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  • No NFC in iPhone 5?


    One of the biggest rumors being thrown around for next generation iDevices, particularly the iPhone 5 is that Apple is planning adding Near Field Communication (NFC) technology, which would allow iPhone users to shop and pay at retail locations using their phone, without the need for cash or card. According to new reports however, this technology has been scrapped, at least for the iPhone 5.

    According to the Independent, Apple recently let European phone carriers know that the iPhone 5 will not include the previously reported NFC payment system. The reason of the removal of this feature seems to be due to Apple's concern that there is no "standard across the industry" for wave-and-pay systems yet. It had been assumed at this point that Apple would be leading the way in creating its own NFC technology, which could theoretically create a industry standard, compatible with the wildly popular phone.

    It had been previously rumored that NFC would be in the iPad 2, which also came and went. It seems likely now that Apple's next iOS device will also lack the rumored feature, regardless of the previous reports from sources such as Bloomberg.

    Source:
    The Independent
    This article was originally published in forum thread: No NFC in iPhone 5? started by Matt Savoca View original post
    Comments 24 Comments
    1. Sem656's Avatar
      Sem656 -
      Why would they put it on the iPad 2? I never heard talk about it before it was out. That would be stupid who wants to carry it around while shopping?
    1. Colby21's Avatar
      Colby21 -
      i kinda knew this would happen. I feel like apple doesn't incorporate features unless they know there would be a huge market for it.
    1. kuhndsn's Avatar
      kuhndsn -
      Quote Originally Posted by Colby21 View Post
      i kinda knew this would happen. I feel like apple doesn't incorporate features unless they know there would be a huge market for it.
      Makes sense. I had the option in as well as many others in German a few years ago to pay for such things as taxi cabs, vending machines, etc... with the cell phone but never did it. In fact I don't think I ever seen anyone doing it. Pretty cool feature but I don't think people are ready for that yet. I also don't think our security infrastructure in cell tech is as secure as I would like it to be for that option. but... I am no expert nor am I up to speed on the encryption method...

      If they do offer it in the near future I think Ill step back and watch to see if there is a big security problem first.
    1. center_99_99's Avatar
      center_99_99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sem656 View Post
      Why would you even post that if you aren't saying anything about it? That's dumb.

      Why would they put it on the iPad 2? I never heard talk about it before it was out. That would be stupid who wants to carry it around while shopping?

      Hey, Negative Nancy! Yes there was talk about NFC on the iPad 2.

      Quit thinking with a one track mind. If the iPad 2 had transmit and receive NFC, an entrepreneur could take credit card payments via NFC card or iPhone(if/when equipped). Think about all the street vendors that work out of carts and trucks, they could Accept credit cards, and all they would need is an iPad.

      P.S. What's up with the recent influx of people being A'holes. I remember a year or two ago, and everyone was nice and helpful. These moderators and writers are doing this for you. If you don't like the content, go to another website.
    1. Reako's Avatar
      Reako -
      Quote Originally Posted by Colby21 View Post
      i kinda knew this would happen. I feel like apple doesn't incorporate features unless they know there would be a huge market for it.
      Why would any "profitable" business spend money on delivering "anything" without first knowing there is a market? I don't understand why you're acting as if Apple is alone on this. Hahaha
    1. novadam's Avatar
      novadam -
      Quote Originally Posted by Colby21 View Post
      i kinda knew this would happen. I feel like apple doesn't incorporate features unless they know there would be a huge market for it.
      Well ... except for the iPad, right?I mean, tablets had been flaming out for years before the iPad. Now it seems like everyone and their brother is coming out with their own clone, er, tablet. Apple basically created the market by doing it right.
    1. joshbot's Avatar
      joshbot -
      Apple shouldn't turn one of the most hacked devices in history into an automated personal money exchange machine. It would be like making a chainsaw with a toothbrush attachment on the end. Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be. Furthermore, Apple and you both would want ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE it's not going to do something unexpected due to avid modifiers or error. Let someone pioneer the chainsaw toothbrush technology. Sure Apple is ahead of the tech curve but where there's a will there's a way to hack.
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      NFC just seems like a bad idea. I mean, why even bother? Will this replace your wallet? No. It only takes a moment to swipe a card over a reader.

      It's not like anyone is 'burdened' by their wallet: "Jesus Christ," he said to himself, "having a wallet is unbearable - I wish there was another way to pay for things so I didn't have to carry around this heavy stack of little plastic cards!"
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jahooba View Post
      It's not like anyone is 'burdened' by their wallet: "Jesus Christ," he said to himself, "having a wallet is unbearable - I wish there was another way to pay for things so I didn't have to carry around this heavy stack of little plastic cards!"
      Actually... I have said that, but I have 10 cards, not counting my IDs.

      Two debit cards (Paypal, and bank)
      Two fuel cards (for purchasing gas)
      Two credit cards (travel expenses)
      Four loyalty cards (hotels, gas, etc..)

      A wallet gets painful with that much in it!


      Sent from my iPhone using ModMyi
    1. Snozberries's Avatar
      Snozberries -
      lets think back to intel's lightpeak that got assimilated by the borg and spit out as thunderbolt connections. hmmm. i'm sure apple will find and ultimately purchase some company that is making a headway in NFC...
    1. Kariodude's Avatar
      Kariodude -
      I feel like I should point this out every time I see "iPhone 5" mentioned. The next iPhone won't be called the iPhone 5. Apple doesn't name iPhones according to a series of numbers. The first one was called the 2g and the 2 after that were called 3G and 3Gs. If anything, the next phone will just be called the iPhone 4G and work on AT&T and Verizon's 4G networks.
    1. c0dy's Avatar
      c0dy -
      That would have been pretty sick. I'll upgrade again when 6 comes out, hopefully NFC is there by then.
    1. xclusiveiphone's Avatar
      xclusiveiphone -
      Now if only they would make it so that police will accept my drivers license from my iPhone then I can forget my wallet.
    1. krosis's Avatar
      krosis -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kariodude View Post
      I feel like I should point this out every time I see "iPhone 5" mentioned. The next iPhone won't be called the iPhone 5. Apple doesn't name iPhones according to a series of numbers. The first one was called the 2g and the 2 after that were called 3G and 3Gs. If anything, the next phone will just be called the iPhone 4G and work on AT&T and Verizon's 4G networks.
      The current "iPhone 4" model would seem to disagree with your theory.

      Besides I don't think people are really trying to "predict the name" like you accuse, so much as using a well understood term to refer to a future product. Calling it the "iPhone 4G" right now would be even more imprudent than calling it a 5, because it makes an assumption about a feature that hasn't been confirmed.
    1. center_99_99's Avatar
      center_99_99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kariodude View Post
      I feel like I should point this out every time I see "iPhone 5" mentioned. The next iPhone won't be called the iPhone 5. Apple doesn't name iPhones according to a series of numbers. The first one was called the 2g and the 2 after that were called 3G and 3Gs. If anything, the next phone will just be called the iPhone 4G and work on AT&T and Verizon's 4G networks.
      Apple named he first one iPhone, not iphone 2g. They didn't name the second one iPhone 2 because they wanted people to know it was 3G capable. The third one couldn't be called iPhone 3 because the iPhone 3G. Now we are on track with the 4th iPhone being named iPhone 4. My money is on iPhone 5 my friend.
    1. Reako's Avatar
      Reako -
      Quote Originally Posted by novadam View Post
      Well ... except for the iPad, right?I mean, tablets had been flaming out for years before the iPad. Now it seems like everyone and their brother is coming out with their own clone, er, tablet. Apple basically created the market by doing it right.
      Features != products. Remember that.
    1. ODB25's Avatar
      ODB25 -
      This is really the last thing I'd care to see on the next iPhone
    1. bigboyz's Avatar
      bigboyz -
      Haha...people neglect to remember Apple is a business 1st and foremost....2nd comes the title of technology front runner....business 1st :]
    1. Bluemoldycheeze88's Avatar
      Bluemoldycheeze88 -
      NFC and 4G not in the iPhone 5.

      Why? Simple not enough places have 4G networking and not enough business have NFC payment machines installed.

      Does paypass count as NFC?


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    1. southfrisco's Avatar
      southfrisco -
      This is not really all that surprising. There isn't a lot of need for NFC here in the states. The infrastructure is built upon the mag stripe. Why would Apple bother spending money on something that is not widely used in the states? For foreign members who might take exception with that comment keep in mind Apple is an American company.

      EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS WILL WORK WITHOUT NFC - Starbucks has a mobile card app. You register your physical Starbucks card and then can reload it with money from within the app. It applies a bar code with your account number on screen when you open up the app. Starbucks has gone to the expense of building this out within their stores by purchasing scanners for the app. You go to the counter, order, open the app which shows the bar code, wave it in front of their scanning device and it charges your account for the order total. Works pretty well and shows the receipt in app (with a backlog history of past purchases). If this is going to happen in the near future, that is how it will happen. At the expense of individual businesses, not Apple.