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  • Rock Out With Your Cydia Out


    Cydia, the brainchild of Jay Freeman (saurik), is out. What is it? Think Installer, but open source and more features. The technical description, for those who get it, is a GUI front-end for a port of the Debian APT system which saurik himself ported to the iPhone, along with a whole suite of Unix utilities he's also ported.

    This isn't a replacement for Installer - I have both installed, and apps from both packagers on my iPhone. Saurik also says the same thing - "Cydia/APT does not conflict with Installer. I run both on my phone and have a large amount of software installed via Installer. There are currently no known compatibility issues between applications that expect BSD Subsystem to be installed and devices running Telesphoreo, and no reason to suspect anything major on that front. Finally, no one is forcing anyone, packagers and users alike, to start using Cydia instead of Installer."



    Cydia is easy for you to get on your iPhone - if you've got Installer on your iPhone/iPod Touch, you just add http://apptapp.saurik.com to your sources, and install Cydia Packager from the System category. Give it 5 minutes (its a big install), and you're good to go.



    You may notice Cydia is at the moment very developer friendly - many of the available installs are Unix utilities which the average user won't need. ModMyI, and especially francis (of the MMi sponsored DRP Dev Team, and author of WiSync) have been working with saurik to put together a variety of other apps as well - games, themes, utilities, and more. Anything can be installed from Cydia.



    So... what's the point? Here's a few features of Cydia:
    • Open Source - while this doesn't directly affect the average user, it is incredibly useful for developers, and bugs are also easily reportable via the project's Trac site.
    • Search - Cydia has a great built in Search function (screenshots earlier in this post), and also the iPhone's Contacts-style alphabet scroll on the side for quick finding apps you're looking for.
    • Resume-able Downloads - You can pause downloads at any time, and resume later. If you lose connection, Cydia will resume downloading as soon as you tell it to.











    Bottom line? Saurik has done some incredible work with Cydia. Bringing open source package installing to the iPhone is a first here, and since saurik stresses the fact that Cydia is still under active development, we can expect to see some great improvements to the app, which is already at version 1.0.

    Bravo.

    Developers - want your app on Cydia? Send cash7c3 or myself a pm with the link to your app, and we'll get it listed within 48 hours.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Rock Out With Your Cydia Out started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 179 Comments
    1. merovee's Avatar
      merovee -
      Hi Saurik,
      Been trying to download Cydia for over 4 times now, but cant get it to install on my 1.1.3 iphone, wanted to know how to clean up the downloaded files onthe iphone and why even when the package downloads completely and I click on install,it does not install ( I have the auto-lockout disabled)
    1. Cocchiararo's Avatar
      Cocchiararo -
      i like Cydias better in every way of course, faster, easier to search, easier to update, easier to browse apps u want to install :P

      one day it will be installable without installer i guess (in an easy way, maybe its easy now, but i didnt bother to search cause i had installer on my iphone anyways).

      But, it is a FACT that i cant install iphisics cause it ask for ither BSD or Cydia, and i have (or had) both, there is NO fake bsd package available (cause i had BDS, so installer still thinks bsd is there).

      I think that the problem must be with iphisics newer version, cause all other apps work fine or are installable tho :P
    1. LGgeek's Avatar
      LGgeek -
      So any suggestions/gotcha's on uninstalling cydia ? can I just rm -f it ?
      since it monkied with things what do I have to put back ?
    1. fastdump's Avatar
      fastdump -
      Hi Saurik,

      Not sure if this is a Cydia/Teleshoreo issue or not...

      I restored to 1.1.4 & installed Cydia/Telesphoreo/Fake BSD directly so have never had BSD Subsystem.

      Now trying to get an app called Pericam to work, which automatically takes pictures at regular intervals. The developer has indicated that the app is not yet compatible with 1.1.3/4 but others have got it working via the method described in the Pericam topic.

      For some reason this method doesn't work for me as the app seems to be expecting a crontab file which is not there (see this post on the Pericam topic for more details about my specific problem).

      A suggestion there, is that the following two paths/files should exist but they don't on my system...

      /var/cron/tabs/
      /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.cron.plist
    1. Hyperextension's Avatar
      Hyperextension -
      Quote Originally Posted by cash7c3 View Post
      ssh into your phone.
      issue the command:
      apt-get update
      This did not work. I restored my phone and started from square one. All looked good. Have been running fine for the last couple days and then...VOILA. Again Cydia crashes to the home screen whenever I try to run it. I tried this command again and nothing. Keeps crashing.

      To me I dont think Cydia is worth it if it doesnt seem to work reliably for any amount of time. And you cant uninstall it!!
    1. Aws3ya's Avatar
      Aws3ya -
      i tried to unistall Cydia with this commands but i keep getting stucked with this message:

      "Host has not answered for moe tham 15 Seconds. Still waiting etc.etc..etc..

      i tried this 3 to 4 times still same result and now when i launch Cydia it crashes back to the Springboard. will appreciate any help..been contemplating on doing a restore just now but i', afraid my Applications will not be on the default Applications folder like the last time time i restored.
    1. Earendil's Avatar
      Earendil -
      Quote Originally Posted by francis View Post
      @buckles08:

      This issue has now been fixed, refresh in Cydia (the button at the top-right corner of the screen) and then, under Changes, hit Upgrade All.

      [snipped]
      I did this (upgrade all) and Cydia locked up on "refreshing sources". When the process had not completed after more than ten minutes, I pressed the home button. Now Cydia crashes back to the desktop each time it is opened.

      I reinstalled Cydia but it still crashes when opened.

      Any suggestions on how to get out of this?

      Thanks.
    1. Hyperextension's Avatar
      Hyperextension -
      Quote Originally Posted by Earendil View Post
      I did this (upgrade all) and Cydia locked up on "refreshing sources". When the process had not completed after more than ten minutes, I pressed the home button. Now Cydia crashes back to the desktop each time it is opened.

      I reinstalled Cydia but it still crashes when opened.

      Any suggestions on how to get out of this?

      Thanks.
      This is exactly how my problems started. It would sit there refreshing forever. I hit the home button and now Cydia crashes right back to the home screen whenever I try running it.

      I dont think I have any other choice but to restore for the second time due to Cydia and stay AS FAR AWAY as I can from this unstable application.

      Installer has worked fine for me from 1.0.2 all the way to 1.1.4 so why change? Especially when things are so unstable right now. I think I will wait until Cydia is tried and true, because right now it isnt.
    1. fastdump's Avatar
      fastdump -
      Quote Originally Posted by fastdump View Post
      Hi Saurik,

      Not sure if this is a Cydia/Teleshoreo issue or not...

      I restored to 1.1.4 & installed Cydia/Telesphoreo/Fake BSD directly so have never had BSD Subsystem.

      Now trying to get an app called Pericam to work, which automatically takes pictures at regular intervals. The developer has indicated that the app is not yet compatible with 1.1.3/4 but others have got it working via the method described in the Pericam topic.

      For some reason this method doesn't work for me as the app seems to be expecting a crontab file which is not there (see this post on the Pericam topic for more details about my specific problem).

      A suggestion there is that the following two paths/files should exist but they don't on my system...
      /var/cron/tabs/
      /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.cron.plist


      SUCCESS!!!

      I found a downloadable zip of BSD Subsystem and noticed that all of the following existed in BSD but not in my clean Cydia install...
      /var/cron/tabs/
      /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.cron.plist
      /usr/bin/crontab
      Once I had created/uploaded these onto the iPhone, Pericam started working correctly!

      As an added bonus, Showtime finally started saving videos!

      YAY!

      Perhaps this can be included in an update to Cydia?...
    1. merovee's Avatar
      merovee -
      Hi,
      Am a huge fan of modmymoto n i[phone forum and have had a loooot of fun with my moto fone's, now i have the iphone and wanted to have some fun with it as well, have tried downloading cydia 4 times and every time it does not install, just brings back my home screen, pls help n advice on how to resolve this,
      2) installer has a new version, but my iphone will not update to the 3.01 ver, says I need to free @least 512 kb of space n Ihave checked I have 6 GB space left and in the system area, I have used only 198 MB, seeking help in this regard as well,
      3) EDGE is not getting active on my iphone, Ihave taken manual settings from my service provider, and done as they say, however still EDGE is not active, but I can browse etc.

      Pls help me get a bit confortable with this new baby, so I can start to have some fun with this,
      cheers
      Merovee
    1. rasamv's Avatar
      rasamv -
      Been using this a little over a 2 week now , very cool.
    1. mdbsat's Avatar
      mdbsat -
      is this cydia for programmers or something? i see that everyone loves this program but i dont think its for the layperson. i have no idea what 90% of these apps are! :P

      i like installer. rarely any problems. very straightforward
    1. steeler927's Avatar
      steeler927 -
      I download themes from cydia, but they do not install into Summerboard.

      Is something missing...do I need a patch or what? - Please advise.
    1. muccaeppollo's Avatar
      muccaeppollo -
      I was wondering if Cydia will give us the chance to finally have a fully featured SKYPE running on our toys ....
    1. vito687's Avatar
      vito687 -
      I had cydia installed working properly when today out of the blue I launch it and it kicks me right back to the springboard. I of course, assume this to be a permissions problem and set my permissions to 777 on the necessary files, so I decided to uninstall using
      apt-get uninstall cydia
      and then I try to reinstall and I get this error

      Couldn't register with bootstrap server unknown error code (0x44f); failing...
      383: ABORT: Unable to register "UnknownPurpleApp" port, 1103 unknown error code

      I tried using installer and I get Main Script Execution Failed


      any Ideas?


      EDIT: After uninstalling with that code the icon was still there so I pressed it... now it runs again... so odd but Im glad it works
    1. Backslash786's Avatar
      Backslash786 -
      messed up my iphone
    1. pongster's Avatar
      pongster -
      I love this app! I actually install right after unlocking my newly restored iPhone instead of the BSD Subsystem. I am still using installer as well so I kinda have the best of both worlds.
    1. bshoosh123's Avatar
      bshoosh123 -
      SWeET Installing it noww
    1. starkruzr's Avatar
      starkruzr -
      I just want to point out that I also had the repetitive "Main script execution failed" error when installing things via Installer after trying to use Cydia without installing BSD Subsystem first.

      It doesn't work, guys. Everyone should be aware of this. Some kind of permissions-related thing happens when you install BSD Subsystem that Cydia doesn't do. So, while Cydia is awesome and all, you should really install BSD Subsystem and then Cydia ON TOP of that.

      Why do I know that something permissions related happens? I launched Installer from the command line from ssh logged in as root and all of my Main script execution errors went away. When I logged in as mobile, I got errors about how the script couldn't write to directories. Caveat emptor.
    1. wbjunkie's Avatar
      wbjunkie -
      Quote Originally Posted by fastdump View Post
      SUCCESS!!!

      I found a downloadable zip of BSD Subsystem and noticed that all of the following existed in BSD but not in my clean Cydia install...

      Once I had created/uploaded these onto the iPhone, Pericam started working correctly!

      As an added bonus, Showtime finally started saving videos!

      YAY!

      Perhaps this can be included in an update to Cydia?...

      I have been following your progress with pericam over the past few days.

      Im somehow not convinced downloading and installing the BSD subsystem manually is a smart move.

      The fix to our problem should be provided by cydia.
      Just out of curisoity did you install the complete BSD subsystem or only the files needed to get pericam to work ?