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  • German iPhones Unlocked via iTunes
    So we all know that the factory unlocked iPhone was coming, but we didn't know how it would get here.

    Would it be straight out of the box unlocked? The answer is no. When someone in Germany buys an unlocked iPhone the IMEI is first send straight to Apple. It takes Apple about 24 hours to update their database.

    At that point you just plug your iPhone into itunes and it is unlocked within seconds. This shows that iTunes is in fact capable of unlocking the iPhone. Will this system be hacked creating a whole new kind of unlock? We'll see . . .

    via macrumors
    This article was originally published in forum thread: German iPhones Unlocked via iTunes started by Cody Overcash View original post
    Comments 45 Comments
    1. krux's Avatar
      krux -
      Doesn't Germany also have the buyers right law (or whatever you call it), where you can return a product within 7 days if you are unhappy with it?

      That would give ze germans unlimited trials at examining the hopefully unencrypted packages and experimenting with this.

      I am guessing orange in France will have to use the same method .. 2 days left.
    1. exNavy's Avatar
      exNavy -
      Quote Originally Posted by iBwizzle View Post
      Now they wanna began to unlock the iPhone legally. How will this affect AT&T as the main service provider? iF all plays out well iWanna ditch my 2yr. agreement and hop on the prepaid data plan and get an separate unlimited callin' service provider.
      The A in AT&T stands for American. Last time I checked AT&T didn't operate outside of the U.S. So how is a program for German citizens going to affect America? The phone is even more expensive there than here, let's not forget shipping adds at least $90 on top of that. Not a very attractive scenario if you are an American contemplating an unlocked phone being shipped to you from Germany.
    1. brunophoto's Avatar
      brunophoto -
      Quote Originally Posted by krux View Post
      Doesn't Germany also have the buyers right law (or whatever you call it), where you can return a product within 7 days if you are unhappy with it?

      That would give ze germans unlimited trials at examining the hopefully unencrypted packages and experimenting with this.

      I am guessing orange in France will have to use the same method .. 2 days left.
      Yes, quite probably. The good news is that the French iPhone community is VERY active, unlike it seems ze German one...As the french have an Installer app repository, I wouldn't be surprised if they posted, hmm, something interesting quite soon after they got their hands on an "officialy" unlocked iPhone.
    1. cranie's Avatar
      cranie -
      I was walking in the mall 2 days ago and at one kiosk that sells phone accessories (chargers and tacky covers) they had a sign that said "We unlock phones" and had pictures of cel phones (not iPhone).
      I laughed when I saw it and thought "Wow how ballsy to advertise"

      I'm not up on other phones but is there such a thing as unlocking cel phones in general or have I been in Apple mode for too long?
    1. jam's Avatar
      jam -
      ye other phones need unlocking^^ unless bought sim free or not locked by the provider lol you have been in apple mode to long.
    1. river4099's Avatar
      river4099 -
      All cell phones are generally sold locked in North America, but I know that AT&T will give you the unlock code if you ask as long as you've been a customer for more than 3 months. I have a few AT&T unlocked RAZR in the family for foreign travel use. I suspect they may hand out unlock code for the iPhone in the future, or they may not.
    1. DoerrFan's Avatar
      DoerrFan -
      This could work, all we do is just change where iTunes sends the IMEI to, to our own server and get that unlock issued. Easier said then done. Or maybe entering a special number for the IMEI (all 0's for instance) gets the unlock done. In any case, good news, iTunes can unlock phones!
    1. mofolo's Avatar
      mofolo -
      Erh, if anyone said, Change your IMEI to a german one, I'm pretty sure that'll land you like 7 years in jail..

      Its a really serious offense.

      And even if we could change the IMEI to something else, im sure apple would have a database of all the phones that are pending unlock.

      Its gonna be damn hard guessing them IMEI's...
    1. csc2ky's Avatar
      csc2ky -
      Apparently there are quite a few people, also from the surrounding countries of Germany, who are very much interested in an unlocked iPhone. The German news are full of complaints of people who run into one of the T-Mobile stores to purchase an iPhone and the staff is not even informed yet about how to tell them about activation. As of T-Mobile the process when buying an iPhone that will be unlocked is getting the IMEI # from the phone along with the iTunes eMail add of the customer. I donít know, if you should submit a different eMail add than the one registered with iTunes will make the unlock process not workable?!

      Furthermore there is quite some news of people from other European countries, who are going to Germany to get the unlocked phone. Then for their great surprise to figure out that the SIM unlock can take up to 10 days from Apple and even if their SIM cards are working they surprisingly have to suffer from not working SMS and crashing phone apps.

      Looks like the T-Mobile staff mostly donít know anything about unlocking iPhoneís. The spinning managers are telling a program like this came so surprising and training their staff for something that fits on a small piece of paper would take weeks if not months.

      By the way, Debitel, another German cell network provider announced a new plan for the iPhone in Germany for next week. They are telling that anyone who buys the unlocked iPhone for 999.00 Euro (~1,500.00 USD) from T-Mobile will get 600 Euro (900.00 USD) back from Debitel if an iPhone contract is closed with Debitel for 2 years. The contract prices are slightly less expensive. Although there are no information about Hot Spot usage and alike available, the better contract deal sticks to T-Mobile.
    1. 5h00p3r_MAN's Avatar
      5h00p3r_MAN -
      Legitly unlocked phones will be extremely useful because you can update the firmware on them without any damages to your phone...
    1. catriple's Avatar
      catriple -
      Quote Originally Posted by 5h00p3r_MAN View Post
      Legitly unlocked phones will be extremely useful because you can update the firmware on them without any damages to your phone...
      Wow... Captain Obvious strikes again!
    1. icepick4u's Avatar
      icepick4u -
      Quote Originally Posted by 5h00p3r_MAN View Post
      Legitly unlocked phones will be extremely useful because you can update the firmware on them without any damages to your phone...
      no kidding !!!!
    1. maXimus's Avatar
      maXimus -
      Brilliant deduction!!!
    1. daveparki's Avatar
      daveparki -
      Quote Originally Posted by cash7c3 View Post
      So we all know that the factory unlocked iPhone was coming, but we didn't know how it would get here.

      Would it be straight out of the box unlocked? The answer is no. When someone in Germany buys an unlocked iPhone the IMEI is first send straight to Apple. It takes Apple about 24 hours to update their database.

      At that point you just plug your iPhone into itunes and it is unlocked within seconds. This shows that iTunes is in fact capable of unlocking the iPhone. Will this system be hacked creating a whole new kind of unlock? We'll see . . .

      via macrumors
      but just thinking ......... if they can unlock phones through itunes,......... what stops them locking illegally unlocked ones, just a thought, regards
    1. maXimus's Avatar
      maXimus -
      My phone has been connected to iTunes for over 24 hours but still it's locked. Is there an "unlock" button somewhere in iTunes?
    1. davalos's Avatar
      davalos -
      Quote Originally Posted by maXimus View Post
      My phone has been connected to iTunes for over 24 hours but still it's locked. Is there an "unlock" button somewhere in iTunes?
      lol at you.
    1. muccaeppollo's Avatar
      muccaeppollo -
      Orange announced pricing for the iPhone in France today.

      Orange will be selling the iPhone for 399 euro along with one of four plans with prices ranging from 49 euros to 119 euros per month. All plans include unlimited internet and visual voicemail.

      Customers who don't wish to subscribe to those particular plans can instead pay 549 euro and use another Orange plan. Finally for 649 euro, customers can purchase an iPhone with no required contract or obligation to Orange. The iPhone itself, however, will still need to be unlocked. With all options (399, 549, 649 euro), any customer may unlock the iPhone for an addition 100 euro during the first six months. After six months, the iPhone may be unlocked for free in accordance with French law.
    1. Nemesis45's Avatar
      Nemesis45 -
      Man thats soo cool! save yourself alot of time
    1. thedirtyone's Avatar
      thedirtyone -
      Quote Originally Posted by daveparki View Post
      but just thinking ......... if they can unlock phones through itunes,......... what stops them locking illegally unlocked ones, just a thought, regards
      I think words are getting thrown around and mixed up. It's not "illegal" to unlock your iPhone. Unlocking your iPhone via an alternate method other than iTunes is not supported by Apple.

      Apple won't go out of their way to unlock your specific iPhone. As with the previous unlocked iPhones, Apple didn't re-lock the phones. The user did. Apple even warned people about applying future firmware releases as they may render the iPhone useless if you've unlocked it previously.

      With all that said, if a true unlock is achieved (via iTunes workaround or other), firmware updates shouldn't re-lock your phone as it has been already unlocked. I highly doubt that Apple would purposely lock phones. With select European countries getting a by with unlocked iPhones, it will only be a matter of time before the same happens everywhere else.
    1. cawaker's Avatar
      cawaker -
      This may have been already said, but I can't imagine apple doesnt do a cross check of the serial number/IMEI of iphones sold in germany and your phone when you plug it into itunes and request an unlocking.

      So I doubt this method will help american iphones to be unlocked because the itunes database will cross check if that serial number/IMEI is actually a german t-mobile phone and thus allowed to be unlocked.

      although like others have mentioned, maybe someone can set up a proxy and a backend server that emulates the apple databse, but i cant see that being very simple to set up.