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  • Vodafone Attacks!
    Vodafone is legally attacking T-Mobile Germany, saying they must stop selling the iPhone if it is only associated with a 24 month contract when sold.

    According to T-Mobile, the "legal basis for the injunction is being examined," but as of yet they are not stopping their sales or changing their policies.

    Could be good for all of us!

    UPDATE: T-Mobile is now offering the iPhone for sale unlocked in their German stores at a price of 999 Euros, or ~1500 USD.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Vodafone Attacks! started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 31 Comments
    1. dej4y's Avatar
      dej4y -
      only good for germans, they are not talking about unlocking the phones simfree but merely that in germany the only way to buy the iphone is to buy the contract aswell. whereas in the UK you can buy the iphone on the pretence you'll buy the contract later.
    1. Kyle Matthews's Avatar
      Kyle Matthews -
      Exactly.
    1. dale1v's Avatar
      dale1v -
      Serves Apple right, in my opinion. Just when you thought they would get away with their extortion.
    1. Eurisko's Avatar
      Eurisko -
      The Germans said they are trying to set a precedence, so other companies don't follow Apple's lead and start requiring long contracts with the sale of their phones. That kinda daft thinking (Apple's) would shred the market.
    1. Tommer's Avatar
      Tommer -
      Here in Belgium there already is a law against selling phones (or any other device) that are associated with a certain provider. So I wonder how Apple is going to get around this. Maybe they won't sell the iphone here at all..
    1. tuomas92's Avatar
      tuomas92 -
      Quote Originally Posted by dej4y View Post
      only good for germans, they are not talking about unlocking the phones simfree but merely that in germany the only way to buy the iphone is to buy the contract aswell. whereas in the UK you can buy the iphone on the pretence you'll buy the contract later.
      How different buying iPhone in Germany is from buying iPhone in UK? From Apple's website I understand that it's the same: you go to T-Mobile store, buy an iPhone and then pay for the contract later when setting up the phone in iTunes. Or is it? Can't you just get the phone and then unlock it so it can be used with any carrier (yes, I know you can't unlock iPhones with new bootloaders just yet)? Sorry, a lot of questions but I'm a little confused.
    1. noob2profi's Avatar
      noob2profi -
      in germany you have to sign the contract in the store!
    1. tuomas92's Avatar
      tuomas92 -
      Quote Originally Posted by noob2profi View Post
      in germany you have to sign the contract in the store!
      Many thanks for this info.
    1. Colonel_Klinck's Avatar
      Colonel_Klinck -
      I heard a disscusion on the radio the other day, where they believed in France Apple were going to have to sell an unlocked version of the iphone, as well as the version tied to Orange. I heard this was down to French law. Apple it was thought would sell a much more expensive version to make it less attractive and to gain back what they would loose in profits made from calls.
      Not sure if this is the case but the program was either Radio 4 or Radio 5 Live (UK)
    1. yowiphone's Avatar
      yowiphone -
      Quote Originally Posted by noob2profi View Post
      in germany you have to sign the contract in the store!
      How about if you order it online o_0
    1. Raduletzgo's Avatar
      Raduletzgo -
      How about if you order it online o_0
      U can't! If you wanna buy an iPhone in Germany
      u need to go to the T-Mobile store, sign the contract
      and pay 399 .
    1. ktb's Avatar
      ktb -
      Today the german Telekom / T-Mobile announced to sell the iPhone without SimLock for 999 .
      I think, this is because of the Vodafon action.

      I hope the "Free" System will be released in any forum.
    1. tuomas92's Avatar
      tuomas92 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Raduletzgo View Post
      U can't! If you wanna buy an iPhone in Germany
      u need to go to the T-Mobile store, sign the contract
      and pay 399 €.
      Well, Apple tells me on its own website very clearly that I can get iPhone from T-Mobile store, T-Mobile online store and Apple online store.

      Link: http://www.apple.com/de/iphone/buy/

      Edit: Hmm, looks like you can't get iPhone itself direct from Apple. Apple just sells accessories for it.
    1. Raduletzgo's Avatar
      Raduletzgo -
      Allright, even if you can buy it online, you still need to sign the contract.
    1. tuomas92's Avatar
      tuomas92 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Raduletzgo View Post
      Allright, even if you can buy it online, you still need to sign the contract.
      Yeah, I just noticed that too. I'll turn to look at the UK-phone then
    1. gorgont's Avatar
      gorgont -
      You can buy the iPhone for 999 Euros SIMLOCKFREE in the T-Mobile Store

      I will go there and buy one and send it to the dev team if i have the money
      Help me and donate 1 or 2 $ via paypal to [email protected]


      Maybe the hackern can find a way to free our iphones :-)
    1. seabass's Avatar
      seabass -
      they also unlock phones that were sold on the 19th till today. the 19th was the day of the restraining order.
      So this would mean that they have a special tool from apple that does unlock it as it was reportet that they dont exchange the phones but unlock them richt in the store!
    1. muccaeppollo's Avatar
      muccaeppollo -
      To be in compliance with a court ruling, Deutsche Telekom announced today that they will immediately start selling an unlocked iPhone without contract for 999 euro (US $1,477). The iPhone will still be sold, as before, with 2 year contract for 399 euro ($US $590).

      Bloomberg reports that customers who purchased the iPhone in Germany after November 19th may have their iPhone unlocked for free. Existing German iPhone customers can reportedly also receive the unlock for a fee.

      Prior to this, the only unlocked iPhones in existence have been "hacked" with 3rd party applications. This introduces legitimate unlocked iPhones into the marketplace that will presumably withstand future iPhone software updates.
    1. caelis666's Avatar
      caelis666 -
      Let's hope someone finds a way to make iPhones simlock-free without having to worry for any other firmware updates!

      I can't imagine to see german customers go back to t-mobile stores everytime they've updated their firmware
    1. Dnc95's Avatar
      Dnc95 -
      Now all we have to do is get the Unlocked Firmware and Baseband software from an unlocked iPhone and upgrade our locked phones! Is it just me or is this pretty exciting!
      No more downgrade/upgrade/virginize... Not that I don't appreciate all the hard work the dev team and all the other software geniuses out there put into jailbreaking/unlocking and apps, but wouldn't this mean we could basically upgrade and not brick our iphones?