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    Some people don't like iTunes. Some other people decided to start discussing how to sync music to their libraries on the iPhone and iPod Touch without iTunes. Some more folks at Apple decided that iTunes must be the only option and shut down development discussion for syncing without iTunes.

    Users over at Bluwiki were having discussions on a few pages about how to sync media onto the iPhone and iPod Touch from sources other than iTunes. According to the Apple lawyers these discussions violated the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA) which is in place to stop the writing of code and sharing of information that could potentially be used to bypass copyright protection (funny that Apple is getting rid of DRM at the same time).

    From Apple to Bluwiki (click here for more emails):
    Mr. Odio:

    We represent Apple Inc. ("Apple"). It has come to our attention that a
    website you operate, www.bluwiki.com, is disseminating information
    designed to circumvent Apple's FairPlay digital rights management
    system. This information is available at
    http://bluwiki.com/go/Ipodhash.

    FairPlay is considered anti-circumvention technology under the Digital
    Millennium Copyright Act. The DMCA explicitly prohibits the
    dissemination of information that can be used to circumvent such
    technology.

    Apple therefore requests that you immediately disable the thread at
    http://bluwiki.com/go/Ipodhash. Please notify me by reply e-mail once
    you have done so, and feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

    Sincerely,

    /s/ Ian Ramage
    Unfortunately for all of you interested in syncing media from places other than iTunes Bluwiki has complied to Apple's demands and taken down the pages as requested by Apple. On the plus side it is possible that discussion may be able to resume in the future since the Electronic Frontier Foundation has agreed to represent Bluwiki on the matter.

    This is also bad news for those of us that have been watching the progress of PwnPlayer eagerly. A possible future update to PwnPlayer would include the ability to sync music downloaded via dtunes or mewseek into your iTunes Music library on the iPhone. Undoubtedly if that feature was ever completed PwnPlayer would become a target in Apple's legal sites for the same reasons mentioned above

    thanks Derrick for the tip!
    This article was originally published in forum thread: You MAY NOT Sync Without iTunes started by Cody Overcash View original post
    Comments 33 Comments
    1. 96hondaex's Avatar
      96hondaex -
      Ooh damn! Apple!
    1. jrentzke's Avatar
      jrentzke -
      control, control, control - damn apple, it feels like I'm at school again! :-(
    1. wildgene789's Avatar
      wildgene789 -
      personally i enjoy itune and the only reason i dont switch to Ubuntu is for that absolute reason...if they had itunes on ubuntu it would be a done deal lol.
    1. NakedFaerie's Avatar
      NakedFaerie -
      Another reason Apple sucks.
    1. centori's Avatar
      centori -
      I don't sync, just use iphone as a backup drive..... LOL
    1. bruinsrme's Avatar
      bruinsrme -
      I am relatively new to using any Apple device.
      Has Apple always been so controlling of all there products or is it just on the iphone?
    1. E-Dragon's Avatar
      E-Dragon -
      Quote Originally Posted by bruinsrme View Post
      I am relatively new to using any Apple device.
      Has Apple always been so controlling of all there products or is it just on the iphone?
      "Come to the dark side Luke"
      They are the dark overlords
      The witch gave a "APPLE" to snow white

      Does this kinda answer your question???
    1. groundedsst's Avatar
      groundedsst -
      Looks like they may need to contact these people




      they can use the DaVinci virus to take down the system.
    1. hybirdd's Avatar
      hybirdd -
      ouchhh that ian rammage dude is a person you don't want trouble with



      *shakefist*

      as a side note did you knew that person worked at IBM?
    1. mgamber's Avatar
      mgamber -
      Wow...and some people STILL think Microsoft is the evil corporation.

      "In this era of global democracy and freedom, think different. Think Apple."
    1. cricketlang's Avatar
      cricketlang -
      whatever. apple just keeps getting worse and worse with thier crap.They just refuse to accept that people may want something different. could you immagine buying a car and having the manufacturer tell you that you cant to anything to the car or take it anywhere else for repairs....even though you bought the car. Apple needs to get over this crap. not likely gonnna happen but these are the things i use in defense when people tell me macs are better than pc's. take your macs and your apple products....and love them...and bow down to what apple tells you. you see mac users arent becoming less and less unique with no chance for diversity (other than the fact they use a mac) everything is so locked down. Apple is literally trying to OWN its customers. I cant really express my real feelings about this whole thing because that would not be appropriate here but just know that apple gets a giant thumbs down and frown from me.

      "It just works".......because they are the only ones allowed to make it work THIER way
    1. blazingangel1986's Avatar
      blazingangel1986 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jrentzke View Post
      control, control, control - damn apple, it feels like I'm at school again! :-(
      same ol drama apple wants to stangle its hold on everybody
    1. Napoleon_PhoneApart's Avatar
      Napoleon_PhoneApart -
      "Think Different"

      Just not with our hardware.
    1. tmas73's Avatar
      tmas73 -
      Quote Originally Posted by bruinsrme View Post
      I am relatively new to using any Apple device.
      Has Apple always been so controlling of all there products or is it just on the iphone?
      Mac only user here since 1994!

      No Apple emerged in the end 80s and 90s as "THINK DIFFERENT" more for artists and less office like, their original philosophy was to create tools for artists with artists, and opened their software for lots of new development in the early years. Apple stood for standing up to the man, revolute against the system and be very liberal overall. This changed when Jobs got fired in the 90s , the new CEO run Apple to the ground with stock under $20 or so. Then they hired back Jobs and new iMacs and Power Macs where born. With that apple started growing and growing and their only goal now is PROFIT to keep stock holders happy! So watch out apple, one day someone comes along and pushes you of your high horse. It happend to all big greedy companies. One disasters release on any big product like the iPhone and Apple will go down fast.

      Apple Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      I like iTunes, I just wish more devices could sync with it like my PSP or my PS3.
    1. jimbeam4581's Avatar
      jimbeam4581 -
      I really like the way itunes looks and works as far as playlists and things like that. For buying music never. I need to be able to put that music on any device I have not just apple products. I also do not like having to jump threw hoops to share music on my own network or even multiple accounts on the same computer.

      I guess my only problem with iTunes is I can only use it with ipods and iphones. Most of my problems are with DRM and I'm not paying a premium for DRM free music.
    1. eg6motion's Avatar
      eg6motion -
      I hate itunes as well. I think the design looks nice, and the features can be ok BUT its horrible software. Its no different to bloatware/crapware that comes preinstalled on most pc's nowadays except we are forced to use it if you want one of their devices. I wish they would just strip it down to a program that actually performs. My pc is not slow by any means but damn does iTunes hogg as much resources as possible.
    1. prophets's Avatar
      prophets -
      Quote Originally Posted by eg6motion View Post
      I hate itunes as well. I think the design looks nice, and the features can be ok BUT its horrible software. Its no different to bloatware/crapware that comes preinstalled on most pc's nowadays except we are forced to use it if you want one of their devices. I wish they would just strip it down to a program that actually performs. My pc is not slow by any means but damn does iTunes hogg as much resources as possible.
      I just recently bought a mac, does anyone notice that itunes also takes up alot of memory on the mac as much as it did on the pc?
    1. Nefarious's Avatar
      Nefarious -
      Syncing via exchange for calendar, contacts, and mail. App store or ********** for application installs. Pwnplayer for music and uploading via diskaid or SSH. Who needs itunes except for firmware changes?
    1. dr.stevil's Avatar
      dr.stevil -
      figures... Apple restricting thier customers? no way

      This isn't a very big surprise. While I like apples products, I would LOVE to see them loose a large legal battle over something like this.

      It's this business model that's restricting them too. Imagine the market share they'd gain over night if they released OS for any PC?

      Quote Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
      Syncing via exchange for calendar, contacts, and mail. App store or ********** for application installs. Pwnplayer for music and uploading via diskaid or SSH. Who needs itunes except for firmware changes?
      x2 same here. I ONLY use itunes to backup/restore/upgrade firmware