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  • SDK Coming | Apple Condones 3rd Party Apps
    October 17, 2007
    Third Party Applications on the iPhone
    Let me just say it: We want native third party applications on the iPhone, and we plan to have an SDK in developers’ hands in February. We are excited about creating a vibrant third party developer community around the iPhone and enabling hundreds of new applications for our users. With our revolutionary multi-touch interface, powerful hardware and advanced software architecture, we believe we have created the best mobile platform ever for developers.

    It will take until February to release an SDK because we’re trying to do two diametrically opposed things at once—provide an advanced and open platform to developers while at the same time protect iPhone users from viruses, malware, privacy attacks, etc. This is no easy task. Some claim that viruses and malware are not a problem on mobile phones—this is simply not true. There have been serious viruses on other mobile phones already, including some that silently spread from phone to phone over the cell network. As our phones become more powerful, these malicious programs will become more dangerous. And since the iPhone is the most advanced phone ever, it will be a highly visible target.

    Some companies are already taking action. Nokia, for example, is not allowing any applications to be loaded onto some of their newest phones unless they have a digital signature that can be traced back to a known developer. While this makes such a phone less than “totally open,” we believe it is a step in the right direction. We are working on an advanced system which will offer developers broad access to natively program the iPhone’s amazing software platform while at the same time protecting users from malicious programs.

    We think a few months of patience now will be rewarded by many years of great third party applications running on safe and reliable iPhones.

    Steve

    P.S.: The SDK will also allow developers to create applications for iPod touch.

    via apple

    Thanks JedixJarf, coreym, and everyone else who pmd me
    This article was originally published in forum thread: SDK Coming | Apple Condones 3rd Party Apps started by Cody Overcash View original post
    Comments 60 Comments
    1. cawaker's Avatar
      cawaker -
      This is very cool, but i bet it'll be exactly like the games for the ipod. personally tested and code checked by apple and sold via itms.

      theres just no other way to ensure the security that they want.

      which is fine by me, at least it wont be tons of crappy apps that crash the phone constantly like a Treo.

      granted it'll all cost money too that kinda sucks, but i dont mind paying for quality.
    1. sftl99's Avatar
      sftl99 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jayson9 View Post
      sure...... but then we would have to pay for all those cool apps!

      Probably better to keep it the way it is......
      I just hope I don't have to pay for the apps I've already donated to.

      At the same time, if the price is reasonable enough, it would be awesome to get to reward some of the hard working people that have already been working their arses off for us.


      Some people seem scared that this will kill some of their other apps. I'm sure at first it will, but cracking a digital signature will be easier than jailbreaking and all that other crap. I'm still on 1.0.2 cause I don't feel like figuring out how to do all the 1.1.1 stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong, it just seems like it'd be easier.

      One downfall...we'll be stuck with iTunes for apps instead of Installer.app! That'll suck!

      LGgeek, you quoted jealous soul:
      Let's hire the team that singlehandedly corrupted many consumers basebands and made their phones unusable. Great idea.
      Quote Originally Posted by LGgeek View Post
      No Apple did that.
      Actually, HE bricked his phone. Everyone and their cousin warned against updating to 1.1.1, if he didn't listen, HE bricked his own phone. There are plenty of T-Mobilers out there using their 1.0.2 iPhones with no issue.
    1. DoerrFan's Avatar
      DoerrFan -
      Quote Originally Posted by sftl99 View Post
      I just hope I don't have to pay for the apps I've already donated to.

      At the same time, if the price is reasonable enough, it would be awesome to get to reward some of the hard working people that have already been working their arses off for us.


      Some people seem scared that this will kill some of their other apps. I'm sure at first it will, but cracking a digital signature will be easier than jailbreaking and all that other crap. I'm still on 1.0.2 cause I don't feel like figuring out how to do all the 1.1.1 stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong, it just seems like it'd be easier.

      One downfall...we'll be stuck with iTunes for apps instead of Installer.app! That'll suck!

      LGgeek, you quoted jealous soul:


      Actually, HE bricked his phone. Everyone and their cousin warned against updating to 1.1.1, if he didn't listen, HE bricked his own phone. There are plenty of T-Mobilers out there using their 1.0.2 iPhones with no issue.
      I agree, unless the Dev's put him under gunpoint to do the unlock and then update....his fault not anyone elses.
    1. Apple Head's Avatar
      Apple Head -
      bad news apple is SELLING the way to install APPROVED third-party apps (i called the apple store in Pebody)
    1. hanz0e's Avatar
      hanz0e -
      Quote Originally Posted by Trent J. View Post
      I am sure they will be dumb and charge you...
      exactly

      Quote Originally Posted by jealous soul View Post
      Let's hire the team that singlehandedly corrupted many consumers basebands and made their phones unusable. Great idea.
      yes, it's the dev team's fault for helping users get out of at&t's ball and chain. i mean they purposely made anysim to corrupt baseband on future anti-unlock fw upgrades right? right? NO. gtfo.
    1. 2petros's Avatar
      2petros -
      This is an old senario:

      "If you can not control it then it is much better to embrace it."

      !!!!
      Well done to everyone that put an effort to dispute apple's iphone restrictions.
      !!!!

      apple and apps

      ----------------------

      This is an old senario:

      "If you can not control it then it is much better to embrace it."

      !!!!
      Well done to everyone that put an effort to dispute apple's iphone restrictions.
      !!!!
    1. Dash-2's Avatar
      Dash-2 -
      This is a great step.
      The problem is, I bet we're only gonna see companies like Google and Yahoo making application (that are accepted or that get an SDK )and no one else for a while/
    1. jedinight's Avatar
      jedinight -
      Quote Originally Posted by cash7c3 View Post
      so hostile. on both sides of this little (stupid/useless/inane) argument. jeeze folks need to grow up. you all have huge internet dicks, it shows, and they impress me. really. no joke.
      lol....hahahahaaha
    1. mofolo's Avatar
      mofolo -
      AHAH. Steve jobs must of got laid last night. lol.

      Woohoo, i bet you he'll release the SDK with the mobile version of leopard!

      erhh, now im hanging for it.. can't wait.
      Lets hope the release a video recorder, damn, i've missed so many uTube Moments.... Disappointing.
    1. mikef's Avatar
      mikef -
      to start, and i am hoping not to get a backlash from this, but......
      who cares if we have to pay 5 bucks to get an app from itunes!!!!! that money will go towards the dev team who built it and further their career in making more apps we like. you just have to pay for it once, for christ sake we all bought 600$ phone for and now you people ***** about something that may not have done in the first place(SDK). A special thanks to the DEV team for doing what they have done, becuase if they hadnt we would still be using stock 600$ phone that wouldnt be that cool to begin with! They made me tnot think of the money, they made me think what can be done with this machine. If apple wants to open this thing up to DEV's GOOD! Ill be the first to pay for what ever APP they come out with. THANKS MMI
    1. Bill69's Avatar
      Bill69 -
      ehhh it will probably cost
    1. tpd's Avatar
      tpd -
      I'm cool with paying a reasonable price for an app as long as there is a way to try it first. Some of the stuff on installer.app turned out to be not for me and I'd be a little upset if I had paid for thes apps.

      Supporting the developers who make stuff you like is a win-win.
    1. jayson9's Avatar
      jayson9 -
      I am sure Apple is not unlike any other business..... if the people are willing to pay for a Hummer then thats what they will get...... sunch as apps, upgrades, and anything else they can make money on. Like I said, keep it the way it is..... and let Apple compete with the "free" market.
    1. ohnonotme's Avatar
      ohnonotme -
      if people charge for these apps im gonna yell at them
    1. xplod4202's Avatar
      xplod4202 -
      So does this mean that with every update that Apple makes it will be easy for dev team to make apps for it. They won't have to hack it first and then make it compatible. If this is the case then this is some good news. There won't be a long wait for dev team to make adjustments to new updates. But all this will be happening after Apple will release their new OS.
    1. zoidberg md's Avatar
      zoidberg md -
      Quote Originally Posted by jayson9 View Post
      if the people are willing to pay for a Hummer then thats what they will get......

      DAMN STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!

      If I pay for a hummer and all I get is a HJ... then im getting pissed!!!!!!!! 15$ HJ??.... thats how people get a black eye and end up 1/2 dressed standing outside of the motel room....


      wait...............what are we talking about here?
    1. Eurisko's Avatar
      Eurisko -
      Interesting, just found this in the Business Journal:

      "Hackers who have explored the workings of the phone say it uses the frameworks and structures that Apple uses on its other platforms to enable development; it just hasn’t been documented. So if Apple is going to allow applications later, is there any reason — other than vindictiveness or obsessive interest in control — that it would want to cut off those developed by the pioneers who figured things out ahead of the official launch?"
    1. sailhome1's Avatar
      sailhome1 -
      One would hope that the SDK is a good thing, and certainly at one level it no doubt will be. More openness is better than being more locked out. I love the iPhone far more than my Treo, but I loved the Treo more than any other phone. iPhone extends on Treos innovations. We can try to debate the facts, but not my opinion.

      I'm in full support of having an SDK and certainly ok with paying reasonable prices. However, not all cool stuff is for a fee. For an example, I have created my own *.app "apps" for web links and speeddial buttons. Will that be allowed or will I have to charge myself? It's TOTAL BS to charge me to cut down a song that I already bought from iTunes into a ringtone. That's theft as far as I'm concerned. I am ok with making me use a song that I bought from iTunes (not loving it, but ok with it), but paying to tell it where to start and stop, that's BS.

      The bottom line is that this is a phone on a Mac-lette. Firewall the phone from the Mac and let us use the rest as a Mac if we choose (apps bought from whom I choose, wallpapers of my choice, icons, sound effects...even lets me screw with innards if I go into Terminal). Otherwise it really is just a Treo with a far better touch screen, SMS, eye candy and not so revolutionary after all. If letting us use the Mac part like a Mac (within limits of form factor) is too unsafe, then the Mac must be as well since mine is connected to the scary Internet all day and I have private stuff on there.

      $.99 songs came about because consumers told the players what they were willing to put up with as a business model (Jobs just used that leverage to make it happen). The same is true here.
    1. littlegame1's Avatar
      littlegame1 -
      I guess this would be called iWin for the iPhone!
    1. Gamunda's Avatar
      Gamunda -
      I'd be ok paying a few dollars per app if it goes to support the developers.