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  • Siri Ported to iPhone 4 and iPod 4G with Apple Connectivity - The True Story


    Note: A lot of this story is full of he said she said between two writers on two sites that have some personal issues. The owners of ModMyi feel that their personal issues should have been dealt with privately. We failed to notice the issues before this was published which was a mistake. If you read between the lines of everything this is the summary of the Siri port for non-iPhone 4s:

    The current state of the port is exactly what the previous state of the port (as reported here on modmyi) was, except that the server issue was worked around and a video was shown of it working. There is no way to do this legally at this time and all the files and instructions on the internet you'll find for enabling Siri on your older port are NOT current and will not give you a real Siri. We will of course post more on the subject if at some point it becomes possible to enable Siri legally on older devices and the developers that have been working on this decide to release publicly.

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    There's a lot of confusion in regards to Siri being ported with Apple connectivity. Here's the truth.
    Over the past few weeks, there has been a lot of news of Siri being ported to older devices floating around the internet. There have been numerous people who have been able to transfer the Siri files onto their older devices, however the main issue was getting Siri to connect to Apple's servers. Without Apple connectivity you're unable to utilize Siri whatsoever, making it just a useless component to your non-iPhone 4S device. A few developers such as Steven Troughton-Smith and Jack (Jackoplane) have been working constantly to hack Apple's code in order to get Apple connectivity. It's been a rigorous task as performance as well as connectivity need to work hand in hand. During the past week, there has been a lot of confusion in regards to the status and the people involved with the Siri port. Information has been misconstrued or even wrong in some areas. Here's the truth and full storyriginally, Jack was the first person to be able to get any non-iPhone 4S device to connect to Apple's servers. This was done using his own private DNS server. When knowledge of this was publicly known, the only people who were able see it live and working was myself and Alex Heath of iDownloadBlog. There are a few other prominent players in the jailbreak community that saw this in action as well but requested to remain anonymous. Since the beginning of Jack's involvement with Siri, I have been his primary beta tester. Alex and I hand in hand served as mediums for communicating what was going on to the best of our ability to those not in the loop.The server captured data going to and from the device and Apple's server and his device and changed values accordingly. This spoofing technique proved as a viable option, but after a ton of testing, a lot of issues came up. The method was cumbersome and didn't fit the profile for distribution purposes. It would require a lot of maintenance as well as funds to uphold a DNS server that could support a ton of traffic. Jack shelved the DNS idea and resorted to having to hack the actual files in order to get Siri to work with Apple's servers via the device. At this point in the scenario, Jack reached out to 5+ developers in the jailbreak community to start the process of getting Siri packaged and working 100%. Steven Troughton-Smith and previously spotlighted people in the Siri scene had been very quiet at this point and was making no indications of further developments with regards to Siri.While working with developers, Jack's main goal was to ensure that the port worked 100% and that it would mesh well with the jailbreak environment (i.e. Mobile Substrate). Since a jailbreak is required to use Siri on any device other than the iPhone 4S, it was key that Siri was optimized for the jailbreak environment. Days were spent packaging dylibs and other files to get it package ready for a possible release. In the mean time, Steven didn't make any statements saying that he was still involved publicly, however behind the scenes, he was very much active. As of tonight, Steven was able to get in touch with Grant Paul (chpwn) who has access to a jailbroken iPhone 4S, courtesy of the iPhone Dev-Team. While Steve and Grant were spending time with one another, they were able to get the key chain files they needed from the jailbroken iPhone 4S and simply copy and paste the files onto their respective non-iPhone 4S devices. This process proved successful and allowed them to use Siri on their devices with Apple connectivity.Below are videos of an iPhone 4S and iPod touch 4G demoing Siri with Apple connectivity: After all this, one might be quick to judge Jack and call him a liar or someone that has stolen files from the other parties involved. This is not the case and anyone that has publicly stated that this was the truth is incorrect. There were a lot of reasons and drama-related issues that kept Jack from demoing Siri weeks ago.There have been a lot of people involved with the port as well as those who've had full knowledge of what has been happening. Those people include myself and Alex Heath as mentioned earlier, iH8sn0w, and a few others. The past few weeks have been like walking through a room of egg shells. Information that was crucial to its progress were needed to be concealed as well as the methods behind doing so as well.According to Steven in his interview with 9to5Mac, they will not be releasing this hack to the public. This is due to the immense about of piracy required to get the port working as it is. If there is a method by which to port Siri without infringing on Apple (and getting sued) Siri will be publicly available. Until a method is found to work around the piracy issue, there is no ETA for a release of this Siri hack. So when it all boils down, the current state of the port is just a publicity stunt.The whole ordeal with this information airing on 9to5Mac in the way it has been has caused a lot of frustration and drama in the community between all of us, including Jack. Updates on the progress of this whole situation will be revealed as it hits the wild. Jack, Alex, and I are not here to discredit Steven and Grant's accomplishment with Siri. It's quite exciting, however there is much more going on behind the scenes than people know about currently.Stay tuned.Source(s): 9to5Mac
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Siri Ported to iPhone 4 and iPod 4G with Apple Connectivity - The True Story started by Joshua Tucker View original post
    Comments 61 Comments
    1. javiert30's Avatar
      javiert30 -
      iPhone 4S and SIRI just remember me Microsoft Windows 95 and internet explorer monopolization.
    1. rkswat's Avatar
      rkswat -
      Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
      Looks like the Apple jailbreak scene is turning in to the PS3 jailbreak scene. Not releasing things but showing a lot of videos.Grow some balls devs and release what you go on about or STFU!If your not going to release it when WHY tell is about it? We want Siri on the iPhone 4 so if you can do it then release it. If you cant then dont tell us as we dont care. If you wont release it then **** ***.
      Obviously you do care or you wouldn't be crying like a ***** about it. YOU'RE not the one that will have to deal with the legal issues if they did tell you about it and Apple went after you. Don't like it, learn how to put it on your 4 yourself. I bet your one of the little kids that ***** and moan because the jailbreak isn't released yet..... grow up and stop acting like a 3 year old.
    1. NakedFaerie's Avatar
      NakedFaerie -
      Quote Originally Posted by iTouch-Warrior View Post
      Yup, this is all a publicity stunt. They're like Volkswagen/Bugatti with the Veyron, they just want to show it off and tell everyone: "We did it!". The iPhone jb community is seriously messed up these days. They're working their butts off to port something that Apple themselves might port to other devices once it comes out of BETA, since Siri is still a work in progress. Think about it: if Siri needs the extra power from the hardware of an iPhone 4S (A5 clocked at ~800MHz x 2) how come it doesn't run on an iPad 2 with a more powerful A5 processor? I seriously believe that Apple wants to control the "beta testing" of Siri to just one device, instead of 7 or 8 different devices at the same time... OR, they might have done it to have an excuse to push the 4S into people's faces, since Siri is basically the only reason to upgrade from an iPhone 4 to a 4S... We're dealing with Apple here...
      Apple would've put it on the 4S to sell the 4S even that it can work on other devices.
      There are heaps of things that work on other devices that Apple just refuse to let it. iMovie on the iPad 1 for example. It works fine but they refuse to let it.
      They like to limit things to the way they want not the way people want so I doubt they will ever let Siri work on anything less that the 4S just because they can. As we've seen Siri does work on the iPhone 4 so why didn't they port it to that too? They don't care about us or older devices. They want to make money not friends.

      And if you want to post videos and not release it then go to the PS3 scene, you'll fit in perfectly.
    1. rkswat's Avatar
      rkswat -
      I really don't understand all the anger over this. You want siri go by a freakin 4s or learn to port it over to what ever device you have.
    1. hurstolds83's Avatar
      hurstolds83 -
      Quote Originally Posted by rkswat View Post
      I really don't understand all the anger over this. You want siri go by a freakin 4s or learn to port it over to what ever device you have.
      Amen let's move on. Gotta leave room for when they get the jailbreak haha
    1. saint9806's Avatar
      saint9806 -
      Like someone mentioned earlier, I am sure an unknown dev will figure this out and it will be released one way or another. Just gotta be patient.
    1. summernyte's Avatar
      summernyte -
      my first post so i might be wrong but ya think this stoory was released so an unknown dev could see it's possible so the devs can save themselves from legal action from apple.besides i have seen everywhere this will be released probably after the 4s jb.i'm pretty sure it will be released eventually by someone just like gamecenter on 3gs or above only when it came out,voice control on 4.someone will get it done but i could be wrong.PORNSTAR NOT A TECH GEEK,lol.
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Anybody that thought this would LEGALLY come to us obviously has no real knowledge of how copyright works. Of COURSE this requires piracy to work. We would be using software (and Apple resources) that is not licensed on our devices. The minute they started speaking of the Siri port I knew it might end this way.
    1. PlatoTheForms's Avatar
      PlatoTheForms -
      Quote Originally Posted by summernyte View Post
      PORNSTAR NOT A TECH GEEK,lol.
      Where can I see your movies?
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by javiert30 View Post
      iPhone 4S and SIRI just remember me Microsoft Windows 95 and internet explorer monopolization.
      Please explain how this is even in the same ballpark as IE monopolization...
    1. Eiswritsat's Avatar
      Eiswritsat -
      This reminds me when people said the first generation iPhone couldn't do MMS...then the Dev cracked it and Apple was saying that the first gen IPhone didn't have the processing power to do MMS but in actuality it did and have no problem doing it.
    1. Jarolin Vargas's Avatar
      Jarolin Vargas -
      i cant believe apple would do something like this. my likeness for apple has gone down a few.
    1. hitman10's Avatar
      hitman10 -
      have you tried this anyone? I'm in the middle of it right now.Guide on how to Port Siri:
    1. ruslan120's Avatar
      ruslan120 -
      Quote Originally Posted by hitman10 View Post
      have you tried this anyone? I'm in the middle of it right now.Guide on how to Port Siri:

      Has anybody tried this? Seems to be one of those too-good-to-be-true things.
    1. exNavy's Avatar
      exNavy -
      Quote Originally Posted by ravelsnip View Post
      I completely agree with you.

      What's the point in showing off some **** which ain't yet released for others to try?
      +1.
    1. Nefarious's Avatar
      Nefarious -
      I look forward to when this gets out in the wild. Having Siri on my 4 and avoiding the battery issue of the 4S would make me happy until the 5 comes out next year and I upgrade.
    1. NOYB111's Avatar
      NOYB111 -
      I think people may be missing the point. This is not just another jailbreak app being ported to a Jailbroken phone. These guys have to hack SIRI servers which opens them up to legal issues. They are not just adding an app to a phone. Plus I am sure Apple won't respond well since they are not prepared for the extra load on Siri servers. I know from personal experience that when the 4s first came out Siri was extremely over worked and failed from time to time. I am sure adding millions of Jailbroken phones wouldnt help that.
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Nice to know Apple are screwing us iPhone 4 users over -_-.....and next year i4S will miss a awesome feature.
    1. NickFrey's Avatar
      NickFrey -
      Quote Originally Posted by NOYB111 View Post
      I think people may be missing the point. This is not just another jailbreak app being ported to a Jailbroken phone. These guys have to hack SIRI servers which opens them up to legal issues. They are not just adding an app to a phone. Plus I am sure Apple won't respond well since they are not prepared for the extra load on Siri servers. I know from personal experience that when the 4s first came out Siri was extremely over worked and failed from time to time. I am sure adding millions of Jailbroken phones wouldnt help that.
      The legal issues are not because of "hacking". There is no hacking of Siri servers involved. The reason it's illegal is because they're taking files from the iPhone 4S that are copyrighted and redistributing them for other people, when only the 4S is licensed to use them. I highly doubt there would be enough people using the Siri port that would cause trouble for Apple.
    1. R.Mortera's Avatar
      R.Mortera -
      Quote Originally Posted by NickFrey View Post
      The legal issues are not because of "hacking". There is no hacking of Siri servers involved. The reason it's illegal is because they're taking files from the iPhone 4S that are copyrighted and redistributing them for other people, when only the 4S is licensed to use them. I highly doubt there would be enough people using the Siri port that would cause trouble for Apple.
      Agreed. I don't think they'll release the port since there will be illegal actions going on.