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  • Apple Officially Going to War Against Jailbreaking



    Apple is officially in the market for a new top cop on their jailbreak police force. With the booming business that is jailbreaking only growing bigger by the day, Apple is planning to seriously crack down on the ease with which hackers exploit the iPhone platform and modify their devices' operating systems.

    And Apple isn't making any secret of its intentions. In fact, a new position is posted for all to see on the company's website. They are hoping in the very near future to fill the position of "iPhone OS Platform Security Manager" - aka, a jailbreak cop.

    Apple Insider reports that "The company is looking for someone to oversee its team which ensures secure booting and installation of the iPhone OS and protecting and hardening it against outside threats."

    It's not clear whether the position is new, or if Apple is looking to replace someone on an existing team. The Santa Clara Valley job was posted on Oct. 16, 2009.
    It seems plausible that this is an entirely new position altogether at the company, as Apple is likely surprised with how easily and readily the iPhone is being jailbroken by more users than they can possibly imagine. Consequently, the obvious purpose of this position is to invent and erect as many barriers to jailbreaking as possible.

    Sounds like Apple is really going to war with jailbreakers this time.

    It has been a long back-and-forth battle between Apple and hackers since the iPhone debuted in 2007. While those working to crack the phone have, until now, been able to maintain their ability to run unauthorized code, Apple, at the moment, appears to have the upper hand. The most recently updated iPhone 3GS, released mid-cycle in October, requires what is known as a "tethered jailbreak," meaning that the iPhone must be attached to a computer via USB and have a hack applied each time it is restarted.

    Image via revolver360


    Thanks to Melech518 for the heads up!
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple Officially Going to War Against Jailbreaking started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 164 Comments
    1. Backslash786's Avatar
      Backslash786 -
      Basically apple are tryying to stop jailbreaking???.what about people who are already jailbroke
      en

      if this really happens I've got 3 iPhones to sell.

      Will jailbroken users get into trouble or what??
    1. smiska2's Avatar
      smiska2 -
      You fail at posting: stop double-posting.
      you fail at everything else...
    1. Kiserai's Avatar
      Kiserai -
      Yeah, this is seriously retarded. I can understand their fight against piracy, but quit fighting those of us that jailbreak just for the customization and apps that make the phone more usable.

      If I can't run Winterboard, SBSettings, QuickReply and Yourtube I'm selling my iPhone and switching to Android. I might anyways, but I will for sure if Apple actually succeeds in making hack-proof software.
    1. ddonuts4's Avatar
      ddonuts4 -
      Apple will never stop us- no matter how many people there are on apples team, there will always be more in the world trying to jailbreak iPhones.
    1. jdys_1991's Avatar
      jdys_1991 -
      I can't wait! Great news!
      Nothing is/will be "hack" proof. Ever.
      They can tighten the security, but never make it perfect.

      We will only have more and more people taking this "challenge" to jailbreak the new firmware/iPhone. The hacker could make some serious money out of it with the donations from the people around the world.

      Only way Apple would have a chance to really, really tighten the security to the extreme, would be by employing someone like Geohot or the whole dev-team.

      But luckily we have Geohot'z and the dev team on our side, no need to worry. They are da men'z!
    1. sandyt87's Avatar
      sandyt87 -
      I don't get it. Apple lock down their OS. They wont let you even change something as simple as a background (with a stock un JB'd phone) but oo we get a pretty wallpaper when our phone is locked (ie we arent using it). And they wonder why we want to jailbreak?? Not everyone is as dull as the creative team at apple who thing a black springboard background is the best thing since sliced bread.

      The fact is, why do MS get hauled to court everytime it does something that may compromise what you want to do with a product you have bought, but apple get away without anyone giving two sh*ts(in the legal relm that is). If they try and alienate their more "creative" users anymore with their circus tricks I for one will move to android.

      Im fed up having to go through a JB just to use a phone that I have paid for. My last phone an old sony ericsson w610i let me customise it any way I wished. It played music without moaning. It took decent photos. And guess what apple, it had a effin light that was almost as bright as the sun!!!!

      Maybe with SE shipping their new fancy phones with android, a switch may be quicker than apple think.

      Please dont get me wrong I love my iPhone, im just glad I got to know it through it being jailbroken rather than the bland uninspiring thing that apple want to shove down our throats.

      Finally, anything can be hacked. If someone has the time knowledge and patience, it will be done.

      Hackers only have to find one weakness and know how to exploit it.

      Sandy
    1. ddonuts4's Avatar
      ddonuts4 -
      Wow... Somebody like geohot should apply for that job and keep putting hidden exploits in the firmware to ensure that it can be jailbroken.
    1. chris4851's Avatar
      chris4851 -
      Not that I think Jailbreaking will ever stop but if it gets harder and longer for a Jailbreak to happen upon new software releases I will be getting rid of the iPhone for an Android device. The iPhone in its stock form is nothing more to me than a worthless iPod with a cellphone attached to it. Jailbreak is the only thing that makes this capable of its true potential.
    1. Stephen.'s Avatar
      Stephen. -
      We do what we want on what we paid for IMHO
    1. jayson9's Avatar
      jayson9 -
      If my memory serves me right, I believe one of the reasons why OS2 did not survive was because IBM did not want to share their proprietary code. That caused most of the popular software vendors at the time to go to Windows, and IBM PC software went away!
      Looks like Apple may be on a "similiar" path! Go Apple! Apple keeps making better and better arguements to go with another phone (and AT&T doesn't hurt the cause either)!
    1. Channan's Avatar
      Channan -
      Aren't there things developers can do to stop cracked apps from working? Instead of Apple stopping us from jailbreaking, they should work with developers to help secure their apps.
    1. Truckerbear's Avatar
      Truckerbear -
      As long is there is iPhone their will be someone smarter than whoever they hire to stop jailbreaking to rejailbreak and unlock. Its futile to keep trying to stop it. There will always be another Zibri, another Geohot and another Dev Team.
    1. silent1643's Avatar
      silent1643 -
      it would be a wrong move to try and get rid of the jailbreak community - not like they will be successful anyway - the ability to jailbreak the iphone helps drive its sales for apple - take that away and you get a lot of pissed off people working even harder to jailbreak the phone
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Quote Originally Posted by €hR!$ View Post
      Aren't there things developers can do to stop cracked apps from working? Instead of Apple stopping us from jailbreaking, they should work with developers to help secure their apps.
      See the link I posted in #55 of this thread.

      If Apple were serious about stopping pirating they would go after them rather than jailbreakers.
    1. hollow0's Avatar
      hollow0 -
      I think the 3GS is a great device. The hardware is fast and makes the OS more responsive which is something i really like. Buuuuut... the phone itself just wasn't as fun to use or customizable enough if it's not jailbroken. I've tried to use it just stock and i didn't last that long lol. It's sad..very sad. iPhone has the best multitouch screen hands down..no matter if you like android or windows, apple has the touch UI down perfectly but they need to allow options to be modified! The demand is cuztomization and quick jumps to certain applications.

      The demand prior was cut, copy, paste, video, and hardware..and they finally applied it in version 3.0. But now the demand has changed to customizations and open source.. I seriously doubt the OS will becoming open sourced only the apps will remain open sourced. But allowing us to use "widgets" and just simple user changes to the background and other stuff is just basic. Freaking basic man! Why can't we do that? If Apple does not do something innovative and entirely different with OS 4.0 then, i think they're pretty much done. Android is the only other OS that is catching up and i can see them taking over the smartphone world if Apple doesn't change.

      But i've yet to see a good virtual keyboard on an Android phone. They all suck! the iPhone UI is just so damn good that i expect no less from any other phone. And i can't use plastic buttons anymore..feels too slow..that's what's also keeping me from moving on. But, i do like that HTC Hero! Someone needs to figure out how to fuse the iPhone UI and the Hero together..that would be the ultimate phone. iHero ^^ Yes? No? Think about it!
    1. yahoowizard's Avatar
      yahoowizard -
      If Apple didn't have to be so *** with their Appstore, there wouldn't even be a Cydia or jailbreaking.
    1. FoneWeasel's Avatar
      FoneWeasel -
      They already have a head of iPhone platform security. We've met with him in the past in Cupertino. The guy was a jerk and acted as if the iPhone platform was 100% secure.
    1. jjsammy's Avatar
      jjsammy -
      GEOHOT/IphoneDev Team for iPhone OS Platform Security Manager position...They can fix the bugs for apple and release the hack to us the next day...apple is happy and so are we!!!!!
    1. edwilk55's Avatar
      edwilk55 -
      Quote Originally Posted by ziggie216 View Post
      well... I guess in a few months or so.. depending on how jailbreaking will turn out during the next few release.. it might be good bye Apple, hello Andriod.

      iPhone is a really nice smartphone, but its the jailbreak w/ other addons that makes it great.
      I was just about to post the same thing. I love the iPhone, but only because of the themes and jail breaks that I've added...

      And with AT&T's service as bad as it is, I'm close to throwing in the towel anyway.
    1. TrippleSinner's Avatar
      TrippleSinner -
      A 100,000 apps? Big deal, Half of them are absolutely useless, Id say maybe a 100/150 of them are useful. I am running my iPhone 2G 16gb Model just fine since the day I went in and handed apple 400$ in cash. My plan on t mobile now is 79.99 Unlimited everything so it works well for me. At&t plans are horrible, there service is horrible. And it is true there 3G coverage is crappy. I know people who are flocking to t mobile now. Jailbreaking will never ceasse. Steve jobs is only a man and us people out here want options and that will never go away.