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  • Rock Out With Your Cydia Out


    Cydia, the brainchild of Jay Freeman (saurik), is out. What is it? Think Installer, but open source and more features. The technical description, for those who get it, is a GUI front-end for a port of the Debian APT system which saurik himself ported to the iPhone, along with a whole suite of Unix utilities he's also ported.

    This isn't a replacement for Installer - I have both installed, and apps from both packagers on my iPhone. Saurik also says the same thing - "Cydia/APT does not conflict with Installer. I run both on my phone and have a large amount of software installed via Installer. There are currently no known compatibility issues between applications that expect BSD Subsystem to be installed and devices running Telesphoreo, and no reason to suspect anything major on that front. Finally, no one is forcing anyone, packagers and users alike, to start using Cydia instead of Installer."



    Cydia is easy for you to get on your iPhone - if you've got Installer on your iPhone/iPod Touch, you just add http://apptapp.saurik.com to your sources, and install Cydia Packager from the System category. Give it 5 minutes (its a big install), and you're good to go.



    You may notice Cydia is at the moment very developer friendly - many of the available installs are Unix utilities which the average user won't need. ModMyI, and especially francis (of the MMi sponsored DRP Dev Team, and author of WiSync) have been working with saurik to put together a variety of other apps as well - games, themes, utilities, and more. Anything can be installed from Cydia.



    So... what's the point? Here's a few features of Cydia:
    • Open Source - while this doesn't directly affect the average user, it is incredibly useful for developers, and bugs are also easily reportable via the project's Trac site.
    • Search - Cydia has a great built in Search function (screenshots earlier in this post), and also the iPhone's Contacts-style alphabet scroll on the side for quick finding apps you're looking for.
    • Resume-able Downloads - You can pause downloads at any time, and resume later. If you lose connection, Cydia will resume downloading as soon as you tell it to.











    Bottom line? Saurik has done some incredible work with Cydia. Bringing open source package installing to the iPhone is a first here, and since saurik stresses the fact that Cydia is still under active development, we can expect to see some great improvements to the app, which is already at version 1.0.

    Bravo.

    Developers - want your app on Cydia? Send cash7c3 or myself a pm with the link to your app, and we'll get it listed within 48 hours.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Rock Out With Your Cydia Out started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 179 Comments
    1. abujala's Avatar
      abujala -
      anyone know of sources i can add

      and maybe how to add theme

      thanks for the hard work ...u guys are hard core!!
    1. Nefarious's Avatar
      Nefarious -
      Played with it some before I did the 1.1.4 upgrade yesterday. It's a nice application. I'll wait for it to be a little more developed before adding it back to 1.1.4. Things are really on the right track.
    1. Broomhead's Avatar
      Broomhead -
      Just installed on 1.1.4 works fine!
      Thanks
    1. Lenuam's Avatar
      Lenuam -
      Yeah, I've got it running on 1.1.4. It's an awesome application, and I seriously hope that it will be able to completely replace Installer very soon.
      Oh, one question: Now that I have installed Cydia on my iPhone, would it be possible to write native applications using Python or Java? Is there any documentation about that?
    1. Eikcuhc's Avatar
      Eikcuhc -
      I've run into problems with Cydia

      I have an unlocked, jailborken 1.1.3 using Dev Teams Method

      i decided to attempt to install Cydia, with BSD already installed,

      i tried the first time, got "Main Script Execution Failed"

      so i attempted to go into WinSCP to look at my files

      cant.

      no wifi?

      so i go and connect to my wifi, but it only stays connected aslong as im in the menu in settings

      if i go home it boots me off

      im attempting to install Cydia again and i havent gotten errors..but i wouldnt mind figuring out what happened :/


      UPDATE: still got the error

      i noticed it was around "Extracting Tele..."

      UPDATE 2: Restarting seemed to fix wifi..for now.

      Restarting seemed to fix it..its installed now.

      cant find "Fake BSD Sub" tho
    1. SNIP3R_36's Avatar
      SNIP3R_36 -
      Is anyone having edge issues after installing cydia? I cannot use weather or Maps on Edge now. I get the "Couldn't find location" and "update Failed" errors. I'm on 1.1.3 Jailbroken and unlocked using the iclarified method
    1. ajl917's Avatar
      ajl917 -
      Ive just got a suggestion for the future of Installer and Cydia. Why not just combine them? If you add the Cydia features to Installer, its the best of both worlds. Just my 2 cents...
    1. AshGoodger's Avatar
      AshGoodger -
      everytime I try to download anything in installer it just says...."Error Main Script execution failed!"
    1. Eikcuhc's Avatar
      Eikcuhc -
      restart and try again..i had same problem.
    1. Ryan9104's Avatar
      Ryan9104 -
      Quote Originally Posted by ajl917 View Post
      Ive just got a suggestion for the future of Installer and Cydia. Why not just combine them? If you add the Cydia features to Installer, its the best of both worlds. Just my 2 cents...
      Wait, that's what Cydia is, is it not?

      Cydia is planned to have all of the same features I thought.
    1. dlubbat's Avatar
      dlubbat -
      Way better than installer
    1. Bianca's Avatar
      Bianca -
      I have Cydia and it's not ready for primetime needs alot of work So I removed it and what a pain to remove also...
    1. ajl917's Avatar
      ajl917 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryan9104 View Post
      Wait, that's what Cydia is, is it not?

      Cydia is planned to have all of the same features I thought.
      Yeah, but why create a whole new thing when you could just make Installer better...
    1. Ryan9104's Avatar
      Ryan9104 -
      Quote Originally Posted by ajl917 View Post
      Yeah, but why create a whole new thing when you could just make Installer better...
      Because they could, but they haven't.
      It isn't open source so nobody could fix it.

      If anything is wrong with Cydia and the main devs don't take any action, other coders can.
    1. radom's Avatar
      radom -
      Quote Originally Posted by francis View Post

      Edit: @metaljay, just noticed your comment about jailbreakme.com:
      Unfortunately, the jailbreakme.com method has limitations, most importantly, size, the tiff can only contain so much code, and frankly, 11MB is way beyond the limit.
      What about ziphone? Maybe it is possible to integrate it with ziphone and have Cyndia instead installer on new unlocked phone after using ziphone. This should be good replacement for installer. I am looking forward to it.
    1. anmiller07's Avatar
      anmiller07 -
      Quote Originally Posted by radom View Post
      What about ziphone? Maybe it is possible to integrate it with ziphone and have Cyndia instead installer on new unlocked phone after using ziphone. This should be good replacement for installer. I am looking forward to it.
      I am looking forward to it as well, but I think it will be a while before something like that happens, because :

      a) Dev's have to switch their repo's over to the cydia side of things (kind of being taken care of as they are making something to convert the repos over, right?)

      and b) most people just know and tolerate installer, and will automatically be looking for that with future jailbreaks. In fact the words AppTap/Installer/Installer.app have become synonymous with the word jailbreak.

      Still (Cydia > Installer)^10, even in this, its early stage.
    1. Hyperextension's Avatar
      Hyperextension -
      I have Cydia installed. I am on 1.1.4 Ziphone unlocked. This program worked fine, but not it is crashing. It opens briefly and then crashes back to the home screen.

      I went into installer to do a renistall of Cydia which went fine, but I still have the app crashing when I try to run it.

      What can I do? Could it have anything to do with commands I have run to get Finder working?

      I am not sure where or what to look at. I have set permissions to 0777 on Cydia.app and all the files inside. They are also Group: admin, Owner: root.

      Any help is appreciated.
    1. viP4x's Avatar
      viP4x -
      I would like this program asks for wifi networks, like installer ... I just need it
    1. cantar74's Avatar
      cantar74 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Hyperextension View Post
      I have Cydia installed. I am on 1.1.4 Ziphone unlocked. This program worked fine, but not it is crashing. It opens briefly and then crashes back to the home screen.

      I went into installer to do a renistall of Cydia which went fine, but I still have the app crashing when I try to run it.

      What can I do? Could it have anything to do with commands I have run to get Finder working?

      I am not sure where or what to look at. I have set permissions to 0777 on Cydia.app and all the files inside. They are also Group: admin, Owner: root.

      Any help is appreciated.
      Yeah, I am having the same issues as Hyperextension. Is there a solution for this probelm. I would not want to have to restore my phone.
    1. Cody Overcash's Avatar
      Cody Overcash -
      Quote Originally Posted by Hyperextension View Post
      I have Cydia installed. I am on 1.1.4 Ziphone unlocked. This program worked fine, but not it is crashing. It opens briefly and then crashes back to the home screen.

      I went into installer to do a renistall of Cydia which went fine, but I still have the app crashing when I try to run it.

      What can I do? Could it have anything to do with commands I have run to get Finder working?

      I am not sure where or what to look at. I have set permissions to 0777 on Cydia.app and all the files inside. They are also Group: admin, Owner: root.

      Any help is appreciated.
      Quote Originally Posted by cantar74 View Post
      Yeah, I am having the same issues as Hyperextension. Is there a solution for this probelm. I would not want to have to restore my phone.
      ssh into your phone.
      issue the command:
      apt-get update