", Skynet will put an end to that debate once and for all once it becomes fully aware... :P

      Don't blame me when your portable technology frames you for murder by claiming you were someplace you never were...remember technology doesn't lie...yet!

      ...coulda swore I saw that in a movie somewhere...
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      stevelucky -
      Quote Originally Posted by RobertZama View Post
      Just cuz Andorid was funded in 03' and was acquired by Google in 05' doesn't mean it was anything like curent android OS that was indeed copied from IOS and. Not only that but since the Iphone you can see how android devices have a lot of the Iphone functionality like the way we interact with the display. Before IOS android was something similar to blackberry's os witch was probably also stollen.

      Oh, I totally agree. I was just referencing my previous post where I erroneously said that Android was founded in 2005.
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      blueberry27 -
      Rofl. Food for thought: why AT&T had nvr patented nor sued any handset manufacture (incl. Apple, G & MS, or even Nokia) for using the same 12-button dial for their phone?(p.s. b4 u say there is no other way to design a dial, launch Calculator app on yr phone. For me, I use calculator everyday, so no big deal if the phone dial were tat way. But yes, I do prefer this standard config on my phone.)
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      Colby21 -
      I laugh at anyone trying to explain how Siri is so much more advanced than the other "Artificial Intelegences" out there. I have the 3gs, and my Voiuce Control and pull up a song and call home. So idk what the big deal is about Siri. 100% agree with the article. Siri was the only feature apple had to go on since people were upset about the same formfactor. Only techys like ourselves would appreciate the internal hardware bump. We all know that we're not the only one's who appreciate the phone. So apple targeted everyone else...."Siriii.... woaaaah!!" Don't mean to get back to the article's main point... but i don't really care who came before who and all that crap. As we learned from The Social Network, it all comes out to who launches the idea first. (Watch, there's going to be a huge debate on the social network and how things come before things.. ugh )
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      jajuan -
      Google and Microsoft are falling behind because they don't understand the consumer. We buy products for the user experience not the techinology. I repeat, we buy products for the user experience not the technology. Android and Windows powered phones have amazing technology but they aren't as user friendly as Apple products.

      Yes Apple spoon feeds us new features slower then they ought to, but I don't see anyone trading in their idevices for microsoft or google products. Competitors really need to rethink their marketing strategies and figure out how to "wow" us. At this point, the only way to compete with Apple is to offer consumers way more for way less and make sure the user experience is not superior.