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  • Pod2g Warns Jailbreakers Not to Update to iOS 5.0.1

    Pod2g warns jailbreakers not to update to iOS 5.0.1 due to untethered jailbreak concerns.

    A few days ago, ModMyi reported that ex-Chronic Dev Team member pod2g tweeted out that he found an untether bug for iOS 5. Other than the information given above, it is unknown on how far he's gotten as well as when we can expect public release. Although he's remained MIA for the last couple of months or so, he seems to be actively keeping us updated on what's in store. Eight hours ago, he tweeted out a warning to those who want to update to iOS 5.0.1 upon release.



    According to his tweet, iOS 5.0.1 will close an iOS security bug found by Charlie Miller that makes exploits dramatically easier to tackle. This would imply that a jailbreak for iOS 5.0 versus iOS 5.0.1 could come quicker. Pod2g clarified in a later tweet that it wasn't a matter of iOS 5.0.1 never being jailbreakable, it will just be more difficult and will take longer.

    So for us end users, what should we do? Below is the grant scheme of things:

    iOS 5.0 Users: Remain on this firmware and do not update to iOS 5.0.1. After iOS 5.0.1 releases, Apple will close the signing window for this firmware and won't allow downgrades. With SHSH not being an option anymore, you may have to wait longer for a jailbreak if you're on iOS 5.0.1.

    iOS 5.0.1 Beta Users: Downgrade back to iOS 5.0. As the above, the signing window will be closed when iOS 5.0.1 is publicly released, leaving you no choice but to update up, not downgrade.

    iOS 4: Hang tight. Many of you are most likely on iOS 4 still due to unlocks and baseband issues. Breaking those just to update iOS 5 would be unwise. Information as it comes will be posted to give better clarification in this regard. However, if unlocks and basebands are not an issue for you and you're able to update to iOS 5, I strongly would. Just as the above, the signing window will close when iOS 5.0.1 releases.

    Ultimately, it is your decision whether to take action on what has been stated. However I would take in consideration all the factors on the table and base your decision upon your own personal situation.

    Information, as it reaches the surface, will be here on ModMyi for user clarification.

    Source(s): pod2g
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Pod2g Warns Jailbreakers Not to Update to iOS 5.0.1 started by Joshua Tucker View original post
    Comments 85 Comments
    1. drknsurfur's Avatar
      drknsurfur -
      2 questions if i have the my SHSH blobs saved whats the best way to get to iOS 5 if i am on tethered 4.3.5 because i don't want to upgrade before knowing what i need to save? Second one is if i get to iOS 5 and find it too annoying because of the battery life issue can i downgrade back to iOS 4.3.5 and then upgrade to 5.0.1 when it is safe to JB it or would that be pointless??
    1. Fidlisskbarned's Avatar
      Fidlisskbarned -
      I'm convinced apple is more concerned with control than they are with quality control. It seems like they want to be rid of jb more than they want to resolve the issues with the new phone. I'm staying with 4.3.3 until untethered is a fact
    1. z3r01's Avatar
      z3r01 -
      I think apple does this on purpose so that when a jailbreak emerges they close it up on the update fix.
    1. The6uest's Avatar
      The6uest -
      Josh, do you know if this exploit works on the 4S?
    1. perealb's Avatar
      perealb -
      Well, thank you for the heads up. Those are valid points, but:

      1) It seems that pod2g might be using Charlie Miller's exploit but it's not clear that the dev team or chronic dev team are using the same exploit. PS: It would probably be a good idea for all teams to get together and decide to use only one exploit for each one of the tools for the first iOS 5 untethered jailbreak.

      2) I am not sure but I believe you can still upgrade to iOS 5 preserving iPhone 4 baseband allowing you to downgrade to 4.X. Has anyone successfuly jailbroken iOS 5 on iPhone 4 preserving baseband? (on baseband 01.59.00, for instance)

      3) Once on iOS 5, can you prevent it from automatically do OTA upgrades?

      4) I am waiting for iOS 5 jailbreak to be announced before purchasing the iPhone 4S but if the jailbreak for 5.0.1 is going to be delayed further, I should probably buy the 4S before it comes with 5.0.1 pre-installed.

      5) Did any of the jailbreak developers mention they have been working on a new method of downgrading after iOS 5? As everyone knows, the old method of saving SHSH blobs will not work anymore on iOS 5. I would hate to have something happen to my phone and not be able to restore to an older iOS version and consequently not be able to jailbreak it. It would be a big hassle having to wait for a new version of the OS to be jailbreakable.
    1. albey20's Avatar
      albey20 -
      So I need to upgrade now with sn0wbreeze to preserve my baseband and what happend when the untethered jalbreak come?
    1. iZangetsu's Avatar
      iZangetsu -
      Quote Originally Posted by Fidlisskbarned View Post
      I'm convinced apple is more concerned with control than they are with quality control. It seems like they want to be rid of jb more than they want to resolve the issues with the new phone. I'm staying with 4.3.3 until untethered is a fact
      +100

      Also those who buggin about battery life. They can add the battery life fix from 5.01 into the 5.0 untethered JB or as a cydia tweak. it's not like it hasn't been done before. As far as I'm concerned serves all of right for being so jumpy to get your precious 4S.
    1. Tucnepo's Avatar
      Tucnepo -
      I restored my friends iPhone 4 while preserving the baseband and jailbroken on ios5.0.0 but a couple days later her phone crashed. Then I did a regular restore and lost the unlock(she don't need it). So I'm not sure if it works.
      As for the shsh blobs i think I have 5.0 gm stored via tiny umbrella. Is downgrading possible in this case?
    1. mmaboi21's Avatar
      mmaboi21 -
      I hate the apple signing window. More crap to worry about...

      Quote Originally Posted by Tucnepo View Post
      I restored my friends iPhone 4 while preserving the baseband and jailbroken on ios5.0.0 but a couple days later her phone crashed. Then I did a regular restore and lost the unlock(she don't need it). So I'm not sure if it works.
      As for the shsh blobs i think I have 5.0 gm stored via tiny umbrella. Is downgrading possible in this case?
      Yes downgrading is possible just make sure you have your blobs saved.
    1. Silverado1987's Avatar
      Silverado1987 -
      To save my battery fix was to turn off iCloud everything else was fine
    1. Pepsolman's Avatar
      Pepsolman -
      So will any of this matter to iPhone 4S users?
    1. seevic's Avatar
      seevic -
      Quote Originally Posted by mlee19841 View Post
      If their is a jailbreak for 5.0.1. I'm gonna take it. Even though it's tethered. Better battery life vs untethered jailbreak(iOS 5.0)

      P.s I know their is a jailbreak for 5.0.1 now. But anything can happen from beta to the final release of 5.0.1.
      r u saying theres an untethered jailbreak for ios5??
    1. s0ulp1xel's Avatar
      s0ulp1xel -
      Quote Originally Posted by mlee19841 View Post
      If their is a jailbreak for 5.0.1. I'm gonna take it. Even though it's tethered. Better battery life vs untethered jailbreak(iOS 5.0)

      P.s I know their is a jailbreak for 5.0.1 now. But anything can happen from beta to the final release of 5.0.1.
      same here!!!
    1. Joshua Tucker's Avatar
      Joshua Tucker -
      Quote Originally Posted by The6uest View Post
      Josh, do you know if this exploit works on the 4S?
      It is not known, however I presume yes.
    1. Tario70's Avatar
      Tario70 -
      The bottom line is this, those clamoring for a Jailbreak should instead be clamoring for a new way to back up SHSH blobs because without those blobs a jailbreak is merely a fleeting achievement.

      While I want an untether on iOS 5, I realize that without a way to restore to iOS 5 that jailbreak will be short lived. Everyone needs to take a step back & realize that without a way to restore, jailbreaks will be nearly impossible to hold on to.

      Good luck to all the devs, but I hope 2 things:

      1. I hope all the devs are talking with one another to ensure no exploit is wasted.

      2. That they're priority is with fixing the blob situation because without a fix these boards & places across the Internet will be flooded with demands to Jailbreak every single firmware that comes out.

      I know some may not like my post but I'm just being logical.
    1. rvance's Avatar
      rvance -
      Quote Originally Posted by smuj29 View Post
      Stay on 5.0 and turn off location services... Thanks for update...... Cant wait
      Man, it's works for me. So 5.0 jb, bring it on.
    1. iPod's Avatar
      iPod -
      Quote Originally Posted by 01grander View Post
      Does this mean I need to preemptively upgrade my jailbroken Ipad 2 to 5.0? Because if Apple stops signing 5.0 then I'd be forced to get 5.0.1 and it wouldn't be jailbreakable. Does Apple stop signing as soon as they release the next one or is there a few hours leway?
      I would go do a google search for the ipsw file for iOS 5 for the iPad 2, and have that available to restore to, so that you wont have to upgrade to iOS 5.0.1

      Quote Originally Posted by kadarrius View Post
      So the people with an (IPad 2) should do what if they are on (4.3.5)?A. stay put....?B. upgrade to 5.0 before Apple releases the 5.0.1 update ...someone help me im confused lol
      Download the ipsw file, but don't restore yet, this way you will not be forced to upgrade to iOS 5.0.1. But if you don't have a jailbreak anyways since you are on iOS 4.3.5, I would go ahead and upgrade to iOS 5

      Quote Originally Posted by JedixJarf View Post
      Odd, my i4 on iOS 5 has great battery life.
      It's the iPhone 4S that's suffering the battery issue. Not the other devices
    1. laurence0609's Avatar
      laurence0609 -
      Quote Originally Posted by JedixJarf View Post
      Odd, my i4 on iOS 5 has great battery life.
      +1, never have any issue with battery life since updating to iOS 5
    1. NakedFaerie's Avatar
      NakedFaerie -
      I'm went from 5.0 to 5.0.1 beta 1 and the battery life is heaps better on my iPad1. Its also less buggy.Still it's still too buggy for my iPhone 4 so I went back to 4.3.3 also coz its unteathered and cant be out on the streets when it reboots which it did on IOS5.
    1. RoloDiva13's Avatar
      RoloDiva13 -
      Quote Originally Posted by JedixJarf View Post
      Odd, my i4 on iOS 5 has great battery life.
      Count yourself lucky, then. My iP4 on iOS 5 dies a quick battery death about every 24-36 hrs when I used to go ~4 days on 4.3.3. If I am at 100% at 9 am before work then by 7p I'm staring at sub-50% when most of the day the phone is on my hip unused. The same usage patterns (actually, I tether LESS now than then) but dramatically less batt life. I was hoping a forthcoming JB would include support for 5.0.1 so I could have my batt life back...