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  • AT&T "Maps" Out Lawsuit Against Verizon



    AT&T is taking Verizon to court. And even if you haven't heard why, there's a good chance you can suspect the impetus behind the suit filed.

    If you've seen Verizon's "There's a Map for That" commercials, you've probably noticed that AT&T's represented coverage area looks nothing like the coverage area AT&T says it provides. In fact, the commercial makes AT&T's coverage look so bad, that some commentators in the blogosphere saw this lawsuit coming probably before Verizon did.

    From Apple Insider:

    The "Map" advertisement displays two competing 3G coverage maps, in which the Verizon coverage area is clearly more widespread than AT&T's coverage area. The suit contains an AT&T commissioned survey of the ads which found that 53 percent of those asked interpreted the non-colored areas of the maps to be total gaps in coverage.
    With growing talk that Apple may drop exclusivity with AT&T next year and possibly team with Verizon to extend carrier options for Apple customers, the bad blood between AT&T and Verizon has been boiling like never before in recent weeks. The lawsuit obviously illustrates the intensity of the situation.

    Verizon has released a series of aggressive ads targeted toward AT&T and the iPhone specifically in conjunction with the release of Motorola's Droid phone on the Verizon network. The Droid is scheduled to be released November 6th, and is the first phone to carry Android version 2.0 along with a beta of Google Navigator. Verizon's "iDon't" ad directly compared the Droid to the iPhone, claiming that the Droid has superior features.
    Verizon is reacting to news of the lawsuit tonight saying only that AT&T's gripes are without merit and that "the ads in question clearly state that voice and data services are available outside 3G areas."

    AT&T spokesman Mark Siegel says "Verizon knows we're the leader in smartphones. This whole campaign is a response to that."

    The suit seeks a temporary restraining order and a injunction to stop Verizon from "disseminating misleading coverage maps" of AT&T's areas of cellular and data coverage. AT&T is also seeking damages in the suit.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: AT&T "Maps" Out Lawsuit Against Verizon started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 80 Comments
    1. xgus69's Avatar
      xgus69 -
      ATT is bad. lol
    1. staterunner180's Avatar
      staterunner180 -
      Sure AT&T has speed on their 3G network, but Verizon has coverage, while some people that have AT&T have great coverage all over, most people don't. I would have an iPhone right now, except that unless I drove 30 minutes away from my house, I would get no service with AT&T. I don't mean just 3G either, I'm talking no voice or data whatsoever. So AT&T needs to step it up, and expand their network otherwise they are bound to lose the iPhone.
    1. PStuLovesCrackk's Avatar
      PStuLovesCrackk -
      I hate Verizon. They put their custom firmware on almost their phones to disable features. EX: The LG chocolate and the motorola razr. I remember when i tried to transfer pics and ringtones via bluetooth to a verizon phone and it wasnt supported because they disabled it. You couldnt even mod verizons phone because their firmware blocks it out....SO Verizon = FAIL. GSM *******!
    1. skj8100's Avatar
      skj8100 -
      THE COMMERCIAL IS ACCURATE. PERIOD. THE MAPS IN THE COMMERCIAL ARE FOR 3g COVERAG ONLY. AT&T SUCKS PERIOD. sorry for th caps but you people who say this is inaccurate ARE WRONG. The blue data coverage shown in a previous post is for edge coverage.
    1. ShadowDXDragon's Avatar
      ShadowDXDragon -
      atleast i live in CT where its completely blue Maybe thats why i actually like AT&T
    1. nighthawk283's Avatar
      nighthawk283 -
      I never liked at&t or verzion
    1. Kamil18's Avatar
      Kamil18 -
      Quote Originally Posted by PStuLovesCrackk View Post
      I hate Verizon. They put their custom firmware on almost their phones to disable features. EX: The LG chocolate and the motorola razr. I remember when i tried to transfer pics and ringtones via bluetooth to a verizon phone and it wasnt supported because they disabled it. You couldnt even mod verizons phone because their firmware blocks it out....SO Verizon = FAIL. GSM *******!
      They haven't done those kinds of things for YEARS.

      Update your book.
    1. PStuLovesCrackk's Avatar
      PStuLovesCrackk -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kamil18 View Post
      They haven't done those kinds of things for YEARS.

      Update your book.
      Ha the point being that they have done it. Period. Would you care to explain why they did that in the first place? I would love to hear why they disabled features on their phones?
    1. GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL's Avatar
      GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL -
      Quote Originally Posted by PStuLovesCrackk View Post
      Ha the point being that they have done it. Period. Would you care to explain why they did that in the first place? I would love to hear why they disabled features on their phones?
      So?
      They have done it. The only devices that it really matters on is the smartphones they carry and mostly, all of their new ones aren't locked up in the slightest.. I say most because I'm not totally sure.
    1. slidingmike's Avatar
      slidingmike -
      Okay imma put my opinion in here about Verizon getting anything Apple related. It isn't happening. I was talking to a Verizon rep the other day, and the reason Verizon never jumped before was because they wasn't making anything off the phone. Apple set the price and they couldn't raise it because it'd go to straight to apple. Basically they was just there to do all Apple's saleing for free. As for the Droid? I saw the phone it's rather nice but price w/o 2 year contract was suppose to be set at 899.99 Who in the right mind would pay that? Maybe it'll do good maybe it won't. As to googles Android Service ever becoming better than Apples? It may happen, but it took them putting their OS on tons of phones to do it. Not just one, like Apple did. Which to me means Apple wins.
    1. vantheman169's Avatar
      vantheman169 -
      Quote Originally Posted by robbpell View Post
      lol nice map of there edge network that map can't be 3g it has almost my whole state covered and yet i have to drive 50 miles to get 3g so hum one of us needs to get our facts straight and im thinking its not me.
      i went ahead and went to the at&t coverage map and properly checked off 3g coverage "to get my facts straight" and wow looks very similar to a map i seen on a commercial recently hum which could it be.
      hey at least you were right about there voice coverage.
      Ok i stand corrected i guess i should have zoomed in a little bit on that map. I appologize and can admit when i am wrong. I have great coverage and i dont live in a huge city but from there actual 3g coverage that does blow. Upgrade AT&T!
    1. mastaryan's Avatar
      mastaryan -
      I'm gonna go with Verizon here. My dad has Verizon and has fast download speeds with his blackberry storm at my house. He has service anywhere in my home. I have AT&T and I barely get edge service at home only if I stand on one leg on the toilet in my kids bathroom. Then I have to drive an hour North or 1 1/2 hours South to utilize 3G. That's why I still own an iPhone 2g!
    1. thevmax's Avatar
      thevmax -
      Hey "MRGUY"... you must be the ONLY ONE who doesn't get dropped calls from AT&T!....I use my call for work 8 to 10 hours a day. There isn't a day thay goes by that I don't have dropped calls!
    1. seanmacg's Avatar
      seanmacg -
      Screw Verizon, at&t is getting up there and Verizons commercials are so stupid, how about they think of there own ideas and not copy at&t and apples commercials.
    1. Nickaroni22's Avatar
      Nickaroni22 -
      Just got 3G where I live last week, my iPhone loves it, lol!
      These maps that Verizon show of at&t's 3G network are completely inaccurate!!! Just another sad attempt to attack at&t and the iPhone!
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      A co-worker of mine just bought into the Verizon hype and demonstrated his 3G network to me. It was pathetic.

      Just as pathetic as AT&Ts coverage. They need to vamp up their network.
    1. josephc2195's Avatar
      josephc2195 -
      I go to alot of places and everywhere I get 3G. I'll agree verizon has better 3G coverage but AT&T isn't that bad either.
    1. kenpura's Avatar
      kenpura -
      i'm very happy with my 3g service. i get 3g in areas i didn't even get regular cell service with various other reputable cell providers. i have never been without service while in at&t's very capable hands.
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      AT&T has done a lot for their network this past year. Their 3G coverage has blown up and you can see the money they are dumping into their infrastructure. Verizon just wants to lure people onto their slower data network. It is crap.
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      Regardless of this red vs. blue conflict, these maps pretty accurately show what the spread of a devastating virus will look like. This may as well be a before/ after map of the zombie apocalypse.

      Quote Originally Posted by slidingmike View Post
      Okay imma put my opinion in here about Verizon getting anything Apple related. It isn't happening.
      Fail. Verizon is getting the iPad.