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  • Are Some Jailbreakers Losing Their Unlimited Data Plans from AT&T?


    According to published reports surfacing Thursday, AT&T is reportedly ready to begin canning the unlimited data plans of subscribers who have jailbroken their iPhones and tether/hotspot off of AT&T's no-longer offered unlimited data plans.

    Our friends at 9to5Mac have been hearing from readers who claim to be possessed of the knowledge that Thursday, August 11th 2011, will bring with it an end to unlimited data for those who commit the offense described above.

    "If you use MyWi or any tethering on the phone or using the phone as a modem, AT&T will automatically change your unlimited plan to a 2Gb tethering plan for 45 dollars without the customers consent," the article reads. "This is for those who received emails or texts about the use of tethering without an AT&T tethering plan."

    AT&T, however, reportedly gave the offenders in question an opportunity to "stop tethering and keep their current plan" before the unlimited data rug was pulled out from beneath them.

    As it now stands, AT&T is confirming this report, but won't pinpoint August 11th as the definitive date for this unlimited data Armageddon. One AT&T rep is quoted as saying: "Our goal here is fairness for all of our customers. (This impacts a only small percentage of our smartphone customer base.)"

    Sources: AT&T, 9to5Mac
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Are Some Jailbreakers Losing Their Unlimited Data Plans from AT&T? started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 131 Comments
    1. mmaboi21's Avatar
      mmaboi21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoV View Post
      In all seriousness, can someone explain to me the need to use 10+GB/month? I understand the general (though a bit unrealistic, probably) gripe of "unlimited means unlimited" - I'm just wondering personally what one does - or DOESN'T do - to use that much data on a smartphone. I've never gone over 1GB in a month, and let my wife tell it, I'm on my phones constantly.

      I'm in Japan now, so this situation isn't affecting me in the slightest. Hopefully, things will be smoothed out when I return. I haven't really been following the data and carrier wars - I'm just wondering if this is indeed a shady move on ATT's part (though probably clearly stated in their lengthy ToA), or more a slap to the back of the head for "those" out there that are overindulging... maybe both?
      Data hogs bro. I can understand streaming Netflix every single day for 8 hours and pandora. Realistically not a lot of people do that(if you do I don't understand how most people would have the downtime for that) way less have the time for it.
    1. hadzo's Avatar
      hadzo -
      Quote Originally Posted by mmaboi21 View Post
      Data hogs bro. I can understand streaming Netflix every single day for 8 hours and pandora. Realistically not a lot of people do that(if you do I don't understand how most people would have the downtime for that) way less have the time for it.
      If you were to stream Netflix for 8 hours a day you would be pulling roughly around 74GB per month! On average NetFlix movie is 250-350MB of full stream. You should reconsider the possibility of someone having the "time" to watch a movie (at least) per day. That will bring you around 9GB per month just for NetFlix data alone! Granted most people will not watch 1 movie every day it will be more like; two to three moves today skip a day or two than watch another one or two plus some kids shows or what not. Come to think of it AT&T hasn't bitched at all until these streaming apps came to life, such as NetFlix and Hulu ... The point is that it's relatively easy to rack up data with all of this new streaming apps, weather they are for music (which are filled with adds) or NetFlix and similar.

      I don't understand how can someone claim that they are on their phone "constantly" and only use 1GB per month? Well before I shoot my self in the leg, let me say that those people probably don't use any of the apps mentioned above.

      In reality there I see no problem with company/individual/provider chainging their mind on the nature of service provided. Sure! AT&T feels people are hoging their network OK; they feel that "unlimited" is not "unlimited" but rather "limited" but sold as "unlimited" for a good sale... so they want to cut that out... O the Fu*k Kay!!! than but WTF is up with "you must have data if you want iphone, but the data we feel like you should have" WHY NOT GIVE THE OPTION NOT TO HAVE DATA!
    1. Browning151's Avatar
      Browning151 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ramprat View Post
      I have called and talked to several people. They all say there is nothing I can do to avoid the change. Their system says I have tethered even though I have not, and their system IS Judge, Jury and Executioner! I have watched movies through the netflix app (although not anymore due to their frivolous price increase), surf the web a ton, and have the Justin.tv app to watch some of my sports. I use anywhere from 500MB up to 3.5GB on average. Only once have I exceeded 5GB. But all my complaints fall on deaf ears because it differs from what their system says. They have said I have received FINAL notice and because it was the final notice the change is locked in. Great way to treat a decade long customer!
      Went through this whole thing back when AT&T sent the second round of texts/emails, ended up getting my plan changed because I tethered a few days past the "cut off" date, yes I know my own fault. After going around and around with the "tethering" specialist department denying that I was tethering, I had completely stopped and deleted MyWi at this point, and them refusing to escalate my call to a superior I was told the only thing I could do was call the president's office. So I looked up the number for the president's office of investor relations, called and very politely explained my situation. The lady there looked at the account and saw I had a business discount so she took my information down and sent it to their "executive response team" who called me back within an hour. Spoke with that rep, he advised me to call back to the tethering dept. because there was no reason that they should not escalate my call to a superior. After doing what he said and getting nowhere again I called him back and he made notes about the reps that I spoke with, checked over my account and said to let the change go through, call him back the day after it changed and he would put my unlimited plan back as long as he didn't see any indications of tethering in the mean time. Called back after my plan changed, he put the unlimited plan back on with no problems. Since then I have not tethered and have not had a problem at all. If you want to try and keep your unlimited plan you might want to try that, although I'm not sure how well it would work out if you don't have a corporate discount on your account since you probably wouldn't get forwarded to the "executive response team."
    1. ActionMax09's Avatar
      ActionMax09 -
      Quote Originally Posted by exNavy View Post
      All things are relative. I'd consider your usage to be too much. I use maybe 50MB a month. Bottom line: people using gigs on a phone deserve to get hammered.
      I'm guessing you do not have an iPhone. Jailbreak or not the iPhone is always pushing notifications, checking emails, etc. This is what it was designed for, therefore I think that they should not change our plan if w are tethering using mywi as-longest we do not pass our data plan. An average iPhone user utilizes about 800 megabytes. I use about 200 and hardly ever use the 3G to surf web becouse I have wifi at home and everywhere I go. I do not tether but this is bull crap...
    1. mmaboi21's Avatar
      mmaboi21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by hadzo View Post
      If you were to stream Netflix for 8 hours a day you would be pulling roughly around 74GB per month! On average NetFlix movie is 250-350MB of full stream. You should reconsider the possibility of someone having the "time" to watch a movie (at least) per day. That will bring you around 9GB per month just for NetFlix data alone! Granted most people will not watch 1 movie every day it will be more like; two to three moves today skip a day or two than watch another one or two plus some kids shows or what not. Come to think of it AT&T hasn't bitched at all until these streaming apps came to life, such as NetFlix and Hulu ... The point is that it's relatively easy to rack up data with all of this new streaming apps, weather they are for music (which are filled with adds) or NetFlix and similar.[/B]
      I felt the passion in that bro.

      I was giving an unrealistic assumption, nothing more nothing less.
    1. ActionMax09's Avatar
      ActionMax09 -
      Quote Originally Posted by darthdurden View Post
      Silliest comment so far.
      I said the same thing. There is no way you use 50 megabytes on an iPhone. It's about 2.5 megabytes just to check your email using the built in app. Imagine going to safari loading up email and then all the adds plus links u accidentally click.
    1. ChicagoV's Avatar
      ChicagoV -
      Quote Originally Posted by hadzo View Post
      I don't understand how can someone claim that they are on their phone "constantly" and only use 1GB per month? Well before I shoot my self in the leg, let me say that those people probably don't use any of the apps mentioned above.
      Pretty much... and actually I said I've never even used that much. I think I have Pandora on my phone, or Tune Radio. One of them. That's it. Used it once or twice. Guess I have nowhere near as much downtime at work to stream hours of movies on my phone - must be nice. Any serious downloading is done at home via wifi. But I can see how apps like those would eat up data. I'm just surprised that some people actually do that much streaming on their phones - away from wifi.

      As far as the other stuff, yeah... I can see why some people are upset. I guess we'll all see how things play out over the next few months or so.
    1. Ramprat's Avatar
      Ramprat -
      Quote Originally Posted by Browning151 View Post
      Went through this whole thing back when AT&T sent the second round of texts/emails, ended up getting my plan changed because I tethered a few days past the "cut off" date, yes I know my own fault. After going around and around with the "tethering" specialist department denying that I was tethering, I had completely stopped and deleted MyWi at this point, and them refusing to escalate my call to a superior I was told the only thing I could do was call the president's office. So I looked up the number for the president's office of investor relations, called and very politely explained my situation. The lady there looked at the account and saw I had a business discount so she took my information down and sent it to their "executive response team" who called me back within an hour. Spoke with that rep, he advised me to call back to the tethering dept. because there was no reason that they should not escalate my call to a superior. After doing what he said and getting nowhere again I called him back and he made notes about the reps that I spoke with, checked over my account and said to let the change go through, call him back the day after it changed and he would put my unlimited plan back as long as he didn't see any indications of tethering in the mean time. Called back after my plan changed, he put the unlimited plan back on with no problems. Since then I have not tethered and have not had a problem at all. If you want to try and keep your unlimited plan you might want to try that, although I'm not sure how well it would work out if you don't have a corporate discount on your account since you probably wouldn't get forwarded to the "executive response team."
      I do have a discount through United Airlines. It's worth a shot. PM me the info if you still have it. They never told me anything like that except the part about there not being any superior available. They said they were my account manager on this matter and that was the only person I could talk to.
    1. Browning151's Avatar
      Browning151 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ramprat View Post
      I do have a discount through United Airlines. It's worth a shot. PM me the info if you still have it. They never told me anything like that except the part about there not being any superior available. They said they were my account manager on this matter and that was the only person I could talk to.
      They told me the whole "when I pick up the phone I'm the manager you get" spiel too, I just kept pushing and finally said "so you're telling me that there's not one single person in the entire company of AT&T that I can talk to about this other than you?" and she said I could call "the president's office" and still refused to give me any sort of number for them or any information on how to reach them. I'll look and see if I still have the reps number written down that I was assigned to.
    1. hadzo's Avatar
      hadzo -
      Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoV View Post
      Pretty much... and actually I said I've never even used that much. I think I have Pandora on my phone, or Tune Radio. One of them. That's it. Used it once or twice. Guess I have nowhere near as much downtime at work to stream hours of movies on my phone - must be nice. Any serious downloading is done at home via wifi. But I can see how apps like those would eat up data. I'm just surprised that some people actually do that much streaming on their phones - away from wifi.

      As far as the other stuff, yeah... I can see why some people are upset. I guess we'll all see how things play out over the next few months or so.
      Ok cool enough

      Weather people use wifi at home or not is irrelevant, we are subscribing to a service and using it in legit way. AT&T (and many on this forum) may not agree that it's righteous to stream NetFlix of your cell data but that too is irrelevant. You see, it is them that sold "unlimited" data plan all we are doing is utilizing our service with one of the most popular streaming entertainments tools on the market. To demand we slow down is ethically incorrect, I mean what's next new streaming plan for 100$ 4GB lol

      Edit: that too would be ok so as long as they give you a way out! But they don't instead it a mist data plan for smart phones/ why? They function perfectly well with out cell data... There's where the idea of being ripped off comes from. Their position is " we aren't making enough money per bandwidth sooo, we will cap your unlimited plan, change it if you don't like to a plan that's more $ per GB and you have no choice but leave and pay ETF, seriously its really a joke anymore... I'm surprised so many people let them selves be dry rammed so much....

      btw, that 200mb for 15$ is also criminal, it's itrapment for sure, it is way to easy to cross that been of irbid occasional email and surf...

      Quote Originally Posted by mmaboi21 View Post
      I felt the passion in that bro.

      I was giving an unrealistic assumption, nothing more nothing less.
      Well, I guess not much of an "unrealistic" assumption any more, yes?

    1. dalton4life's Avatar
      dalton4life -
      It's weird because, I've never received any warnings emails, texts or calls. Still, I've used MyWi at least 5-10 times a month for the past 2 years. I'm generally in the 3-4GB range a month in data usage. Probably only 500MB of that is due to tethering. I have no tether warning on my account and I've spiked up to 6-7GB a few times.
    1. jl1's Avatar
      jl1 -
      Well Here it is! [IMG][/IMG]
    1. Ramprat's Avatar
      Ramprat -
      I am talking to a good friend at a local AT&T store who is a manager of the store. He is working to try to help me out but here is his opinion.

      "My speculation on this, is that tethering or not, AT&T can tell whether if your phone is jailbroken. Depending on the type of jailbreak used, they code the data that is being sent back to AT&T, so that previously, AT&T could not tell if you were tethering. The way AT&T is combating this, is they have figured out the difference between jailbroken data usage and factory data usage. My brother has received the same messages as you, as he does not tether but he still does use a high amount of data. He is jailbroken on his iPhone, but he has many other ways of acquiring wifi that is faster than his mywi on his phone. Make sense?"

      So if that is true, and I believe it is, then they are targeting everyone who has JB'd their phone. My opinion is if that being the case, with the supreme court ruling that jailbreaking is not illegal.......class action lawsuit?? Just my opinion.

      Plus I found this article online and wonder if anyone has tried it and confirms this works.

      http://appleno1.com/2011/06/how-to-g...ited-data-plan

      Sorry guys, the link doesn't seem to be working so here is the gist of it..,

      The Process
      The first thing you need to do is obtain a First Generation iPhone, commonly known as the iPhone 2G and how we will refer to it from here on out.
      Once you've obtained an iPhone 2G, you'll want to give it a full restore in iTunes. You can do this with your SIM card installed or without. You'll have to put your SIM card in later anyways, so if you don't need to use your actual phone while the process completes, then install your SIM and save yourself a step later.
      Once the restore has completed, iTunes will bring you to the phone activation screen (assuming your SIM card is installed, if it's not, disconnect your iPhone, insert the SIM card and reconnect your iPhone). Fill in the required account info and proceed. Whatever options you choose during activation won't really matter as certain account features you already have will override, like unlimited family messaging and the likes. As well, the great part about this portion of the process is that Unlimited data is non-optional - At the end of the activation process, iTunes should tell you something like, "You'll receive an email when your activation is complete". Once you've got the email, all is well and you now have an Unlimited Data plan.
      You can verify this many ways like dialing *DATA# from your phone. You'll then receive a text message with details about your data plan where it will indicate you have unlimited data. You can also log-in to your AT&T account online and go to the features portion of your account to see unlimited data for whichever phone line you used during activation.
    1. KraXik's Avatar
      KraXik -
      Lulz at American carriers. All I can eat data in the UK.
    1. GoTiK's Avatar
      GoTiK -
      Quote Originally Posted by Spazmonic View Post
      Please do change my plan, breach of contract. Thank you for the free canceling of your service. I'll gladly pay someone else $215/mo. for my 4 lines of service.
      DITTOOOOO !!!!!
      $260/mo for 5 lines (all iphones)
    1. cranie's Avatar
      cranie -
      Quote Originally Posted by whereswaldo View Post
      $45 for 2GB? I'm lucky I'm not American. I get 6GB for $30 with Rogers in Canada
      Yes.. but the downside....you live in Canada
    1. nimavafi's Avatar
      nimavafi -
      Quote Originally Posted by jmcgee_jr View Post
      I've said it before and I will say it again, HOW CAN THIS BE LEGAL! If you pay for data it should be just like it is with home internet, they shouldnt be able to tell you what you can or cant hook up to it to use. It's just like back in the old days where cable companies could charge you per TV hooked up to the cable line not per household. It's a shame that someone with the $$ and some good lawyers took these damn companies to court.
      Sure they do..its just a bit different. They charge you monthly for those digital cable boxes/per tv. sure you can get basic cable if you go straight into the coax, but if you want the service (channels) that you pay for on all TV's, you will incur a cost per tv.

      And in terms of legality, the user contract that you sign with ATT has a clause in it that states they can change the contract at any time, to their discretion, without the explicit permission of the user.

      Cable companies and Cell phone companies have pretty much the same nasty business practices to screw the consumer. And only because there is so little competition in those markets.
    1. mmaboi21's Avatar
      mmaboi21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by hadzo View Post
      Ok cool enough

      Weather people use wifi at home or not is irrelevant, we are subscribing to a service and using it in legit way. AT&T (and many on this forum) may not agree that it's righteous to stream NetFlix of your cell data but that too is irrelevant. You see, it is them that sold "unlimited" data plan all we are doing is utilizing our service with one of the most popular streaming entertainments tools on the market. To demand we slow down is ethically incorrect, I mean what's next new streaming plan for 100$ 4GB lol

      Edit: that too would be ok so as long as they give you a way out! But they don't instead it a mist data plan for smart phones/ why? They function perfectly well with out cell data... There's where the idea of being ripped off comes from. Their position is " we aren't making enough money per bandwidth sooo, we will cap your unlimited plan, change it if you don't like to a plan that's more $ per GB and you have no choice but leave and pay ETF, seriously its really a joke anymore... I'm surprised so many people let them selves be dry rammed so much....

      btw, that 200mb for 15$ is also criminal, it's itrapment for sure, it is way to easy to cross that been of irbid occasional email and surf...



      Well, I guess not much of an "unrealistic" assumption any more, yes?

      Lol you got that right.
    1. rryyddeerr's Avatar
      rryyddeerr -
      Quote Originally Posted by vinaygoel2000 View Post
      To all those complaining about AT&T being greedy and all, ready your effin contract. The unlimited data is for your iPhone. Not for your laptop and your desktop and your ipod touch and your friend's ipod touch and your girl friend's laptop......

      Where do u guys live? Dont u have wifi or u just dont use wifi for some reason (just like my boss). He'll be in the office (with wifi) and not connect to it. I have absolutely no idea why. I dont wanna get fired so I never asked him.
      he's streaming porn and doesn't want anyone to be able to tell.
    1. llango's Avatar
      llango -
      Quote Originally Posted by Game2Freak View Post
      Basically At&t has a special APN used for data tethering and MyWi uses it making it easy for big blue to know who’s tethering and whos not. It is reported that TetherMe and PDANet actually use the normal Data APN for tethering so At&t can’t see your sneaky little self unofficially tethering, both apps are available through cydia for a small fee. Check em out if you want to avoid the expensive At&t tax…

      Either use TeatherMe/PDANet and make sure the appropriate settings are on or keep MyWi and edit your Teather APN so that it matches your data APN.
      I use teatherMe and got the text, when I called there's no going back I'm enrolled on the new plan F*** ATT