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    Thank you to everyone who participated! The members below were randomly drawn using www.random.org, and are winners of a FREE PwnTunes license, courtousy of SpiritOfLogic!


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    Every once in a while, a developer comes along and reminds us why we jailbreak:
    Because with freedom, nothing is impossible.

    SpiritOfLogic, the developer behind iRealSMS, has just proven this once again. Meet PwnTunes, the latest in what is sure to become yet another staple app of jailbreakers everywhere.

    PwnTunes' main feature is two-fold. It first enables "real" raw USB disk access, thumbdrive style. In the root of the now-accessible disk, a drop folder is created for dropping music you'd like to import. Secondly, PwnTunes adds itself as a plugin to the native iPhone Music Player app, and upon launch, syncs music from your drop folder directly into your iPhone music library.

    Voila! It's that simple. Finally, we have an elegant, on-the-go iTunes-less importing solution!



    In addition to its' main feature, PwnTunes boasts additional abilities as well. Your phone is now raw-access enabled, so you can add files (anything, not just music) to it directly using no special software, very much like a thumb drive. On top of that, they've added the ability to copy normal iTunes-synced songs off the phone, via raw-access mode. They've even made the filenames pretty via ID3 tags instead of the normal ABCD.mp3 convention as well! Even the Downloads folder used by several applications is mapped, for easy moving of songs. SpiritOfLogic truely has thought of everything here.

    There is one easy-to-overcome hiccup for XP users, which is driver-related. XP drivers do not allow writing to the iPhone device without a tweak, but the developer has conveniently added this tweak to the read-only section of your new iPhone USB Disk, so you can install the fix immediately. (See graphic below)



    iPhone (and especially Windows users) rejoice! Zero setup iTunes-less syncing is finally upon us!

    PwnTunes is available now for purchase in the Cydia store (via the BigBoss repo) and directly on PwnTunes.net. It is unfortunately one of the more costly "jailbreak apps", weighing in at almost $13. Here's hoping they lower it, but this writer paid it gladly.


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    Update:
    It appears that due to PTP restrictions on Macs, writing to the phone does not work without "extra software".
    "Sadly due to Apple's restrictive implementation of the Picture Transfer Protocol (iPhoto) currently PwnTunes does not work on a Mac without extra software."
    I've emailed the developer for recommendations on what this "software" might be. I believe it may still work on other devices like gaming consoles, however. I will look into this further and post my results. Stay tuned

    Update 2:
    Some quirks I've noticed:
    • When adding or deleting music, the iPod app exits. (This is necessary for how it functions)
    • The files you are adding via drag-and-drop must have ID3 tags to be sorted properly in iPod.app. If they do not, the filename will be treated as the Song Title, and it will only appear by looking under Songs.
      Windows itself has a mechanism for quickly adding ID3 tags to files that are missing them. This must be done when files are on the COMPUTER. ID3 tags cannot be edited once they're on the phone. Right-click the problem file, select Properties, and go to the Details Tab. At least "Contributing Artists" and "Song Title" should be present for songs to be properly categorized when imported. Note that "Contributing Artists" in Windows is equivalent to the "Artist" field on the iPod. Filling in just "Artist" via Windows will not work.
      To mass-view (and maybe mass-edit), you can enable the Contributing Artists and Song Title columns under Windows' Details view.
    • Files cannot be renamed, nor can ID3 tags be viewed once files are on the phone. They must be moved to the computer to be renamed or re-tagged, then moved back to the phone. Files can be deleted from the phone directly, however.

    Update 3:
    I spoke with SpiritOfLogic, and he liked the article and gave us 5 licenses to give away! See the top of the article for information.

    He also informed me that I was mistaken about the ID3 tag quirk initially. I have updated my notes above to reflect its' actual functionality. Files without ID3 tags are not skipped when importing. Instead, the entire filename is treated as the Song Title, and the Artist and Album fields are left blank. This means that those songs can only be found under the Songs list in iPod.app. Try searching for your filename under Songs, and it should show up.

    Finally, he is not aware of any software yet that will easily add MTP functionality to OSX, thus the lack of Mac support. He had this to say:

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritOfLogic
    The answer is sadly that to our knowledge at the moment there is none for Mac that works directly. There is the project libmtp (libmtp: Project) which provides an MTP interface to any UNIX operating system. (MTP is the compatible successor to PTP.)

    For Linux there are a lot implementations – I am not sure if they work with iPhone/PwnTunes though – this would be something Linux experienced users will find out.

    Currently it seems that there is only one implementation, XNJB (XNJB) for Mac. It was developed for the Creative Nomad Players. Right now it does not recognize the iPhone properly. This is most likely due to the different folder structure. I am currently trying to get in contact with the developers of XNJB to determine if they are interested in supporting iPhone/PwnTunes.

    Considering this I think help from the community could fasten this – some emails in their inbox asking for iPhone support will certainly give them motivation
    Any experts out there willing to help or who have found solutions are welcome to PM me to update the article.
    _______________________

    Original Contest Rules: (now over)
    SpiritOfLogic really liked our article and feedback, and has decided to reward us with 5 FREE licenses of PwnTunes!

    For anyone who comments after me with the phrase "Go PwnTunes!" as the first line, you will be entered into the drawing.
    I will run this drawing for one week, ending 12:00 noon PDT on Friday, May 28th. As a reward to active members of our community, I will restrict this to those who have accumulated at least 10 posts to ModMyI. Do not spam any threads, including this one. I WILL find out and exclude you

    Winners will be PM'ed for their iPhone info at the end of the drawing.

    Good luck all!
    This article was originally published in forum thread: PwnTunes started by reanimationxp View original post
    Comments 265 Comments
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by cadsii View Post
      seriously i though we all jailbroke to get FREE apps and get away from all this PAID BS, now your going to swap itunes for pwntunes pay 13 dollars, which is crazy considering games like real racing are 9.99$ and take 10 times as long to develop.....

      sorry but i didnt jailbreak my phone to PAY more money for something i can do for free already, and this is for xp users, they might buy it they are not as smart as the mac users on here.... maybe your itunes runs like crap cause your running windows, i run it on my mac and i have no delays or waiting
      Great point!!! I really cant stand when people say "Well, you spent $400 or more on an iPhone/Pod/Pad and you cant buy a little $10 app?!? Stop being cheap!!" Really!?!?!? What ever happened to doing things or not doing things strictly off of GP (General Principle). Of course we can buy the app, but if we pay $13 for this app, then the 'next big app all jailbreakers need' will cost $26, then $52, etc. Especially when we have a free program that can do what this one does. And frankly, if importing music/pics/files are that important, just get a cheap flash drive. But to each his own i guess!!
    1. Gsr_Hatch's Avatar
      Gsr_Hatch -
      Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
      People complaining about $13 just remind me of how many kids post here.
      I agree 100%. That is seriously about what I pay everyday for lunch..I mean quit griping about a measly $13 lol.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jahooba View Post
      The thing that gets me is when he said, "the latest in what is sure to become yet another staple app of jailbreakers everywhere."

      I doubt that VERY much, considering this app/ mod is USD $10. Maybe there's a Senator's son out there that can afford such a "luxury" app, but the common jailbreaker will just keep using iTunes. You know, the FREE iTunes...
      Have you ever used iRealSMS? SpiritofLogic may have higher prices for his apps than most, but he also has much higher quality apps and by far the best customer interaction I've ever seen on any of the apps. They are regularily pushing out updates and tweeking the app to meet the customers requests. They've got a messageboard dedicated to the app that is filled with good information (unlike most app specific boards that have 3 or 4 threads and only 7 or 8 trolls). I can guarantee you will be getting your money's worth when you purchase his apps. What iRealSMS started out as and what it is now are worlds apart. I can only imagine what he will do with this app once he spends more time on it and gains a good amount of customer feedback. I have a feeling he'll, in time, incorporate a wireless feature to this as well.

      Quote Originally Posted by ninthchamber99 View Post
      Great point!!! I really cant stand when people say "Well, you spent $400 or more on an iPhone/Pod/Pad and you cant buy a little $10 app?!? Stop being cheap!!" Really!?!?!? What ever happened to doing things or not doing things strictly off of GP (General Principle). Of course we can buy the app, but if we pay $13 for this app, then the 'next big app all jailbreakers need' will cost $26, then $52, etc. Especially when we have a free program that can do what this one does. And frankly, if importing music/pics/files are that important, just get a cheap flash drive. But to each his own i guess!!
      I think you have missed the reason behind jailbreaking. It's all about giving the person freedom over their own phone (or ipod). One of the main reasons I jailbroke my phone was so I would be able to add great features like this to it if I so desire. Features like these would only be pipedreams if we had to have Apple approve an app such as this (or hell, even their QuickReply SMS). Jailbreaking was never created to get stuff for free (those who do are flat out cheap, plain and simple); it was about getting stuff that a restrictive company wanted to keep from their customers.

      Your ending is just moronic Just get a cheap flash drive? How much do those cost these days? Oh, about the same (and in many cases more) than this app. Throw in the fact that you've got essentially up to a 14-30 gb flash drive there for $13 compared to the usual 4gb or 8gb drives you can find these days for that price and your logic is flat out wrong.
    1. CZroe's Avatar
      CZroe -
      Quote Originally Posted by reanimationxp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by CZroe View Post
      Plug in? How about a WMA plugin that works like a video frameserver? Video frameservers allow a video editing program to edit an unsupported format by creating a 0 or 1KB file that appears to be an uncompressed AVI while an interim program serves the decoded frames. Something similar could allow the iPhone to support WMA and subscription music (well, after decrypting the Janus-protected WMA files).
      What the hell are you talking about and how is that relevant? Quit hijacking.
      What do you think I'm talking about? The OP (you) described the way that it interfaces with the iPhone's music player app [sic - it's the "iPod app"] is as a "plugin." If this can integrate that way, it could be used to allow it to support more previously-unsupported formats exactly the way I described.

      What better program to integrate such support into than this, the very one that gives you the ability to copy files on without iTunes (iTunes certainly isn't going to sync unsupported files), especially with people complaining about the price (it would certainly give it more value).

      This isn't thread-jacking. There is no better place to discuss this idea. Apple will never allow subscription music on their own. PwnTunes would be an awesome way to add it. Even if there is no way to write a Janus-compliant WMA player, people can still run FairUse4WM on a virtual machine and use the subscription libraries that way (strip them of DRM; playback the unprotected WMA files).
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      Quote Originally Posted by CZroe View Post
      What do you think I'mn talking about? The OP (you) described the way that it interfaces with the iPhone's music player app [sic - it's the "iPod app"] is as a "plugin." If this can integrate that way, it could be used to allow it to support more previously-unsupported formats exactly the way I described.
      Look, I did misunderstand you a bit the first time, but besides that - this will never happen.

      1. It's stupid. You're telling me I'm going to use my iPhone's CPU (and more importantly battery) to actively convert WMA into MP3 in realtime, just so I can avoid having to convert a WMA to an MP3 on computer? Get real.

      2. If you're talking about WMA's you obtained via a subscription service, it's illegal. Good luck cracking Janus AND pissing off the subscription company. I'm sure they and M$ will let that one slide if you do, on an Apple product no less.

      3. Noone uses WMA's except for streaming anyway, cuz they suck and MS never should have created their own format. If you have them laying around, convert them. End of story.
    1. dazzer1983's Avatar
      dazzer1983 -
      I bet over 99 percent of people who have jailbroken there iphones download all there apps for free. Why would anyone bother to register a credit card with appstore and waste money on apps they can get for free from elsewhere.
      Its not been cheap its been smart. I think pwntunes is a great app but i wont be paying for it i will just wait for someone to crack it. As long as theres people out there willing to crack apps there will be people like me getting them for free. Hope this hasnt offended anyone. If it has then tough.
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      Quote Originally Posted by dazzer1983 View Post
      I bet over 99 percent of people who have jailbroken there iphones download all there apps for free. Why would anyone bother to register a credit card with appstore and waste money on apps they can get for free from ********.
      Its not been cheap its been smart. I think pwntunes is a great app but i wont be paying for it i will just wait for someone to crack it. As long as theres people out there willing to crack apps there will be people like me getting them for free. Hope this hasnt offended anyone. If it has then tough.
      Yes, and leechers like you have a negative impact on our entire community, discouraging would-be developers (like me) from creating great apps like the one we're discussing. If it weren't for cheapskates like you who "can't afford" to reward a a developer with lunch for something he's spent hours upon hours working on, we'd have apps like this one released far more often. Without developer support, you'll have nothing to crack, nub.

      For the rest of you who are actually excited about this, I just had some chats with SpiritOfLogic, and I have something you'll be even more excited about coming up soon
    1. dazzer1983's Avatar
      dazzer1983 -
      Ok tell us what then ?

      If it's rewarding you want then add a donation button
      : p
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by paganizonda83 View Post

      I think you have missed the reason behind jailbreaking. It's all about giving the person freedom over their own phone (or ipod). One of the main reasons I jailbroke my phone was so I would be able to add great features like this to it if I so desire. Features like these would only be pipedreams if we had to have Apple approve an app such as this (or hell, even their QuickReply SMS). Jailbreaking was never created to get stuff for free (those who do are flat out cheap, plain and simple); it was about getting stuff that a restrictive company wanted to keep from their customers.

      Your ending is just moronic Just get a cheap flash drive? How much do those cost these days? Oh, about the same (and in many cases more) than this app. Throw in the fact that you've got essentially up to a 14-30 gb flash drive there for $13 compared to the usual 4gb or 8gb drives you can find these days for that price and your logic is flat out wrong.
      First off, you hardly speak for the entire jailbreaking community. Your reasons for jailbreaking may be different than the next persons. Secondly, your flat wrong about jailbreaking never being created to get stuff for free. Before the Cydia store and Rock, all the jailbroken apps were free. It was not until Apple started declining a great deal of useful apps to their store that the cydia store was created then Rock. And furthermore, compare the number of free apps to the number of paid apps on cydia. And you may be correct about the flash drive. But if you could grasp the whole picture, my point was that this app is not worth the money unless you plan on plugging your phone in every random PC you see just to transfer a couple of music albums and pictures.

      Bottom line, this app may be useful to some but if others dont like/need it then so be it. It is morons like you that will blindly follow the crowd just because they say so. I am a grown *** man who can afford this app 10 fold, but I dont fall for everything proclaimed to be "the next must have jailbreaking app".
    1. thevmax's Avatar
      thevmax -
      Sounds promising....if it was less expensive.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by dazzer1983 View Post
      I bet over 99 percent of people who have jailbroken there iphones download all there apps for free. Why would anyone bother to register a credit card with appstore and waste money on apps they can get for free from elsewhere.
      Its not been cheap its been smart. I think pwntunes is a great app but i wont be paying for it i will just wait for someone to crack it. As long as theres people out there willing to crack apps there will be people like me getting them for free. Hope this hasnt offended anyone. If it has then tough.
      Over 99% eh? Doubtful. It's not being smart, it's bein a low level cheap bastard and a thief. It's not like you're having to steal for your basic survival. An iPhone is a luxury item and if you can't afford the costs that come with an item like it then maybe you should think about switching to boost mobile or metro pcs since money seems to be so short. You are a *****, plain and simple.
    1. dazzer1983's Avatar
      dazzer1983 -
      Call me what you like your probably just upset because you have wasted your money on an app you can live without.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by ninthchamber99 View Post
      First off, you hardly speak for the entire jailbreaking community. Your reasons for jailbreaking may be different than the next persons. Secondly, your flat wrong about jailbreaking never being created to get stuff for free. Before the Cydia store and Rock, all the jailbroken apps were free. It was not until Apple started declining a great deal of useful apps to their store that the cydia store was created then Rock. And furthermore, compare the number of free apps to the number of paid apps on cydia. And you may be correct about the flash drive. But if you could grasp the whole picture, my point was that this app is not worth the money unless you plan on plugging your phone in every random PC you see just to transfer a couple of music albums and pictures.

      Bottom line, this app may be useful to some but if others dont like/need it then so be it. It is morons like you that will blindly follow the crowd just because they say so. I am a grown *** man who can afford this app 10 fold, but I dont fall for everything proclaimed to be "the next must have jailbreaking app".
      • Because of there not being a way to charge for their apps in the beginning does not mean jailbreaking was created in order to get stuff for free. And wow, to imagine that developers would eventually want to be reimbursed for their numerous hours of hard work. How dare them!
      • Free apps vs paid apps in Cydia, what does that prove? Theres a ton more free apps than paid apps in the Appstore so what's your point there? Go look at the free apps in Cydia, just like in the AppStore, there are a few great free apps but the overwhelming majority is pure trash.
      • I may be correct about the flash drive? How is there even any speculation there? That part is just plain true.
      • Blindly follow? Please read my previous post about Spirit's other big app, iRealSMS, and you will see that I am not blindly following anyone. Rather, I am basing it upon prior experiences with said Developer
      • You're a grown *** man, congratulations. Next step: develop rational thought.
    1. ownerofspam's Avatar
      ownerofspam -
      Quote Originally Posted by dazzer1983 View Post
      Call me what you like your probably just upset because you have wasted your money on an app you can live without.
      I don't know how old you are, but I seriously despise people like you.

      Do you know why apple has such a problem with jailbreaking? They don't care that we turn our volume buttons into play\pause\skip buttons, they don't care that we theme our music players and icons, hell, apple probably doesn't care that we use our iPhones are HD's through WinSCP and other manners.

      What they do care about, is the people that took the perfectly good community, and ruined it through piracy. I pay for my songs, I pay for my apps, the reason that consoles get locked down, and good things get ruined is because pirates turn a perfectly healthy community devoted to adding tweaks and little things such as PwnTunes to give our iPods the full functionality we really want.

      Now you're going to try saying "what about free trials? Why can't we crack apps for that?" N64iphone has a free option to allow people to see if the framerate and the overall product is something that they want to pay for. The reason that other emulators cost money now when they used to not is because it is a PRODUCT that a developer worked hard to make and it is something that people truly want on their iPod.

      I donated to Comex when he bannerbombed my wii, and I donated to Comex when he Spirited my iPhone. Why? Because he worked his *** off to do what he did. I bought COD:Zombies for my iPhone because I enjoy the game. Am I well aware that I could have gotten it for free? Yes, I am. But that's exactly why apple hates our community, because pirates ruin everything. Music, applications, paid software on PC's\Mac's.

      I hope your *** gets fined until you're flat broke.
    1. dazzer1983's Avatar
      dazzer1983 -
      Don't hate the player. Hate the game. Oy oy ma heartie
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by paganizonda83 View Post
      • Because of there not being a way to charge for their apps in the beginning does not mean jailbreaking was created in order to get stuff for free. And wow, to imagine that developers would eventually want to be reimbursed for their numerous hours of hard work. How dare them!
      • Free apps vs paid apps in Cydia, what does that prove? Theres a ton more free apps than paid apps in the Appstore so what's your point there? Go look at the free apps in Cydia, just like in the AppStore, there are a few great free apps but the overwhelming majority is pure trash.
      • I may be correct about the flash drive? How is there even any speculation there? That part is just plain true.
      • Blindly follow? Please read my previous post about Spirit's other big app, iRealSMS, and you will see that I am not blindly following anyone. Rather, I am basing it upon prior experiences with said Developer
      • You're a grown *** man, congratulations. Next step: develop rational thought.
      What a moron!!!!

      1)Ever heard of a donation button linked to PayPal? I guess your small narrow mind cant understand that maybe someone decided to develop apps out of pure pleasure or just to show off their skills (Did Geohot charge people for BlackRa1n or PurpleRa1n?????)

      2)Most of the free apps on the App Store are lite versions made to intice people to buy the full app. How many lite apps are on Cydia???

      3)You can buy a 8GB flash drive for $15 right now at best buy or online. So again, is this really needed for a few songs/pictures? I bet most would rather have a very small drive that can be carried anywhere instead of needing their phone and a cord to connect to a computer. Most people only transfer a few files, not their entire iTunes library.

      4)If you decided to get this app just because it is proclaimed to be the next big thing all jailbreakers need, then you are a sheep following the rest of the flock!! And for the record I have iRealSMS and MiWI, so it's not like I dont buy apps from the same developer you got yours from. But to standby this app without even having it and trashing others opinions on said subject is sad on your behalf. And since my this comment really was not meant for you, sit down young one and be quite.
      5) And since I am a grown man, and you appear to be a kid/tween, respect your elders little one!!
    1. z3r01's Avatar
      z3r01 -
      Next insults will result in infractions , please people let's try and keep things civil....
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by z3r01 View Post
      Next insults will result in infractions , please people let's try and keep things civil....
      Such as......

      Funny how after I respond to this person's initial comments that you say infractions are coming with the next insult. Where was this at initially???

      Edit: On second thought, it doesnt even matter!!
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by ninthchamber99 View Post
      What a moron!!!!

      1)Ever heard of a donation button linked to PayPal? I guess your small narrow mind cant understand that maybe someone decided to develop apps out of pure pleasure or just to show off their skills (Did Geohot charge people for BlackRa1n or PurpleRa1n?????)

      2)Most of the free apps on the App Store are lite versions made to intice people to buy the full app. How many lite apps are on Cydia???

      3)You can buy a 8GB flash drive for $15 right now at best buy or online. So again, is this really needed for a few songs/pictures?

      4)If you decided to get this app just because it is proclaimed to be the next big thing all jailbreakers need, then you are a sheep following the rest of the flock!! And for the record I have iRealSMS and MiWI, so it's not like I dont buy apps from the same developer you got yours from. But to standby this app without even having it and trashing others opinions on said subject is sad on your behalf. And since my this comment really was not meant for you, sit down young one and be quite.
      5) And since I am a grown man, and you appear to be a kid/tween, respect your elders little one!!
      Donation does not guarantee payment. Whether one dev wants to do something for free has no credence on whether another dev should charge for it.

      Most free Appstore apps are not lite versions of anything.

      I'm still lost on what you're trying to prove with the flash drive thing. It wouldn't be only for pics and music. It'd be like any other flash drive.

      You sure are stuck on this age thing. Age has for a long time proven nothing at all.

      Quote Originally Posted by ninthchamber99 View Post
      Such as......

      Funny how after I respond to this person's initial comments that you say infractions are coming with the next insult. Where was this at initially???

      Edit: On second thought, it doesnt even matter!!
      I have a feeling he was directing that towards myself and the other poster regarding our comments on the guy promoting app piracy.
    1. ninthchamber99's Avatar
      ninthchamber99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by paganizonda83 View Post
      Donation does not guarantee payment. Whether one dev wants to do something for free has no credence on whether another dev should charge for it.

      Most free Appstore apps are not lite versions of anything.

      I'm still lost on what you're trying to prove with the flash drive thing. It wouldn't be only for pics and music. It'd be like any other flash drive.

      You sure are stuck on this age thing. Age has for a long time proven nothing at all.



      I have a feeling he was directing that towards myself and the other poster regarding our comments on the guy promoting app piracy.
      Last point, I am entitled to my opinion. If I feel like this app is a total waste, it is my opinion.

      And let me clear up the flash drive thing. What type/size file would you actually load on your phone/pod? Music, photos, word/pages doc., excel/numbers spreadsheet? My point is that it would be either really big or really small. If it is really big, are you going to put them on your phone, even if it is for a short time? Most probably would not. If the file is really small (couple of songs or photos), why not use a 1-8GB flash drive? I have one on my keychain, I work with ladies who have one in their purse. This app requires that you have a cord in order to transfer files off the PC and onto you device. My only point was, IMO, is that a small flash drive would be easier and in some cases cheaper than this app.

      My ORIGINAL point about age was in reference to someone saying that people who complain about the prices of apps are usually kids. I was saying that I am an adult and based off of GP I will not pay for something I can get for free. Am I clear now!! If not, then.....................