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    "Recently, Apple employee Greg Joswiak gave an interview with PC Magazine about the new iPod Touch and the Apple iPhone. In this interview Joswiak stated that Apple was taking a neutral stance on 3rd party native application development that has, and is currently taking place for the iPhone and now the iPod Touch.
    This was great news to us all.

    Unfortunately, hours after this interview was published online, Joswiak contacted PC Magazine to "update" and "clear up" Apple's position on 3rd party application development for both devices. In his follow-up Joswiak says that future software updates will most likely break native 3rd party apps.

    It is for that reason that we, the iPhone and iPod Touch community, wish to present this open letter and petition to Steve Jobs and all of Apple, Inc.

    We wish to simply ask that you do not break native 3rd party applications in future software/firmware updates. We are not asking for support for the 3rd party native apps, and we are not even asking for an official SDK. We are simply asking that you do not break the ability we currently have to create and run these native applications. While we are asking that you not intentionally break any of these "features"/abilities, we are also asking that you make at least some effort to ensure that none of these "features"/abilities break with upcoming updates.

    We see the 3rd party iPhone/iPod Touch development community as just that, a community of your customers who are gathering together to expand on, and improve the amazing and revolutionary product(s) that you have brought us.
    We also believe that our efforts only increase the "cool factor" of the iPhone and iPod Touch and only make the product(s) easier to sell. Many of us have been able to convince people we known to purchase the iPhone and/or iPod Touch by showing them the wonderful features that you have provided by default, and then sealing the deal by also showing them all the 3rd party work that is being done.

    We hope our work will bring more revenue to your company, and only ask in return that you continue to let us do what we are doing and create attractive, useful, and fun applications that make the iPhone and iPod Touch without a doubt the best product(s) of their kind on the market today and with both of our work, the market to come.

    Thank you for your time, and your consideration.

    Signed,

    The iPhone and iPod Touch Community "
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Keep Native Apps on the iPhone started by Cody Overcash View original post
    Comments 118 Comments
    1. Jacent's Avatar
      Jacent -
      Signed, and telling others.
    1. akim125's Avatar
      akim125 -
      signed
    1. billchase2's Avatar
      billchase2 -
      signed
    1. DarkDragonAn's Avatar
      DarkDragonAn -
      signed!
    1. Eyevanovich's Avatar
      Eyevanovich -
      All over that one!!!!!!
    1. Murfunit's Avatar
      Murfunit -
      Signed, but only because I would like to see third party apps developed and promoted.

      NOT because I think Apple is out to break the 3rd party apps.

      Face it: Third party apps, even the unlocks, sell phones. It would be foolish for them to intentionally look for ways to break them, or even relock the phones.

      I think what they're warning us about is that future updates may have to re-lock or otherwise break the apps, in order for the updates to be implemented at all. And in the event that happens then Apple will not take steps to avoid it.

      I still would rather have beneficial official updates than a 3rd party app. Shackling the devs by demanding they not break a widget is counterproductive IMO
    1. Criss's Avatar
      Criss -
      Quote Originally Posted by Murfunit View Post
      Signed, but only because I would like to see third party apps developed and promoted.

      NOT because I think Apple is out to break the 3rd party apps.

      Face it: Third party apps, even the unlocks, sell phones. It would be foolish for them to intentionally look for ways to break them, or even relock the phones.

      I think what they're warning us about is that future updates may have to re-lock or otherwise break the apps, in order for the updates to be implemented at all. And in the event that happens then Apple will not take steps to avoid it.

      I still would rather have beneficial official updates than a 3rd party app. Shackling the devs by demanding they not break a widget is counterproductive IMO
      I completely agree, but by that same token I don't think they should go out of their way to break apps. (unlocks are a different story since it is in essence breaking their deal with AT&T)
    1. iAmThePhone's Avatar
      iAmThePhone -
      Signed! I wouldnt even be buying a iPod Touch if I didnt know it was going to be hacked for apps.

      And nothing can ever be so secure everyone will forget about hacking it. The PSP hacking scene has been going on for a long time now and sony is always trying to find away to stop homebrew apps from being run on it, but they cant. The hackers keep going.
    1. netsyd's Avatar
      netsyd -
      Signed.

      Web 2.0 isn't ready to support all the data we generate and require to have with us all the time. #rd party apps are the only way to make the iPhone reach the potential that many of us think is has.

      I really wish Apple would just support 3rd party development. I don't see why an SDK can't be released and a certification program started to verify that 3rd party apps aren't going to upset the functionality and stability of the device...
    1. Spin This!'s Avatar
      Spin This! -
      Pointless endeavor. Petitions like this don't do squat. "We're not asking for a SDK but don't break our apps." Please.

      It's great Apple is taking a neutral stance in the first place... they could have easily locked it all down. What we should be asking for is an official SDK so developers don't have to sidestep around Apple. I'd imagine this might actually be coming with Leopard but we'll see.

      People who hack their phone should be smart enough to know how to update their software (both developers and end users) if it breaks. It's not like Apple is releasing daily software updates here either...

      People are misreading into this as "Apple hates hackers so every update will break their applications." Apple is not going out of their way to prevent hacking...
    1. Whoismiked's Avatar
      Whoismiked -
      Signed

      If they go forth with doing that im getting rid of my phone, period
    1. N818's Avatar
      N818 -
      Signed!!!
      I really hope they dont break our 3rd Party APPS.
    1. mikef's Avatar
      mikef -
      signed
    1. iphoneroeth's Avatar
      iphoneroeth -
      signed
    1. blacksailsmd's Avatar
      blacksailsmd -
      do not break my NES or TTR PLEASEEEE
    1. Jimbo's Avatar
      Jimbo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Criss View Post
      It's not that we're saying they will intentionally break apps. I think the real point of what Apple was saying is that they will be locking the phone back down so that we are unable to do these custom apps and things we have been doing.
      Nothing anywhere that I've read said that Apple would be locking the phone down to prevent 3rd party apps. I have no idea where you got that from.
    1. voreekman's Avatar
      voreekman -
      signed.
    1. vinko's Avatar
      vinko -
      signed
    1. ltjgpliskin's Avatar
      ltjgpliskin -
      Signed. and i know may people who will probably not buy if there is no 3rd party apps... lets hope it can go on for a while
    1. lordboard's Avatar
      lordboard -
      Signed