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  • Steve Jobs' Vow To "Destroy Android"


    It isn’t much of a surprise for iOS users to dislike Android products and furthermore, it isn’t much of a surprise to find out that Steve Jobs felt the same way. Android has been seen as one of the biggest competitors for the iOS platform for quite some time now and people argue with pros and cons for each daily.

    According to the Associated Press, which ended up getting an early look at the upcoming Steve Jobs biography written by Walter Isaacson, Jobs said the following about Android:
    I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this.
    The statement was Jobs’ response to the introduction of an HTC handset in January 2010. The HTC handset was too similar to the iPhone and had angered Jobs. This is when Jobs met with Eric Schmidt and discussed what he called was “grand theft.” During this discussion, Jobs told Schmidt that he would not accept any settlement, no matter what the price was and he even ordered the Google chief to stop copying the iPhone. Although, Android handset makers didn’t really listen and many smartphones still to this day try to imitate the iPhone, Jobs’ stand does help us understand all the legal battles that Apple is currently involved with, in an attempt to secure the company’s intellectual property.

    With the iPhone 4S injunctions between Samsung and Apple, to Samsung going as far as claiming their new Galaxy Nexus smartphone is designed to avoid any patent infringement cases it seems like some Android handset makers are heavily involved in the whole scenario.

    I personally believe that in many cases, Jobs did succeed to a certain extent with “destroying Android.” Although Apple’s iPhone 4S might not have the best hardware in the market, the iOS platform is one of the most refined platforms that appeals to consumers of all skill levels. Give the iPhone to someone as skilled as a developer or to someone who may be new to technology such as a grandparent and the iOS platform seems to impress not only both but everyone in between as well (generally). Apple even went as far as not showcasing any hardware specifications in their latest advertisement for the iPhone 4S and is receiving positive feedback. Furthermore, the iPhone 4S has been a huge success despite receiving disappointing initial reviews and the company having Steve Jobs on their homepage for 2 weeks during its release.

    How do you feel about the whole ordeal? Share any thoughts and comments below!

    Source: Associated Press
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Steve Job's Vow To "Destroy Android" started by Akshay Masand View original post
    Comments 81 Comments
    1. JerseyScottie's Avatar
      JerseyScottie -
      People are so damn near sighted it makes me sick..Oh without apple this without apple that, open your eyes people..apple is a good company but is far from the be all end all.iOS was stolen from Nokia and apple was rightfully sued for it..a story everybody knows I don't even have to link you to it.Andoids operating system is in NO WAY similar to iOS unless you consider the ability to put icons on the homepage stealing. I am not a fanboy btw. Lets take a look thoughAndroid 1.0 as seen on phones such as the G1:software: http://www.operating-system.org/betr...3.jpghardware: http://lifestyle.iloveindia.com/loun...1-phone.jpgiOS 1.0 as seen on the original iphone.software/hardware: http://sscott.files.wordpress.com/20...main1.pngSteve Jobs in 1994 being shameless about stealing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqUNow also note how apple has used the same pull down notification tray as seen on android devices since the start. With what I have just shown you..please show me how google has stolen ideas from ios. Again, im not a fanboy but this is simply ludacris when the proof is in the pudding that ideas were not stolen from ios in favor of google android.
    1. raduga's Avatar
      raduga -
      Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
      He completely failed at destroying Android. And what an arrogant thing to say to begin with. Assuming this is factual information he just lost a whole lot of my respect...
      He may not have destroyed them, but his dying breath forced them to delay Ice Cream Sandwich by a whole week! Isn't that something?
    1. metalduster's Avatar
      metalduster -
      Android is better than ios?and who cares--nothing can make me change my mind about apple products they may not be the best or they are the best n I love my iPhone 4s
    1. eyeseeyou's Avatar
      eyeseeyou -
      Quote Originally Posted by GeoffS4 View Post
      The point of seeing them "die" is not due to competition, it is due to copy infringement. The lack of innovation. I am sure Apple has no problem with innovations outside of their own, just don't steal it. "Commit the crime, do the time", in this case, die baby die!



      Apple does not have a problem with "smart-phones", that was your incorrect guess. The style, the interface, the whole look and feel was clear. The way the interface worked was clear. If it was not dramatic, then share with us why the iphone has come to the point it has in such a short amount of time.

      Nope, you are missing the point.
      Android fanboys always fail to mention that before the iphone was released that Android was copying Blackberries UI. Also IOS5 copied the Android style notification drop down menu. So Apple should give that back when Android gives back multi touch gestures.
    1. Shady6's Avatar
      Shady6 -
      The reason its called a stolen idea is because if you take the time to go back and look at early Android it looked just like a blackberry. It only became what it is today around the time the first iPhone started being talked about. Conveniantly at the time, Eric Schmidt was on Apples board. Not long after that, he stepped down and Android no longer looked like a blackberry. Thats an awful lot of coincidence.
    1. NegativeBeef's Avatar
      NegativeBeef -
      How the hell is android a stolen product? Now if he said Windows is a stolen product....
    1. eyeseeyou's Avatar
      eyeseeyou -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shady6 View Post
      The reason its called a stolen idea is because if you take the time to go back and look at early Android it looked just like a blackberry. It only became what it is today around the time the first iPhone started being talked about. Conveniantly at the time, Eric Schmidt was on Apples board. Not long after that, he stepped down and Android no longer looked like a blackberry. Thats an awful lot of coincidence.
      Exactly.
    1. NegativeBeef's Avatar
      NegativeBeef -
      Quote Originally Posted by whereswaldo View Post
      He said the same thing about Microsoft, look how that turned out
      We are seeing the exact same thing again with Google this time. It's amazing how history repeats itself....with Apple.

      Apple has about as much chance of destroying Android as they had with destroying Windows back in the 90's.

      Quote Originally Posted by SergeantMAC View Post
      Is that why before the release of the iPhone 4S the iPhone 4 was the most popular phone in the WORLD and the 3GS was the second most popular??????
      Hold it right there buddy. The iPhone 4 might have been the most popular SMARTphone in the world, however it was by no means the most popular phone in the world.
    1. feidhlim1986's Avatar
      feidhlim1986 -
      I think a lot of people forget that Apple have unquestionably and blatantly stolen a huge amount from the Jailbreak community. The community the tried so hard to squash. Frankly a lot of features in iOS 3.x, 4.x and 5.x have been pulled almost directly from Cydia.

      All this who stole from who nonsense is meaningless. No one is innocent of it. It's how markets work. You see a successful product and you try to replicate it and reap the benefits
    1. cocotherat's Avatar
      cocotherat -
      Everyone is using other people or companies ideas, but consumers are by no way benefiting from pointless lawsuits from apple to "protect their intellectual property". Apple feels threatened by android, and instead of trying to make better products, they are attempting to eliminate the competition. Android has taken features from iOS, but iOS has taken features from android, but all phones have pretty much the same design(rectangle with rounded corners and a screen) and it would be ridiculous if apple could copyright that(like they somehow managed with the iPad).
    1. Pepsolman's Avatar
      Pepsolman -
      Quote Originally Posted by SwatPac View Post
      Very true. But I don't see Android as "Competition" at all. Copying every idea from somebody else is not competitive. Fandroids and Apple fan boys can fight about it all they want, but in the end Android is just a cheap rip-off of ios.
      I totally agree. True competition is healthy. Straight up copying is idiotic.
    1. SergeantMAC's Avatar
      SergeantMAC -
      Quote Originally Posted by NegativeBeef View Post
      We are seeing the exact same thing again with Google this time. It's amazing how history repeats itself....with Apple.

      Apple has about as much chance of destroying Android as they had with destroying Windows back in the 90's.



      Hold it right there buddy. The iPhone 4 might have been the most popular SMARTphone in the world, however it was by no means the most popular phone in the world.
      Sorry that was what I meant to write, you are correct my friend.
    1. pcrussell50's Avatar
      pcrussell50 -
      part of the problem with all these intellectual property lawsuits is that the patent office gives out patents they have no business giving out, that end up hurting the public at large. if for example, apple has a patent on a finger-driven UI in which a finger is used for scrolling and dragging and pinching-to-zoom. that would be a fraudulently awarded patent, because those are the ONLY ways a finger-driven UI can be implemented. if such a patent were to be enforced, then it would be impossible for any other company besides apple to have a finger-driven UI, and that would be an absurd disservice to the public, (even apple fanboi's). look at it this way, if you were the wright brothers, you could (and should), patent certain aspects of your flying machine, but you should NOT be entitled to hold the patent on the concept of a winged flying machine, thereby making you the only one who is allowed to make and sell airplanes. that would be an absurd disservice to the public at large, and a competent and conscientious patent office would never award such a patent. but they seem to have done that very thing when it comes to high tech, consumer electronics.

      just so you know, i am on my third iphone, and have never owned an android phone. i take comfort in the fact that apple is feeling the pressure from android. it keeps apple motivated to be innovative and make better iphones for us. i hope windows and blackberry start coming up with some great finger-driven OS'es too, and am sad to hear that palm's great WebOS failed, (some former apple UI folks were behind that one, and it was pretty darned good).

      -peter
    1. raduga's Avatar
      raduga -
      Quote Originally Posted by pcrussell50 View Post
      part of the problem with all these intellectual property lawsuits is that the patent office gives out patents they have no business giving out, that end up hurting the public at large. if for example, apple has a patent on a finger-driven UI in which a finger is used for scrolling and dragging and pinching-to-zoom. that would be a fraudulently awarded patent, because those are the ONLY ways a finger-driven UI can be implemented. if such a patent were to be enforced, then it would be impossible for any other company besides apple to have a finger-driven UI, and that would be an absurd disservice to the public, (even apple fanboi's). look at it this way, if you were the wright brothers, you could (and should), patent certain aspects of your flying machine, but you should NOT be entitled to hold the patent on the concept of a winged flying machine, thereby making you the only one who is allowed to make and sell airplanes. that would be an absurd disservice to the public at large, and a competent and conscientious patent office would never award such a patent. but they seem to have done that very thing when it comes to high tech, consumer electronics.

      just so you know, i am on my third iphone, and have never owned an android phone. i take comfort in the fact that apple is feeling the pressure from android. it keeps apple motivated to be innovative and make better iphones for us. i hope windows and blackberry start coming up with some great finger-driven OS'es too, and am sad to hear that palm's great WebOS failed, (some former apple UI folks were behind that one, and it was pretty darned good).

      -peter
      patent reform FTW

      + fully fund the USPTO
      + hire more geniuses and fewer morons.
    1. Dorkenstein909's Avatar
      Dorkenstein909 -
      imitators create competition, and therefore are good for the consumer. I can understand why Steve Jobs is mad, but from my perspective, this just gives apple more of a reason to give me an even better product in the future! so yay android for creating competition! theres a reason monopolies are illegal
    1. pcrussell50's Avatar
      pcrussell50 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Dorkenstein909 View Post
      imitators create competition, and therefore are good for the consumer. I can understand why Steve Jobs is mad, but from my perspective, this just gives apple more of a reason to give me an even better product in the future! so yay android for creating competition! theres a reason monopolies are illegal
      i don't advocate a free-for-all. i believe in the concept of patents. nothing wrong with protecting your work with an appropriate patent. but patenting the whole concept of a finger-driven UI is NOT an appropriate patent. even if apple was granted one for that very thing.
    1. evoRC's Avatar
      evoRC -
      Quote Originally Posted by carlbgc View Post
      Failing to see how Android is the copycat when it was around before iOS, and iOS continues to copy Android features.Notification centre anyone? Apple simply refines what already exists. I love iOS, but WE are the copycats.
      Dumbasd alert.
    1. raduga's Avatar
      raduga -
      Quote Originally Posted by Dorkenstein909 View Post
      imitators create competition, and therefore are good for the consumer. I can understand why Steve Jobs is mad, but from my perspective, this just gives apple more of a reason to give me an even better product in the future! so yay android for creating competition! theres a reason monopolies are illegal
      I don't think he's mad anymore.
    1. NegativeBeef's Avatar
      NegativeBeef -
      Also you have to wonder why Apple never went after WebOS even though they are much more similar to each other than they are to Android. Could it be because Apple ripped off Palm? No way!!!
    1. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
      iPhoneThereforeIAm -
      I really don't get the whole need to hate the competition thing.
      I have Apple and Android devices, and appreciate the strengths of both.

      My iPhone-4 now languishes as in-car internet radio, while my Sony X12 is my weapon of choice for all other requirements.
      Why ?
      Because Android allows me to do everything I need … without constraint.
      And because it has a better sceen than the i-4 (in addition to certain other hardware advantages …. battery anyone ?).

      While Android may not be the polished product that iOS is, when well implemented (as it is in the X12 Arc), it’s more than sufficient to requirements.

      iOS’s limitations will ultimately prove its own undoing as Android advances.
      Yes, there are good reasons for Ios limitations – but Apple needs to actively strive to achieve a better balance between stability and freedom if it’s not to be left in Android’s wake.