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  • Firmware 2.1 Announced - To be Released this Friday
    10:49AM "This is a big update, it fixes lots of bugs. Fewer dropped calls, big battery life improvements. No crashes with Apps. Backing up is faster." Nice.



    Couple more days to find out just how much they fixed (or broke) the firmware.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Firmware 2.1 Announced - To be Released this Friday started by Happy Noodle Boy View original post
    Comments 184 Comments
    1. oo3's Avatar
      oo3 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Eurisko View Post
      haha, what is it with you guys and MMS? It's a has been technology.
      I completely agree. Of all the years MMS has been out I've literally only used it about 4 or 5 times. Other times I receive stupid chain MMS's....so annoying.
    1. alias_neo's Avatar
      alias_neo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Eurisko View Post
      People with real phones (like the iPhone) use Email.

      That's an incredibly arrogant comment, and I'm surprised to see it coming from a moderator of this forum.

      For a start, sure, I like my iphone, but I wouldn't call it a real phone in a month of Sundays. It doesnt even come close to touching several phones released a year or more before. The only thing it does over most others is multi touch and a nice web browser.

      Other than that it lacks a hell of a lot of features considered standard by now in "real phones".

      I use e-mail sure, but without a data plan, which 99% of average phone users don't have, they can't send emails. Those incluned to send "MMS" generally aren't technologically inclined.

      My point is, I want to send a picture of something "interesting" or "fun" to my girlfriend, now, she has a phone, that i bought her, because it's practical, does everything she needs and it's fairly simple to use.

      Problem? I can't send her that picture, because I don't have MMS, can't send it to my dad, he doesn't use email on his N95, it receives MMS, on his N95 8GB, it receives MMS, on his iphone ... because the others receive MMS. My mum, she doesn't even use internet, or email, but she likes to receive MMS pictures etc.

      I'm in the field of Electronic Engineering& Computer Science, so of course i can fix things my end, but most of my family and friends happen not to be so technologically inclined to be setting up email addresses and data plans just to receive a picture on their phone that is perfectly capable of receiving MMS, just because my phone can't send them.

      If i want them to receive it in 6 hours when they get home from work and check their e-mail, sure, i'll sent it like that.

      But not to worry, if I want them to see it now, I carry around a REAL phone, so I pull my N95 out and MMS them with that. Problem solved.

      Sure I love having my emails on the go on my iphone, but lets face it, those who are most likely to want to send pictures of random things from their phone want to do it as simply as sending a text, and 99% of phone companies offer that right out of the box with no knowledge or effort from them required.
    1. pokekid's Avatar
      pokekid -
      NERD WARS!!!!
      MMS really isn't all that great to have. even with phones that had mms I rarely used the feature due to everyone that I know use email for evreything. Email is way better to use than mms and I don't think AT&T will be cool with the number of iPhones jogging bandwith because you want to mms a million people with silly pictures. and you talk about slow networks now
      also A2DP won't be on this iPhone. maybe next gen and if you are so upset with apple and their products then there are pleanty of other products that will fit your taste(s).there's no need to complain and argue with each other about what shouldve been included and what shouldn't. we all knew what was coming in the phone and still bought it. so go ahrad and try anothet phone you'll be back though
    1. Jay316's Avatar
      Jay316 -
      I'll be sticking with 2.0.2 for a while, I just got Spore
    1. gameviper's Avatar
      gameviper -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jay316 View Post
      I'll be sticking with 2.0.2 for a while, I just got Spore
      itll still b there when u upgrade
    1. plukk's Avatar
      plukk -
      you should not buy a product hoping that it is going to get upgraded. if you did not like the iphone in the first place why did you buy it? if you wanted mms buy a different phone. would you buy a car without a cd player hoping that they will upgrade it later? i would not, i got my iphone because i like it. if you dont then maybe you should not be so impulsive and get something "better" next time.
    1. gameviper's Avatar
      gameviper -
      and i for one would agree with everyone else on mms, i think it should be added in the phone if you use it or not, it wouldnt take up that much space, and as we have seen, swirly mms took up like 1mb. thats not that bad. im not for either party on this one, im just saying to solve everyones arguing, just add it, and for those that will use it, let them. for those that wont, then nothing will change... simply put. thats my idea but hey what do i know
    1. JazJon's Avatar
      JazJon -
      SwirlySpace.com • View topic - SwirlyMMS and firmware 2.x...
      (read through about how AT&T blocks MMS traffic, so lame)

      AT&T North America Send/Receive MMS support
      (send MMS option coming soon?)

      Also...
      It appears that biteSMS (currently installed from Cydia) has an upcoming new feature to "Render incoming MMS messages in the conversation bubbles" That might be good enough for me if it works.

      It also appears that biteSMS is even coming to the official appstore soon as well.

      biteSMS

      Upcoming New Features
      -biteSMS for the AppStore (iPhone and iPod Touch)...
      -Display and allow the actioning of embedded contact numbers, email addresses,
      -Browser URLs and Map coordinates within an SMS text.
      -Render incoming MMS messages in the conversation bubbles.

      Finally, dont forget you can send messages to [email protected] if you dont know someones provider. www.teleflip.com (site down today? hmm)
    1. iPhoneMadness's Avatar
      iPhoneMadness -
      This argument could go either way.

      I do, although, agree with alias_neo on the non-technology inclined.

      I talk to females (not generalizing) and they LOVE to text, send pictures in text, etc. I'd like to do it back in the same simple manner.

      Simple, fast, no hassle... unlike emailing.

      That's why I need MMS, for those that don't want to or simply CAN'T hassle with email/data plans/accounts/etc.

      Thank you Swirly for filling in that gap.

      F U Apple for not providing simple phone functionality. F Me for buying this phone. Thanks to the devs out there that make it actually worth the money I paid for it, without them, this thing would be useless.

    1. KeviN | NiveK's Avatar
      KeviN | NiveK -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shinner23 View Post
      MMS-currently, if someone SENDS you a text message, our iPhone doesn't see it?
      Yes
      our iPhone would not see it.
      Apple doesnt believe in it and i dont too.
      its a waste of time to send a MMS..
      iPhone users just have to get used to it
      but look
      uhh sooner or later
      an MMS application will be made sooner or later and then u can see it.
      but as of right now.
      nothing .. its not an urgent importance to Apple... but the Battery/Crash Apps/Burning Heat/Signal/Backup is of course to EVERYONE.

      =D

      i ma see how long it takes the Dev team to jailbreak it.
      i estimate it less than 48 hours of them recieving the Firmware.
    1. gameviper's Avatar
      gameviper -
      Quote Originally Posted by iPhoneMadness View Post
      This argument could go either way.

      I do,although, agree with alias_neo on the non-technology inclined.

      I talk to females (not generalizing) and they LOVE to text, send pictures in text, etc. I'd like to do it back in the same simple manner.

      Simple, fast, no hassle... unlike emailing.

      That's why I need MMS, for those that don't want to or simply CAN'T hassle with email/data plans/accounts/etc.

      Thank you Swirly for filling in that gap.

      F U Apple for not providing simple phone functionality. F Me for buying this phone. Thanks to the devs out there that make it actually worth the money I paid for it, without them, this thing would be useless.

      lol
    1. idolpunk's Avatar
      idolpunk -
      Quote Originally Posted by pokekid View Post
      NERD WARS!!!!
      MMS really isn't all that great to have. even with phones that had mms I rarely used the feature due to everyone that I know use email for evreything. Email is way better to use than mms and I don't think AT&T will be cool with the number of iPhones jogging bandwith because you want to mms a million people with silly pictures. and you talk about slow networks now
      also A2DP won't be on this iPhone. maybe next gen and if you are so upset with apple and their products then there are pleanty of other products that will fit your taste(s).there's no need to complain and argue with each other about what shouldve been included and what shouldn't. we all knew what was coming in the phone and still bought it. so go ahrad and try anothet phone you'll be back though
      How is email way better to use than mms??? When you send an email with a picture in it or an MMS it still goes through the same network hogging the same bandwidth.

      I don't understand why every apple fanboy just bends over and takes what ever apple feeds to them
    1. plukk's Avatar
      plukk -
      so you got an iphone hoping someone would hack it and make it work like you wanted it? after work i am going to buy a razr and yell at moto for not making it a touch screen
    1. corizzle's Avatar
      corizzle -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      Last time I checked it was a huge pain in the butt to call up every single of your contacts (sometimes HUNDREDS) and ask them who their mobile provider is. Then go back into this contact and add [email protected] (or whatever) as one of their emails and then expect them to figure out how to email a photo to you when they are well versed in MMS and usually don't want to bother learning an alternative method. SwirlyMMS works amazingly well on ALL my friends' T-Mobile phones (contrary to tattoojack's assessments) but cannot be used on the iPhone 3G due to IMEI complications. MMS is not a "dated" technology for the average mobile phone user either. I also think that if this "email method" were not such a big deal you wouldn't have hundreds of thousands (possibly millions by now) complaining about it all over the internet blogs.

      EXACTLY. sending MMS through email wouldn't be THAT bad if you didn't have to call and figure out which carrier the recipient has and THEN look up their carrier's email, and then hope that it works. and then they ask you, how do i send you a picture back? you tell them to send it to your email and they say, "i don't know how to do that!"
      it's just a big circle of FAIL.
      it would hurt ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to include a simple mms app on the phone. it would make people happy, and no one would be angry about it.
      for the people saying that it's unnecessary, that may be true in YOUR CASE, but seeing as how this phone is supposed to appeal to the masses, shouldn't it include something that the majority of phones on the market currently support?


      Quote Originally Posted by tattoojack View Post
      besides, apple knows only the iphone can do email pics. did you really think they wanted the iphone to "co-exist" with other phones? NO, they want the iphone to render all other phones obsolete. forcing the world to buy in to their product. Duh!
      that couldn't be further from the truth. my t-mobile sidekick could send pictures in my emails, and it has been that way since the line of sidekicks were released in the early 2000's. it's also had push email since the beginning as well. if danger (the sidekick OS creator) could implement push email and mms since the beginning of the 2000's, why can't a GIANT company like apple do it in two years?


      the way they've handled this phone makes me smh.
      i love my iphone, i just have my gripes, just like everyone else.
    1. unlockme's Avatar
      unlockme -
      my best friend had a baby yesterday and I went to visit at the hospital. Took a couple of pics of the baby and emailed it away to some friends. It was great and my first time sending pics from my phone as I just set up my hotmail thru izymail. Email was better than mms in this instance since it's better to view the pics on computer rather than a tiny little flip phone.
    1. corizzle's Avatar
      corizzle -
      Quote Originally Posted by JazJon View Post
      SwirlySpace.com • View topic - SwirlyMMS and firmware 2.x...
      (read through about how AT&T blocks MMS traffic, so lame)

      AT&T North America Send/Receive MMS support
      (send MMS option coming soon?)

      Also...
      It appears that biteSMS (currently installed from Cydia) has an upcoming new feature to "Render incoming MMS messages in the conversation bubbles" That might be good enough for me if it works.

      It also appears that biteSMS is even coming to the official appstore soon as well.

      biteSMS

      Upcoming New Features
      -biteSMS for the AppStore (iPhone and iPod Touch)...
      -Display and allow the actioning of embedded contact numbers, email addresses,
      -Browser URLs and Map coordinates within an SMS text.
      -Render incoming MMS messages in the conversation bubbles.

      Finally, dont forget you can send messages to [email protected] if you dont know someones provider. www.teleflip.com (site down today? hmm)
      you have to pay for credits to use biteSMS.

      & teleflip's website has been down for over a month, and has never worked for me.

      Quote Originally Posted by unlockme View Post
      my best friend had a baby yesterday and I went to visit at the hospital. Took a couple of pics of the baby and emailed it away to some friends. It was great and my first time sending pics from my phone as I just set up my hotmail thru izymail. Email was better than mms in this instance since it's better to view the pics on computer rather than a tiny little flip phone.
      you can send a picture through mms to an email address the same way you can send a picture through email to an email address.
    1. gameviper's Avatar
      gameviper -
      Quote Originally Posted by corizzle View Post
      EXACTLY. sending MMS through email wouldn't be THAT bad if you didn't have to call and figure out which carrier the recipient has and THEN look up their carrier's email, and then hope that it works. and then they ask you, how do i send you a picture back? you tell them to send it to your email and they say, "i don't know how to do that!"
      it's just a big circle of FAIL.
      it would hurt ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to include a simple mms app on the phone. it would make people happy, and no one would be angry about it.
      for the people saying that it's unnecessary, that may be true in YOUR CASE, but seeing as how this phone is supposed to appeal to the masses, shouldn't it include something that the majority of phones on the market currently support?




      that couldn't be further from the truth. my t-mobile sidekick could send pictures in my emails, and it has been that way since the line of sidekicks were released in the early 2000's. it's also had push email since the beginning as well. if danger (the sidekick OS creator) could implement push email and mms since the beginning of the 2000's, why can't a GIANT company like apple do it in two years?


      the way they've handled this phone makes me smh.
      i love my iphone, i just have my gripes, just like everyone else.
      well said
    1. Myque's Avatar
      Myque -
      txtmsj lag laaaaag laaaaag, no more on 2.1? thats the only thing i reaaly want.

      (well i want the battery save too :P tired of charging my phone every day)

      (I wonder if battery save will work on 1g itouch too :S)
    1. oscar25's Avatar
      oscar25 -
      Can we move the mms discussion somewhere else? Or is it really related to this topic?
    1. corizzle's Avatar
      corizzle -
      Quote Originally Posted by oscar25 View Post
      Can we move the mms discussion somewhere else? Or is it really related to this topic?
      i believe so. we're discussing the new firmware, and it's support (or lack thereof) of MMS.