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  • AT&T's 4G Network on Target for Next Summer



    AT&T is on schedule and on pace to roll out its fourth-generation high-speed wireless network by the middle of next year. Should AT&T still, by then, remain the exclusive US carrier of the iPhone, Apple's fifth generation iPhone (likely to be released next summer) may very well debut in unison with AT&T's faster-than-ever network.

    AT&T Mobility will launch commercial LTE service by mid-2011, and will cover between 70 million and 75 million POPs by the end of next year, a top executive said.
    This week at the Bank of America Merrill Lynch 2010 Media, Communications & Entertainment Conference, AT&T Operations CEO John Stankey (the "top executive" referenced) said "the company is actively working with its primary LTE vendor partners--Ericsson and Alcatel-Lucent--to get the network ready for launch." At present, AT&T is "conducting LTE trials" in Baltimore and Dallas, two locations where the carrier has been known to perform field tests.

    According to Stankey, AT&T may very well cough up as as much as $700 million on its LTE network this year, with plans to "go far beyond that" next year, an obvious jab at the competition. Verizon, after all, is working on its own LTE network to debut later this year and cover 100 million POPs.

    Stankey also touched on AT&T's 3G network. AT&T is readying a nationwide HSPA+ upgrade for this year, which AT&T executives have said will allow the carrier to deliver real-world download speeds of 7 Mbps. In the meantime, the carrier continues to upgrade backhaul to cell sites it has upgraded to HSPA 7.2 technology.
    Adding that he's never happy with AT&T's service and always striving to improve the quality of the carrier's service, Stankey also noted that positive changes should be expected for later this year on AT&T's 3G network. AT&T is currently readying a nationwide HSPA+ upgrade before the end of 2010, which AT&T executives have said "will allow the carrier to deliver real-world download speeds of 7 Mbps."

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: AT&T's 4G Network on Target for Next Summer started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 65 Comments
    1. NooK's Avatar
      NooK -
      Quote Originally Posted by saunupe1911 View Post
      Ok could care less what they call it. Heck, call it AirFart for all I care. What's the speed going to be like? Will there be a big difference between 3.9 and 4G. I'm wanting a network with at least 200mbps speeds, but STABLE. That's the key word. All of these carriers need to provide STABLE speeds. Cellular data speeds fluctuate like Wall Street.
      I think there will be some difference in speed between LTE and 4G but speed is not the only thing. Latency is another big issue that 4G sets of to improve. I don't know exact details about all differences but what I can tell you is that I currently live in a city where LTE is deployed and it has been measured to have a peak of around 80 mbps and an average of 33 mbps. Personally I think that is good enough for most ppl.
    1. whereswaldo's Avatar
      whereswaldo -
      How fast is 4g? is it faster than HSDPA+?
    1. NooK's Avatar
      NooK -
      Oh and another thing for those talking about IPhone 4G.

      LTE and 4G both have an all ip based network. No more calls going through dedicated circuit switch network. This poses a problem because no longer you have a standard for phone calls, anything can be used for making calls from skype, sip solutions to operator specific solutions.

      This makes it hard for phone makers because they may have to comply with lots of different standards which may be impossible or pick one (or a few) and risk users having limited service on some conditions (like calling someone on a different network using a different standard or when roaming on an operator using a different standard). There are currently discussions ongoing on what should the voice-over-LTE standard be however nothing is decided yet.

      This is one of the reasons there are virtually non existent 4G phones (the evo 4G uses wimax, uncertain how voice is done) and there most likely will be none until this issue is fixed.

      Quote Originally Posted by whereswaldo View Post
      How fast is 4g? is it faster than HSDPA+?
      See my post above yours. This is what we currently get in the LTE network (So called 4G by the media) here in Sweden.
    1. i.Annie's Avatar
      i.Annie -
      So I'm wondering, since I switched to AT&T from T-Mobile, I get 3G speeds now on my iP4--I'm super satisfied and excited at how fast my Internet is--if 4G is the in thing now like 3G was, how fast do we need to go? If 4G is faster than what I already have, will there be something faster than 4G? Or do you think 4G is fast enough for us to be satisfied? Cuz I really can't see why I need anything faster than 3G as it loads everything on my phone nearly instantly.
    1. valkraider's Avatar
      valkraider -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      "LTE" is 4th generation wireless technology.
      This article sums it up nicely:

      Essay: 3G and me

      Selling you 3G well, thats a lot easier to live up to. And it changes every year. So dont tell me how many Gs your new phone has. Weve loved and lost so many Gs at this point. Tell me you got a new phone where you pay to get 1 Mbps and 100 ms rtt to major exchange points. When the market moves forward enough to make that a reality, thatll be a generation worth celebrating.
      Essay: 3G and me
    1. klouud's Avatar
      klouud -
      expand the 3G network and increase bandwidth so we don't have to have download caps
    1. Sofaxkingxhi's Avatar
      Sofaxkingxhi -
      Quote Originally Posted by Michael Essany View Post



      AT&T is on schedule and on pace to roll out its fourth-generation high-speed wireless network by the middle of next year. Should AT&T still, by then, remain the exclusive US carrier of the iPhone, Apple's fifth generation iPhone (likely to be released next summer) may very well debut in unison with AT&T's faster-than-ever network.



      This week at the Bank of America Merrill Lynch 2010 Media, Communications & Entertainment Conference, AT&T Operations CEO John Stankey (the "top executive" referenced) said "the company is actively working with its primary LTE vendor partners--Ericsson and Alcatel-Lucent--to get the network ready for launch." At present, AT&T is "conducting LTE trials" in Baltimore and Dallas, two locations where the carrier has been known to perform field tests.

      According to Stankey, AT&T may very well cough up as as much as $700 million on its LTE network this year, with plans to "go far beyond that" next year, an obvious jab at the competition. Verizon, after all, is working on its own LTE network to debut later this year and cover 100 million POPs.


      Adding that he's never happy with AT&T's service and always striving to improve the quality of the carrier's service, Stankey also noted that positive changes should be expected for later this year on AT&T's 3G network. AT&T is currently readying a nationwide HSPA+ upgrade before the end of 2010, which AT&T executives have said "will allow the carrier to deliver real-world download speeds of 7 Mbps."

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      Im guessing that you would have to purchase a new phone to take advantage of the 4g network. Its absolutely robbery that they do this **** to continue making money. Instead of taking care of all the customers they have and do upgrades to the iphone
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Damn, I hope it comes to my area quickly
    1. NooK's Avatar
      NooK -
      Quote Originally Posted by Anniex423 View Post
      Cuz I really can't see why I need anything faster than 3G as it loads everything on my phone nearly instantly.
      And I am certain people said the same a few years ago when all they could do properly was maybe check emails and such in their mobile. As new technology is developed, the Market is able to create devices with more functionality capable utilising and even demanding more of the network.

      Personally I would say that we have a good enough network when I can give up my fixed line at home and just hook my desktop to a mobile subscription permanently.
    1. Antman217's Avatar
      Antman217 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ivel View Post
      Interesting although I really hope iphone moves to tmobile
      Yeah so can never get high speed 3G I just tried the Internet on my uncles mytouch 3G, it made the iPhone first gen speed seem like an iPhone 4 LMAO
    1. NooK's Avatar
      NooK -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sofaxkingxhi View Post
      Im guessing that you would have to purchase a new phone to take advantage of the 4g network. Its absolutely robbery that they do this **** to continue making money. Instead of taking care of all the customers they have and do upgrades to the iphone
      No offense but that is dumb thinking. 4G is different technology which requires different hardware.

      They couldn't make existing phones work on a LTE network via a software update even if they wanted to.

      That's like flaming computer maker for not giving a software upgrade to make your 3.5 disk reader work with CDs.
    1. Sofaxkingxhi's Avatar
      Sofaxkingxhi -
      Quote Originally Posted by NooK View Post
      No offense but that is dumb thinking. 4G is different technology which requires different hardware.

      They couldn't make existing phones work on a LTE network via a software update even if they wanted to.

      That's like flaming computer maker for not giving a software upgrade to make your 3.5 disk reader work with CDs.
      Reread needle dic i said give upgrades.
    1. NooK's Avatar
      NooK -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sofaxkingxhi View Post
      Reread needle dic i said give upgrades.
      You mean for free? Yeah cause that would have made a lot more sense....
    1. l0k0's Avatar
      l0k0 -
      Bought freaking time we "may" get a real Iphone out of the deal.
    1. Nickaroni22's Avatar
      Nickaroni22 -
      Sounds Good!!! I've never had any issues with AT&T either. I've been a customer for over ten years, there's a stretch of road on my way to Richmond, VA there I have no service for about 5 miles that's about it.
    1. wolverinemarky's Avatar
      wolverinemarky -
      Quote Originally Posted by valkraider View Post
      How about before they start implementing "4G"** - they finish rolling out their "3G"**

      So that they have "3G"** coverage on their entire network. "4G"** will be nice but if the instant I go 3cm outside a city limits I drop to Edge or worse - then it's kind of annoying. To me, having "3G"** on the entire network would be much more rewarding than having "4G"** in 10 cities...

      **we are actually on either 10G or 2G depending on how you define a "G" in cellular service technology. It is fairly meaningless anymore except for marketing speak...
      i totally agree with u i live in small town and the town near me has 3G in spots but u go a block or so u lose it. So give me 3G everywhere i get signal and then worry about the 4G.
    1. pacmac's Avatar
      pacmac -
      time for 4G battle...i dont really care much due to my area has fast 3G network..but this good news
    1. zozodouce's Avatar
      zozodouce -
      i'm in new york and i never had any issues with AT&T for two years now.to me AT&T internet speed is faster than the rest.
    1. ro0oney's Avatar
      ro0oney -
      does that mean we're finally gonna have a 4g iphone?
    1. VDubJay's Avatar
      VDubJay -
      I think they need to expand 3G service before anything! I still have a 75 miles radius to drive before I can get any life of 3G service!