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  • Confusion About Confession App


    A Catholic bishop has approved Confession: A Roman Catholic App, to allow Catholic iPhone users examine their consciences before seeing a priest. Though there's a clear explanation in the app's download page, and Bishop Kevin Rhoades of the Diocese of Fort Wayne, Indiana in the USA explained that it cannot replace the actual Sacrament of Reconciliation, some news accounts suggested you could "confess by iPhone." The Vatican's press secretary released an official statement today confirming that "one cannot speak in any way of confessing via iPhone."

    The developer, Patrick Leinen of developer Little iApps, said that he wrote the app "to invite Catholics to engage in their faith through digital technology." He claims it has already helped one person come back to the church after 20 years away. It's designed to be used in the confessional, as an aid to people who were not raised in the Church's traditions or have forgotten them after a long absence. For example, it prompts the user for the correct response when the priest says "give thanks to the Lord for he is good," which is to say "For his mercy endures forever." The app also walks the user through questions about actions that are contrary to the teachings of the Church, organized using the Ten Commandments.

    Despite the fact that the app's iTunes page explains that "it does not and can not take the place of confessing before a validly ordained Roman Catholic priest in a Confessional, in person, either face to face, or behind the screen," there were some reports that the Bishop's imprimatur meant you could receive absolution using this app. When Federico Lombardi, director of the Holy See Press Office, said that the app is "by no means a substitute for the sacrament," this was also mixed up, with headlines like "Vatican bans Confession via iPhone." However, Father Lombardi clearly explained in his statement that "in a world in which many people use computer support for reading and reflection, digital technology can be useful in the preparation for confession."

    In addition to the many mistaken reports, there was also some inevitable snickering by some commentators about using the app's categorizing of sins as a "to-do list." You don't have to share the dev's beliefs, of course, but it doesn't hurt anybody to be a little respectful. This seems to be a well-intentioned effort to help Catholics connect with their tradition. Confession: A Roman Catholic App is $1.99 on the iOS App Store.

    Source: CNET
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Confusion About Confession App started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 220 Comments
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by thetoothfairy View Post
      And so are we sweetie!
      Hence my use of the word 'too' :P

      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      The Act of confessing the way Catholics do is a controversial topic as it is, so I can see why it sparked so much discussion, the problem with the app is its religious and tied to one religion its not universal, to me this was not an appropriate story to post on MMI ( per my opinion) since it's pertinent to a certain group and religious in nature, since I'm not Catholic I would never use this app.
      Yeah but it even got away from that topic at times.
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      WOW, this thread really blew up! I posted last night at 18:30 on pg.3 and now we're at pg.11. I bet a lot of garbage has been thrown around...
    1. Effenpig!'s Avatar
      Effenpig! -
      Hi, I'm new to this forum and I was wondering how I can jailbrakes my iPhone. I hope I posted this in the right place.

      Lol. Sorry, it was the only thing missing from this thread so I figured I'd fix it.
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by Effenpig! View Post
      Hi, I'm new to this forum and I was wondering how I can jailbrakes my iPhone. I hope I posted this in the right place.

      Lol. Sorry, it was the only thing missing from this thread so I figured I'd fix it.
      Awesome!
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Effenpig! View Post
      Hi, I'm new to this forum and I was wondering how I can jailbrakes my iPhone. I hope I posted this in the right place.

      Lol. Sorry, it was the only thing missing from this thread so I figured I'd fix it.
      Lol it's funny cause it true!
    1. creasy425's Avatar
      creasy425 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Effenpig! View Post
      Hi, I'm new to this forum and I was wondering how I can jailbrakes my iPhone. I hope I posted this in the right place.

      Lol. Sorry, it was the only thing missing from this thread so I figured I'd fix it.
      this really made me laugh. well done sir, well done.
    1. Captinsmooth's Avatar
      Captinsmooth -
      lol this thread had trouble written all over from the start. Really...next time put some forethought into your news stories if you want to censor the conversation that it invokes.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      I don't know what they were thinking when they wrote the WikiLeaks article either. I predicted that it would need to be closed, and it was.
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      So the Vatican denounced this app. I bet they secretly store a copy of the ipa in their underground vault.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChaos View Post
      So the Vatican denounced this app. I bet they secretly store a copy of the ipa in their underground vault.
      That doesn't even make any sense
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      No, they didn't ban it. They didn't embrace it. Seems they would though as it has good intentions.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Why do you have to criticize every single thing they do/don't do?
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      Watch the steps there Zok. This is the internet and that can bee taken the wrong way. Internet text == no way to tell emotion behind said text.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      So do I have to add "(not mad)" to most my posts now?
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zokunei View Post
      Why do you have to criticize every single thing they do/don't do?
      I don't. I was raised German Catholic through and through. For them not to reach out and embrace this app seems folly to me is all.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChaos View Post
      I don't. I was raised German Catholic through and through. For them not to reach out and embrace this app seems folly to me is all.
      That makes sense. I thought they did say something like "It would help more people to confess their sins" though.
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zokunei View Post
      So do I have to add "(not mad)" to most my posts now?
      I think I have to make myself a little clearer here:

      In an earlier post I said that Catholicism is a joke. I stand by that. And this is why...

      I do not believe you can be a true follower of god if you can simply walk in and confess to a priest for forgiveness and be absolved of your sins. Being one with god involves making things right in your heart knowing that there are consequences for straying...not banking on swinging by a church for your weekly washing. This app helps people to walk the walk. That is why it should be embraced. Don't be so quick to judge.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChaos View Post
      I think I have to make myself a little clearer here:

      In an earlier post I said that Catholicism is a joke. I stand by that. And this is why...

      I do not believe you can be a true follower of god if you can simply walk in and confess to a priest for forgiveness and be absolved of your sins. Being one with god involves making things right in your heart knowing that there are consequences for straying...not banking on swinging by a church for your weekly washing. This app helps people to walk the walk. That is why it should be embraced. Don't be so quick to judge.
      Sorry about that. But I don't really get where you're coming from. Catholicism never says that you can just be forgiven if you're not truly contrite. It just makes it even harder the way I see it. Otherwise those people that aren't sorry when they go to confession will just recite a prayer from a card on their fridge anyway. If you truly want to be forgiven you would be willing to take the extra step and confess. If you're still not truly sorry, of course you're not going to be forgiven. No one teaches that.
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      Confessing with true intentions, yes. Confessing as a backup plan, no. Unfortunatley with a lot of people it is the latter.
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChaos View Post
      Confessing with true intentions, yes. Confessing as a backup plan, no. Unfortunatley with a lot of people it is the latter.
      Unfortunately most don't confess at all. But I still see it as the people that confess as a backup plan aren't really sorry anyway, so what difference does it make? If they were a Protestant they'd just recite a prayer without really meaning it just like they do in the Confessional. (in no way does any of this mean that I think all Protestants aren't really sorry for their sins or can't be forgiven)