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  • Developer “Shocked” to Learn His Rejected App Now a Feature of iOS 5


    The jailbreak community routinely develops apps and other iOS enhancements that Apple either can’t or won’t come out with on their own. Sometimes, however, Apple does get inspiration from the jailbreak community and releases new features eerily similar to those first found in the Cydia online store. UK jailbreak developer Greg Hughes has now had a first hand experience with this phenomenon. When Apple unveiled iOS 5 earlier this week at the WWDC, he was quite surprise to find Wi-Fi Sync included as a new feature.

    Now you may be thinking that Apple was bound to come out with this feature sooner or later. However, Greg Hughes submitted an app called Wi-Fi Sync to the app store about a year ago. “I'd been selling my app with that name and icon for at least a year. Apple knew that, as I'd submitted it to them, so it was surprising to see that.”

    It was quickly rejected because of Apple’s claim that it violated the terms of the iPhone SDK. Apple representative did call him personally, however, to inform him of their decision.

    According to Mr. Hughes, "They did say that the iPhone engineering team had looked at it and were impressed. They asked for my CV (resume) as well." Since Wi-Fi Sync’s rejection from the App Store, Greg has sold more than 50,000 copies at $9.99 through the Cydia store.

    If you look at the two apps side by side, it’s easy to see why Mr. Hughes was "shocked" when he found out about it. Not only do both apps offer the same features, but the icons are remarkably similar as well.

    Would Apple have eventually come out with Wi-Fi Syncing. More than likely. Is this a bitter pill to swallow for the developer who first introduced this feature? Absolutely. I wonder what jailbreak features Apple will be inspired to include with next major iOS update?

    Source: Gizmodo
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Developer “Shocked” to Learn His Rejected App Now a Feature of iOS 5 started by Wiley John Wright View original post
    Comments 74 Comments
    1. TheDirtyDiddler's Avatar
      TheDirtyDiddler -
      Trust me, he's a bigger crook than Apple is.
    1. MalayZN's Avatar
      MalayZN -
      didn't the steal mobilenotifier?
    1. Stray's Avatar
      Stray -
      It isn't like they stole it in the first place.
    1. spice_weasel's Avatar
      spice_weasel -
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyDiddler View Post
      Trust me, he's a bigger crook than Apple is.
      Considering that wifi sync hasn't worked in a long while and wifi sync 2.0 still isn't out, looks like he missed his window of opportunity. he didn't seem to have any problem leaving his users high and dry after the iTunes update for, what, a year?
    1. subarurider's Avatar
      subarurider -
      I hope that Apple has fixed this app because it's been known to have caused lots of problems when installed on iPhones/Computers and attempting restores or updates using iTunes.
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      Quote Originally Posted by subarurider View Post
      I hope that Apple has fixed this app because it's been known to have caused lots of problems when installed on iPhones/Computers and attempting restores or updates using iTunes.
      Well that would be because of the way he did it. Or I should say that iTunes was not built to do it yet so of course it would not be compatible with everything.
    1. CrAzYiaN's Avatar
      CrAzYiaN -
      i would only sue for the Cost Cause he came out with that first, therfore Apple copied him and should at least give him a Percentage of money from that.
    1. Thenextkiller's Avatar
      Thenextkiller -
      Quote Originally Posted by snowdweller View Post
      Can he not sue for plagiarism? An idea he came up with and implemented into a paid product is now a free product with the same icon through apple.
      Its not a new idea, its just that he was the first one to do it.
    1. VBLUE42's Avatar
      VBLUE42 -
      All Apple has to do is show a patent or documentation that they have looked into the feature with previous iOS versions in the past and he will have no case. Also, Im sure there is wording in the SDK that claims Apple can adopt any feature into iOS regardless of weather someone has already developed an app for it without giving credit to anyone.
    1. PatrickGSR94's Avatar
      PatrickGSR94 -
      Surely he wasn't the first to think of syncing over wi-fi, though. I thought something like that had been available for much longer than a year now on Cydia.

      But still, 50K copies at 10 bucks each, he's probably made more there than he would have selling it through Apple.
    1. lokiju's Avatar
      lokiju -
      My $99 long dead and gone zune did wifi syncing. This guy didn't invent the idea.
    1. billmilo's Avatar
      billmilo -
      and we thought micro$odt was evil. apple is more evil than evil's mom and dad
    1. rud3bwoy's Avatar
      rud3bwoy -
      Quote Originally Posted by snowdweller View Post
      Can he not sue for plagiarism? An idea he came up with and implemented into a paid product is now a free product with the same icon through apple.
      if i was him id take legal action asap he has a good case.

      also isn't this the same guy that made the notifer app because that is also great in love with it!
    1. ronfin44's Avatar
      ronfin44 -
      He should sue them for copyright infringement.
    1. bllewisii's Avatar
      bllewisii -
      His idea wasn't exactly original. Yes, he might have attempted to bring it to iOS before in an app, but the idea isn't new. Wi-Fi syncing was definitely a noted feature with the Zune. (Yes, I actually owned one before I saw the light of the iPhone. ...that and my wife successfully coerced me into looking at iOS devices.) The icon isn't that spectacular either. Not like anyone else could have easily threw together a wi-fi symbol and arrows moving in a circular pattern. Also, like some earlier stated, unless Apple took the exact code that he wrote and used as their own, I don't see him having a chance in suing Apple.
    1. lfc_'s Avatar
      lfc_ -
      The icon is simply a Wi-Fi logo mixed with a sync logo... I dont really think they ripped him off at all, more coincidence then anything. It's a pretty obvious and generic icon.

      Wi-Fi icons: wi-fi - Google Search

      Sync icons: sync - Google Search

      The icon is simply a Wi-Fi logo mixed with a sync logo... I dont really think they ripped him off at all, more coincidence then anything. It's a pretty obvious and generic icon.

      Wi-Fi icons

      Sync icons
    1. dmbkiwi's Avatar
      dmbkiwi -
      Why does this page say there are 37 comments, but only one is displayed?

      Anyway, as they say, copying is the sincerest form of flattery, and with iOS5, Apple's gone all-aflatter:

      iOS5: innovating like a boss!
    1. ADF's Avatar
      ADF -
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyDiddler View Post
      His app worked like dogshlt on Windows, (meaning it didn't work at all), and offered virtually no support whatsoever, or no warning that it did so despite knowing this very well. It cost me $10 for nothing. Serves him right.
      +1 on that. The app has been updated in months.
    1. amazad's Avatar
      amazad -
      This made my chuckle... of course Apple would do that they HIRED a jailbreak developer for its notification app.

      Too bad for him though, I feel for ya
    1. tvadakia's Avatar
      tvadakia -
      I really doubt "pilfering" is the case here. WiFi syncing was just a natural next step in the evolution of design. And can you really expect the design of the icon to not be so similar? It, too, is a logical design, one that I would have mirrored by simple coincidence. Plus, I've used Wifi Sync, it was unreliable at best with my setup. I would hope Apple would steer clear of unreliable