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    A Catholic bishop has approved Confession: A Roman Catholic App, to allow Catholic iPhone users examine their consciences before seeing a priest. Though there's a clear explanation in the app's download page, and Bishop Kevin Rhoades of the Diocese of Fort Wayne, Indiana in the USA explained that it cannot replace the actual Sacrament of Reconciliation, some news accounts suggested you could "confess by iPhone." The Vatican's press secretary released an official statement today confirming that "one cannot speak in any way of confessing via iPhone."

    The developer, Patrick Leinen of developer Little iApps, said that he wrote the app "to invite Catholics to engage in their faith through digital technology." He claims it has already helped one person come back to the church after 20 years away. It's designed to be used in the confessional, as an aid to people who were not raised in the Church's traditions or have forgotten them after a long absence. For example, it prompts the user for the correct response when the priest says "give thanks to the Lord for he is good," which is to say "For his mercy endures forever." The app also walks the user through questions about actions that are contrary to the teachings of the Church, organized using the Ten Commandments.

    Despite the fact that the app's iTunes page explains that "it does not and can not take the place of confessing before a validly ordained Roman Catholic priest in a Confessional, in person, either face to face, or behind the screen," there were some reports that the Bishop's imprimatur meant you could receive absolution using this app. When Federico Lombardi, director of the Holy See Press Office, said that the app is "by no means a substitute for the sacrament," this was also mixed up, with headlines like "Vatican bans Confession via iPhone." However, Father Lombardi clearly explained in his statement that "in a world in which many people use computer support for reading and reflection, digital technology can be useful in the preparation for confession."

    In addition to the many mistaken reports, there was also some inevitable snickering by some commentators about using the app's categorizing of sins as a "to-do list." You don't have to share the dev's beliefs, of course, but it doesn't hurt anybody to be a little respectful. This seems to be a well-intentioned effort to help Catholics connect with their tradition. Confession: A Roman Catholic App is $1.99 on the iOS App Store.

    Source: CNET
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Confusion About Confession App started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 220 Comments
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by Captinsmooth View Post
      2$ million in debt, to whom is this debt owed? If they are in that kind of debt there presence would cease to exists in your community. Catholic Churches survive off donations from their congregation and organizational charities, along with living cost allowance paid by the Vatican if needed. I don't see how they could be in this kind of debt, unless they had to pay in a law suite, like many other catholic dioceses have had to in the past years....
      Don't go there. Anyway it may have been 2 hundred thousand, I'll have to check again.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by Captinsmooth View Post
      The other thing this app screams false idol...wtf lol
      How? As far as I see it's only provides reference to see where you have sinned. Did you even read the first paragraph?
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zokunei View Post
      I don't know I never defended the app.

      Actually, the app isn't for confessing if you read the article or even looked at the picture, it's for examining yourself to see where you have sinned. It actually sounds pretty useful.
      I wasn't directing that comment towards you. I was just throwing out my thoughts! :-)

      I believe, we can examine ourselves w/out the need for an app or a person or even a church. The latter two help us to see more about ourselves but the ONLY requirement in all of this is knowing God is always there.
    1. Captinsmooth's Avatar
      Captinsmooth -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zokunei View Post
      How? As far as I see it's only provides reference to see where you have sinned. Did you even read the first paragraph?
      You are right, they aren't confessing to the app. I was thinking they were in my head when I wrote it. It does say as a reference before you confess.
    1. Sniper488's Avatar
      Sniper488 -
      2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
      3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
      4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
      5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
      6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
      7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
      8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
      9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
      10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
      11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by thazsar View Post
      I wasn't directing that comment towards you. I was just throwing out my thoughts! :-)

      I believe, we can examine ourselves w/out the need for an app or a person or even a church. The latter two help us to see more about ourselves but the ONLY requirement in all of this is knowing God is always there.
      It's still a handy reference though. I'm not saying anyone needs the app, but I don't see anything wrong with it.

      By the way, I'm not going to answer questions that I already answered anymore. This isn't aimed at the person I'm quoting.
    1. jamriman's Avatar
      jamriman -
      I think the whole concept is insane. The thought of this just makes me feel guilty.
    1. Lokenall's Avatar
      Lokenall -
      Quote Originally Posted by creasy425 View Post
      Sits back, grabs popcorn, and waits for this thread to EXPLODE!!! Its about religion/faith, you know it will.....
      LOL. Right there with you. Want me to bring the drinks. Lol
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      It will be closed if it gets out of hand
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Luckily that hasn't happened yet. I was worried something might spark with one of CaptainSmooth's comments though.
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zokunei View Post
      It's still a handy reference though. I'm not saying anyone needs the app, but I don't see anything wrong with it.
      I gotcha and I agree. Its always a plus when the Word is being spread!

      This app does not state that you confess to it nor does it claim that you 'have' to use it in order to examine yourself. It is a reference...that's all.

      People, unfortunately, are so consumed with quick-fixes that they lose site of what is Biblically acceptable and what isn't. 'People' nowadays 'can be' so naive and actually think an app will wash away their sins! That's hilarious (and ridiculous) to me! It's like the portable heater app or fingerprint scanner app in the app store. C'mon...r u seriously thinking it's real!
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      I hope the number of people that think that is low
    1. blueblaze4444's Avatar
      blueblaze4444 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Truckerbear View Post
      Wow all I can say is wow. Its strange to me also they are charging for this but to think that the religion isn't about money making is crazy.
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyDiddler View Post
      Are you suggesting that the Catholic Church isn't interested in money? On what planet?
      Quote Originally Posted by Zokunei View Post
      You're right. But please explain why churches that are in debt aren't taking obvious measures to save/make money.


      Everybody DOES realize that any money the catholic church isn't using for rennovations etc. is going to hospitals and charities right?

      I can't give you exact numbers, but the Catholic church is one of the largest single organizations to fund as many hospitals, homes, programs for the homeless, etc. And they have thousands of missions and schools across the world. Even if some are funded privately.

      Just trying to prove A point about money here. Everything else has already pretty much been answered.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by blueblaze4444 View Post
      Everybody DOES realize that any money the catholic church isn't using for rennovations etc. is going to hospitals and charities right?

      I can't give you exact numbers, but the Catholic church is one of the largest single organizations to fund as many hospitals, homes, programs for the homeless, etc. And they have thousands of missions and schools across the world. Even if some are funded privately.

      Just trying to prove A point about money here. Everything else has already pretty much been answered.
      Thanks for the excellent point that I missed. I can't believe I didn't mention that!
    1. Jay316's Avatar
      Jay316 -
      Wow now the catholic church is trying to reach out to young boys through their iPhones. I wonder if there is a hidden GPS Tracker built in to the app, so the priests know where to go
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jay316 View Post
      Wow now the catholic church is trying to reach out to young boys through their iPhones. I wonder if there is a hidden GPS Tracker built in to the app, so the priests know where to go
      I bet the number of Catholic priests that are child molesters is just as low as any other denomination

      And it's not "The Catholic Church", it's one guy. Just like the sick child-molesting priests are just individuals.
    1. Effenpig!'s Avatar
      Effenpig! -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jay316 View Post
      Wow now the catholic church is trying to reach out to young boys through their iPhones. I wonder if there is a hidden GPS Tracker built in to the app, so the priests know where to go
      Lol x 10

      Everyone chill out. I just talked to the Easter bunny and he said he talked to Jesus and Jesus said this app is perfectly acceptable.
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jay316 View Post
      Wow now the catholic church is trying to reach out to young boys through their iPhones. I wonder if there is a hidden GPS Tracker built in to the app, so the priests know where to go
      Why would you even bring that up?? That's ridiculous and uncalled for!
    1. Broomhead's Avatar
      Broomhead -
      WOW! now that post was uncalled for ^^^^
    1. Effenpig!'s Avatar
      Effenpig! -
      Quote Originally Posted by Broomhead View Post
      WOW! now that post was uncalled for ^^^^
      Do you mean the post above yours or the post that used to be above yours