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  • Official Unlocked iPhones - NOT Officially Unlocked?
    Reports have been coming in that the French iPhones which were unlocked by Apple (yup, those ones that cost what amounts to roughly $1,000 USD), are actually NOT working outside of France - basically they were ONLY unlocked for French carriers. Any attempts to use them with OTHER carriers results in no phone functions (SMS, calls, etc) working.

    Can anyone in France or with an Orange-unlocked, French iPhone confirm or debunk this?

    update: Turns out running iWorld (available via Installer) on the phone WILL get it to work. Also, apparently Apple is calling this a "bug" and saying it should be fixed soon.

    UPDATE FURTHER: Orange responds and says "lies, all lies" to these allegations. Apparently, iPhone Atlas, who cited NO sources for their story, apparently did not have their story straight.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Official Unlocked iPhones - NOT Officially Unlocked? started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 39 Comments
    1. youcrazy's Avatar
      youcrazy -
      Quote Originally Posted by timwinslade View Post
      To answer your questions,
      It does not tell you that you can only use a french sim. Nor did the girl in France Telecom any sim any country were her words!

      The only reason that you need to provide Orange customer services with an address for is for them to post out the instructions telling you to restore your phone. Also I suppose to stop people from say the UK buying one to use in England. Luckly I my Family home is in france so I have an address there.
      If they fix this issue before a simunlock I'd be tempted to go to France and buy one... via va la France! Liberty!

      Mon Address? Sure Number 1 Château de Versailles, Paris...
    1. timwinslade's Avatar
      timwinslade -
      Just jailbreaked the phone installed iWorld and hey presto my officially sort of ish unlocked iPhone is now working with my vodafone sim without problems!!!!
    1. jmcallister's Avatar
      jmcallister -
      That is total crap. They arent really unlocked. Just unlocked to some carriers. I hope apple gets in trouble for this false advertising.
    1. compton,Tx's Avatar
      compton,Tx -
      I don't really understand why everyone is so upset? The phone's are unlocked for France, why would apple allow everyone to go to france and by an unlocked phone when they're selling them locked in Germany and England which is right next door? Come on now, this is still a business and there are a lot of politics in a huge corporation. Stop crying, and wait for the dev team to find an unlock or wait for the contract with ATT to expire. Where was everyone 5 years ago when the Razr came out? Only ATT had it, I wanted it but there was nothing I could do but either cancel and pay fees and sign with ATT or wait. So I waited for 3 years, finally got it.
      Stop your ******** about an fully unlocked phone, it's not going to happen for awhile!!!
    1. Bacchus's Avatar
      Bacchus -
      Quote Originally Posted by timwinslade View Post
      To answer your questions,

      The firmware version is 1.1.2 the modem version is 04.02.13_G.

      When you hit restore it downloads the 1.1.2 restore file installs it then opens the ITMS then after about 1 min it says your phone is unlocked.

      It does not tell you that you can only use a french sim. Nor did the girl in France Telecom any sim any country were her words!

      The only reason that you need to provide Orange customer services with an address for is for them to post out the instructions telling you to restore your phone. Also I suppose to stop people from say the UK buying one to use in England. Luckly I my Family home is in france so I have an address there.
      Did somebody capture the data coming from this download (1 min ITMS until message ?
    1. timwinslade's Avatar
      timwinslade -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bacchus View Post
      Did somebody capture the data coming from this download (1 min ITMS until message ?
      No data collected Sorry problem is you dont actually know when it will happen. I was restoring the phone every day waiting untill the unlock just kicked in.

      Quote Originally Posted by compton,Tx View Post
      I don't really understand why everyone is so upset? The phone's are unlocked for France, why would apple allow everyone to go to france and by an unlocked phone when they're selling them locked in Germany and England which is right next door? Come on now, this is still a business and there are a lot of politics in a huge corporation. Stop crying, and wait for the dev team to find an unlock or wait for the contract with ATT to expire. Where was everyone 5 years ago when the Razr came out? Only ATT had it, I wanted it but there was nothing I could do but either cancel and pay fees and sign with ATT or wait. So I waited for 3 years, finally got it.
      Stop your ******** about an fully unlocked phone, it's not going to happen for awhile!!!
      You cant just go to France and buy it unlocked Orange want ID, and a french address when you purchase it. Also when I activated it the iTunes asks for a valid french bank card to be added to the account. You would find it pointless buying one if you lived in England as you cant activate it through orange to then register for it to be unlocked.

      Why cry about it? I live in Spain and France one phone 2 sims makes sense. Better than paying to roam.
    1. Bacchus's Avatar
      Bacchus -
      Quote Originally Posted by timwinslade View Post
      No data collected Sorry problem is you dont actually know when it will happen. I was restoring the phone every day waiting untill the unlock just kicked in.
      The restore file is about 160 MB. You have to save the whole data you're getting and compare it with the "normal" download...
    1. jedinight's Avatar
      jedinight -
      i wonder if iworld would fix this...symptoms are deadon for iworld!!
    1. TatesMan's Avatar
      TatesMan -
      wrong news a friend of mine bought that unlocked french iPhone and he use it now in Denmark without a single problem
    1. dale1v's Avatar
      dale1v -
      Quote Originally Posted by compton,Tx View Post
      I don't really understand why everyone is so upset? The phone's are unlocked for France, why would apple allow everyone to go to france and by an unlocked phone when they're selling them locked in Germany and England which is right next door? Come on now, this is still a business and there are a lot of politics in a huge corporation. Stop crying, and wait for the dev team to find an unlock or wait for the contract with ATT to expire. Where was everyone 5 years ago when the Razr came out? Only ATT had it, I wanted it but there was nothing I could do but either cancel and pay fees and sign with ATT or wait. So I waited for 3 years, finally got it.
      Stop your ******** about an fully unlocked phone, it's not going to happen for awhile!!!
      ERM...if you paid 1000 euros for a phone that YOU EXPECT TO BE UNLOCKED and it isn't, then you might understand why people would be upset, perhaps?
    1. jayson9's Avatar
      jayson9 -
      Hmmmm..... My freedom fries taste really good right about now!!!
    1. dale1v's Avatar
      dale1v -
      Quote Originally Posted by jayson9 View Post
      Hmmmm..... My freedom fries taste really good right about now!!!
      lol
    1. jkfox121's Avatar
      jkfox121 -
      I think the fact that Apple has already acknowledged that this is a "bug", means they will fix it, so the phone will be a trully "factory unlock" for use in any country. Apple must have just overlooked this when they made their unlock software. I don't believe it was done on purpose.
    1. Eiswritsat's Avatar
      Eiswritsat -
      that sucks
    1. after556677's Avatar
      after556677 -
      Those of you with unlocked French or German iPhones go to George Hotz web site georgehotz.com he needs your help, thanks!!!
    1. Kyle Matthews's Avatar
      Kyle Matthews -
      Update in original post: turns out iPhone Atlas was mistaken.
    1. yowiphone's Avatar
      yowiphone -
      So it works any where?
    1. Kyle Matthews's Avatar
      Kyle Matthews -
      Thats what Valleywag is reporting.
    1. yowiphone's Avatar
      yowiphone -
      But its to expensive any way i dont know any one who will pay that much.