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  • 3g Settings in 2.0 Firmware
    As if there is any doubt that the 3g iPhone is coming soon. Some 3g settings have been found in the 2.0 firmware.



    The settings page was found in the latest beta release of 2.0 firmware. IF you don't know, 3g drains cell phone batteries very quickly. Don't worry in an effort to save some battery life Apple has included a setting to turn 3g off, and use normal slow edge instead.

    So with your 3g iPhone you'll have a choice, murder your battery or surf at 1995 speeds.

    thanks rusty778
    [chronicproductions via engadget]
    This article was originally published in forum thread: 3g Settings in 2.0 Firmware started by Cody Overcash View original post
    Comments 73 Comments
    1. skat9kat9's Avatar
      skat9kat9 -
      I just sold my 8gb for $300 on ebay four days ago, cracked screen and all. But now i'm stuck using my old Razr but still on the iphone data plan. Not sure about buying a 16gb (but apple doesn't have any) or just wait it out for the 3g. I'm going thru withdrawals here man . . .
    1. joshysquashy's Avatar
      joshysquashy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Squid7085 View Post
      Wow, some people are awfully stupid here. Just because they release the same software for a device doesn't magically make it have that feature. Every version of Windows includes support for A Laptop Battery, but just because you install Windows XP that doesn't mean you can unplug your computer and walk around. Go ahead, try it, I know you are curious now. I will wait....


      Rebooted yet? Alright. The iPod Touch has been running the same "Version" as the iPhones for as long as it has been out, that doesn't mean it can suddenly make calls. What people, okay, not normal people, either way, don't understand is that the current hardware can't support 3G, there is no "magic" to make this happen, period. If you want 3G, you need a new iPhone, period.
      Except Apple create the software for their hardware, so they don't support anything 3rd party. Microsoft create OS'es for all kinds of devices, so they include support for all kinds of components.

      Apple are working on 3G most likely because they are going to include it. It makes sense to as its an obvious upgrade. But it has its downsides (battery life, bulkiness etc.)
    1. Drakenza's Avatar
      Drakenza -
      Wow, I'm surprised Apple put that in there, knowing someone would eventually find it
    1. Apple iPie's Avatar
      Apple iPie -
      I wold MURDER my battery)))) Nice digging though....
    1. King Chronic's Avatar
      King Chronic -
      ohai i see that i received credit in the form of uber small text for my l33t findings
    1. wPz's Avatar
      wPz -
      waiting for 3G
      broke my iPhone a week ago
    1. dookie454's Avatar
      dookie454 -
      "3g murders battery life" - is this because a 3g Iphone will be used "MORE" or because "EDGE" stays connected so damn long trying to download one simple web page the phone overheats and you simply never use it again... therefore increasing battery life by not using it?????????

      3g probably downloads a web page in 1/10th the time.. enabling MORE web page download vs battery drain = more web page browsage.. = more actual usage = more precieved battery drain when in the end each MB download might use less battery simply because the phone gets it done MUCH faster.

      Beta testers... this would be a good study.

      I know my phone gets all hot sometimes just looking at weather.com
    1. nickkilla's Avatar
      nickkilla -
      wonder if it supports all flavors of 3g or just the us standard....hmmmmm
    1. GregTheWang's Avatar
      GregTheWang -
      Quote Originally Posted by Squid7085 View Post
      Wow, some people are awfully stupid here. Just because they release the same software for a device doesn't magically make it have that feature. Every version of Windows includes support for A Laptop Battery, but just because you install Windows XP that doesn't mean you can unplug your computer and walk around. Go ahead, try it, I know you are curious now. I will wait....


      Rebooted yet? Alright. The iPod Touch has been running the same "Version" as the iPhones for as long as it has been out, that doesn't mean it can suddenly make calls. What people, okay, not normal people, either way, don't understand is that the current hardware can't support 3G, there is no "magic" to make this happen, period. If you want 3G, you need a new iPhone, period.
      You made me lose the term paper I was typing up.
    1. nadiasortiz's Avatar
      nadiasortiz -
      UGH!!! WHY did they have to make a second generation iphone!!?? Looks like its time to save up for this new one and sell my 16gb! UGH they make me so mad!!
    1. iBwizzle's Avatar
      iBwizzle -
      I just wanna take the time to say haha to all the people who brought there iPhone within the last 3 months or so. Who cares if you paid $200 dollars cheaper. I had my 8GB iPhone the first week it came out; so, I pretty much had a year to enjoy my phone. I have faith in Apple and I believe this phone will be worst every penny. $500 deposit back from AT&T along with my $100 rebate from Apple. Yeah, I got the 3G iPhone already!!! q:-p..
    1. MattMac's Avatar
      MattMac -
      Quote Originally Posted by Squid7085 View Post
      Wow, some people are awfully stupid here. Just because they release the same software for a device doesn't magically make it have that feature. Every version of Windows includes support for A Laptop Battery, but just because you install Windows XP that doesn't mean you can unplug your computer and walk around. Go ahead, try it, I know you are curious now. I will wait....


      Rebooted yet? Alright. The iPod Touch has been running the same "Version" as the iPhones for as long as it has been out, that doesn't mean it can suddenly make calls. What people, okay, not normal people, either way, don't understand is that the current hardware can't support 3G, there is no "magic" to make this happen, period. If you want 3G, you need a new iPhone, period.
      OMG, I un-pluged it and it didn't power down. Could walk around with it and everything...wait, that's coz I have a laptop. Haha.
      Damn straight. Finally someone stood up to the noobs. Haha, was going to do it myself, but would have never been able to put it in such good words.


      Quote Originally Posted by joshysquashy View Post
      Except Apple create the software for their hardware, so they don't support anything 3rd party. Microsoft create OS'es for all kinds of devices, so they include support for all kinds of components.

      Apple are working on 3G most likely because they are going to include it. It makes sense to as its an obvious upgrade. But it has its downsides (battery life, bulkiness etc.)
      Why would Apple re-write the iPhone OS just for the next gen, when it has only just added the support of 3G and a few odds and ends?
      Its the same thing. There writing it so the OS is compatible with all generations of iPhones, making it easier to keep everyone up to date.

      Matt.


      P.S. If maybe 2.0 supports the proposed GPS and I put 2.0 on my 1st gen iPhone will I be able to use GPS on it? Bahahahah!
    1. burtthaman's Avatar
      burtthaman -
      Well technically with the appstore coming out. GPS on 1st gen iphones isn't far fetched as long as apple lets developers use the dock port. Like with the PSP hacking community. All it would take is a gps chip and an app released through the store to enable you to have true GPS. Honestly the same could be said about having 3G. Although I'm not sure apple would let someone make a 3G chip for the iPhone dock port seeing as it would make some people not upgrade. heh.

      One more thing. They have different versions of iPhone extended batteries that also plug into the port. It's actually kind of cool. And with the 3G phones coming out this may be a very nice accessory. You don't have to use it all the time but if you know you are going to be away from an outlet a long time you can carry it with you (like an extra laptop battery or even cell phone battery back in the day when you could change those out............by yourself...........) and never have to worry about battery life and 3G.

      Some links:

      FastMac iV iPhone Battery Pack - Includes a light (for seeing in the dark and taking pictures in dark places) and ability to charge other devices while plugged into iPhone. Even charge another iPhone... Can also plug into dock in order to charge both the iPhone and pack without removing. (pre-order status)

      Kensington Mini Battery Pack - Doesn't last as long as the previous but is very small and only sticks out the bottom instead of adding to the back.

      Kensington Battery Pack and Charger - The full blown brother to the previous model. This guy would be more for carrying around in a bag (like with your laptop) and plugging in when you can sit down somewhere but don't have access to an outlet.

      Richard Solo Battery Pack - This one is like the mini pack above but a bit larger. Good for keeping in your car or a backpack just in case. Also has a longer life than the mini.

      iPowerRush - The super cheap version of extended batteries. Lol... This thing probably works but you have to buy 6 AAA batteries to put inside it to charge your iPhone. After a few uses it would end up costing you more than just buying one of the other products but I figured I'd give the option.

      Also you will probably be able to use your phone's 3G capability to give your laptop internet anywhere. (you can already do this with edge).
    1. MattMac's Avatar
      MattMac -
      Quote Originally Posted by burtthaman View Post
      Well technically with the appstore coming out. GPS on 1st gen iphones isn't far fetched as long as apple lets developers use the dock port. Like with the PSP hacking community. All it would take is a gps chip and an app released through the store to enable you to have true GPS. Honestly the same could be said about having 3G. Although I'm not sure apple would let someone make a 3G chip for the iPhone dock port seeing as it would make some people not upgrade. heh.

      One more thing. They have 2 different versions of iPhone extended batteries that also plug into the port. It's actually kind of cool. And with the 3G phones coming out this may be a very nice accessory. You don't have to use it all the time but if you know you are going to be away from an outlet a long time you can carry it with you (like an extra laptop battery or even cell phone battery back in the day when you could change those out............by yourself...........) and never have to worry about battery life and 3G.

      Some links:

      FastMac iV iPhone Battery Pack - includes a light and ability to charge other devices while plugged into iPhone.
      Yes but the new iPhones will have extended battery life (would be stupid if it didn't). The old phones wont be able to hand the power demand... And even if you got a battery pack for the 1st gen, you would have no where to plug it as the port is already in use by the 3G adapter.
    1. mofolo's Avatar
      mofolo -
      Oh yay.

      Less battery life is everything the iphone needs.

      Quote Originally Posted by nadiasortiz View Post
      UGH!!! WHY did they have to make a second generation iphone!!?? Looks like its time to save up for this new one and sell my 16gb! UGH they make me so mad!!
      Well - it was kinda expected..

      How many Gens of Ipods are there!?
    1. MattMac's Avatar
      MattMac -
      Quote Originally Posted by mofolo View Post
      Oh yay.

      Less battery life is everything the iphone needs.



      Well - it was kinda expected..

      How many Gens of Ipods are there!?
      Hahaha, they just keep popping them out eh. Do you ever think they'll run out of ideas for new gens of iPods?
    1. burtthaman's Avatar
      burtthaman -
      Quote Originally Posted by MattMac View Post
      Yes but the new iPhones will have extended battery life (would be stupid if it didn't). The old phones wont be able to hand the power demand... And even if you got a battery pack for the 1st gen, you would have no where to plug it as the port is already in use by the 3G adapter.
      Ohh you misinterpreted what I was saying. The battery packs were for people worried about the new 3G iPhones. If my 3G adapter for 1st gen iPhones idea ever came to fruition (which I very much doubt it would) they could include it inside of a batter pack also. Making it able to charge and have 3G capability. But like I said I doubt any of that will happen.

      Having said that. Some rumors are saying the battery won't be extended much more than it already is. But even if they do extend it on the 3G iPhone then it will not really do anything since 3G takes more to use and keep on. And these products were made for Edge users to begin with so the same people will buy it for the 3G model regardless of apples stated battery usage (which is never on point).
    1. jiniej's Avatar
      jiniej -
      I really hope us 1st gen users get a discount, that would be good.
    1. Napoleon_PhoneApart's Avatar
      Napoleon_PhoneApart -
      Quote Originally Posted by mfleigle View Post
      This is an awesome feature for those of us without 3G coverage to turn it off. It really increased the battery life of my LG CU500 off.


      Thats before they found out if they released it with it, it would triple sales. But seriously even if they did upgrade the battery it would be nice to know turning it off saves battery. I remember they used to stay if you were in airplane mode it would save the battery.
      Maybe Apple has upgraded the battery. I'm sure that we laymen don't have all the facts yet...
    1. timjack2's Avatar
      timjack2 -
      The thing is, if they don't upgrade the batteries there is a lot less hassle for them as they can keep buying from the same company as the 1G iphones.