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  • Firmware 2.1 Announced - To be Released this Friday
    10:49AM "This is a big update, it fixes lots of bugs. Fewer dropped calls, big battery life improvements. No crashes with Apps. Backing up is faster." Nice.



    Couple more days to find out just how much they fixed (or broke) the firmware.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Firmware 2.1 Announced - To be Released this Friday started by Happy Noodle Boy View original post
    Comments 184 Comments
    1. jm12345's Avatar
      jm12345 -
      Quote Originally Posted by tattoojack View Post
      mms has only been out like 15 years!!!! and email has still been around longer! so figure that out. apple isnt pushing us to a new system, it is using a perfectly available and more widespread system. alot of phones still dont have mms. and besides, half the time the mms doesnt go thru, especially when the two phones are different (sending from a razr to a nokia) alot of times you get picture size restrictions or other format issues. none of that with email.

      besides, apple knows only the iphone can do email pics. did you really think they wanted the iphone to "co-exist" with other phones? NO, they want the iphone to render all other phones obsolete. forcing the world to buy in to their product. Duh!

      on top of the fact that anyone who knows anything about the iphone, knows that it is NOT a cellphone!
      it is a mac laptop mini that can make cell phone calls among MANY other things. find a phone that can do half of the things an iphone can do, then we can start the pissing contest. until then, love it or sell it!

      Haha easy there before you blow a vessel. It was a simple calm conversation, keyword calm.
    1. marys25's Avatar
      marys25 -
      I need MMS cause i do have family & friends that are on those "unlimited plan carriers" in were i have tried to email them pics using the carries Mobile email numbers and they don't receive them... and its a hassle having to tell your friends to email you the pic cause you don't get MMS
    1. jason0785's Avatar
      jason0785 -
      What I want to see 1st off is A2DP support ... this is old technology cant believe they missed it on the 2g and then FAILED to put it on the 3G .... also copy and paste ... if they would just add copy and paste it would help with the lack of MMS. I can take not being able to send pics but it drives me insane getting pic mail and having to remember that dumb username and password .... copy and paste would be a dream considering i dont usually cary around a pen and paper
    1. Eurisko's Avatar
      Eurisko -
      Quote Originally Posted by cockyjeremy View Post
      Which is why the amount of MMS usage grew during the first year of the iPhone, right? Nice thinking.
      Not with my company it didn't. Do you happen to have a link for those stats or are you talking out your arse?
    1. Macboy67's Avatar
      Macboy67 -
      I don't see much of a difference myself but there are a few new features added and Mobile safari works fine.
    1. asta-roth's Avatar
      asta-roth -
      Quote Originally Posted by Eurisko View Post
      Sometimes people just have to be dragged into the future. Apple was also the first company to drop floppy drives from computers, do you see floppy drives anymore? Nope. Do you care? Nope.
      First of all there are still floppy drives around, even though not many people use them anymore. Second of all comparing MMS to floppies doesn't really makes sense, as the percentage of phones that can receive/sent e-mails to the ones that can send MMS is still really low. It's not like MMS service is on decline or something. And lastly I have no idea if this service is popular in US, but in Europe it's quite commonly used, and this time iPhone wasn't released only for US market.

      I live in Poland and using cellular network is still quite expensive so basically I can browse the internet or send e-mails and stuff from home via wifi or at hotspots, or at someone else's house. And as someone mentioned it before, MMS wouldn't hurt anyone and in fact together with some other features that at the moment iPhone lacks, it would only increase their sales.
    1. TheMaciejWay's Avatar
      TheMaciejWay -
      I was thinking... they are pushing this "Genius" feature so hard, but didn't mention it with the iPhone? Also, what about "shake to shuffle"? It had the accelorameter (sp) first, shouldn't it be able to do it too?

      My guess, and hope, is that these features, as well as several other significant features will be included in the 2.1 update! ....one can dream..... cross your fingers....
    1. Shinner23's Avatar
      Shinner23 -
      I'm not sure why it is so Email Vs. MMS. There are people that use/prefer one over the other. Not a big deal.
    1. Poseidon79's Avatar
      Poseidon79 -
      Last time I checked it was a huge pain in the butt to call up every single of your contacts (sometimes HUNDREDS) and ask them who their mobile provider is. Then go back into this contact and add [email protected] (or whatever) as one of their emails and then expect them to figure out how to email a photo to you when they are well versed in MMS and usually don't want to bother learning an alternative method. SwirlyMMS works amazingly well on ALL my friends' T-Mobile phones (contrary to tattoojack's assessments) but cannot be used on the iPhone 3G due to IMEI complications. MMS is not a "dated" technology for the average mobile phone user either. I also think that if this "email method" were not such a big deal you wouldn't have hundreds of thousands (possibly millions by now) complaining about it all over the internet blogs.
    1. tattoojack's Avatar
      tattoojack -
      Quote Originally Posted by jm12345 View Post
      Haha easy there before you blow a vessel. It was a simple calm conversation, keyword calm.
      YES SIR!
      who are you to tell me what to do?
      i was calm, just stating facts.

      and besides, why are you posting?
      just to boss people around or to add to the information in this post?


      and poseidon,

      i was merely stating the fact that you pointed out. IT DOESNT WORK ON THE 3G
      so that in itself DOES qualify as "only works partially"
    1. aayman_farzand's Avatar
      aayman_farzand -
      Doesnt anyone here use hotmail? The mail app doesnt support hotmail I think, and I need it badly. Screw MMS, I think I sent maybe 3-4 mms' in my life, and all those were just to make sure it was going through my htc touch.

      Besides that, what's Apple's excuse for not allowing bluetooth file transfers? old technology?? and this is a pda like device, thus copy & paste function is mandatory.
    1. bluemax189's Avatar
      bluemax189 -
      hotmail is a joke now-a-days. no free POP3 support. I was hoping for some A2DP, but maybe they will just sneak that in on the update and not announce it officially
    1. cockyjeremy's Avatar
      cockyjeremy -
      Quote Originally Posted by tattoojack View Post

      besides, apple knows only the iphone can do email pics. did you really think they wanted the iphone to "co-exist" with other phones? NO, they want the iphone to render all other phones obsolete. forcing the world to buy in to their product. Duh!
      They're rendering their own product useless, not others. Guess what.. most people use phones other than iPhones. Phone's that DO have MMS.
    1. dominic56's Avatar
      dominic56 -
      Use izymail.com to use your hotmail account on your iphone. Works just as well as my me.com account on the iphone... Follow the setup instructions.
    1. picassolsus's Avatar
      picassolsus -
      Quote Originally Posted by Macboy67 View Post
      I don't see much of a difference myself but there are a few new features added and Mobile safari works fine.
      Are you talking about fw 2.1? If so, what new features specifically? You using a leaked final or beta 2.1?
    1. gameviper's Avatar
      gameviper -
      Quote Originally Posted by picassolsus View Post
      Are you talking about fw 2.1? If so, what new features specifically? You using a leaked final or beta 2.1?
      he's talking about the ipod touch firmware. it was released today
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon79 View Post
      Last time I checked it was a huge pain in the butt to call up every single of your contacts (sometimes HUNDREDS) and ask them who their mobile provider is. Then go back into this contact and add [email protected] (or whatever) as one of their emails and then expect them to figure out how to email a photo to you when they are well versed in MMS and usually don't want to bother learning an alternative method. SwirlyMMS works amazingly well on ALL my friends' T-Mobile phones (contrary to tattoojack's assessments) but cannot be used on the iPhone 3G due to IMEI complications. MMS is not a "dated" technology for the average mobile phone user either. I also think that if this "email method" were not such a big deal you wouldn't have hundreds of thousands (possibly millions by now) complaining about it all over the internet blogs.
      I agree, here in UK about 95%+ more phones have MMS on them and it actaully works, it's ok receiving pictures as there's an O2 MMS webapp but sending that's an issue. MMS isn't dead if anything it's going to get better as not everyones going to have an iPhone or any other smartphone due to many features not in it so Email becomes annoying to use when sending MMS's.

      Soo sorry but I have to ask this, how the hell have you got your font orange?? lol, I want a colour aswell
    1. gameviper's Avatar
      gameviper -
      Quote Originally Posted by A.T View Post
      I agree, here in UK about 95%+ more phones have MMS on them and it actaully works, it's ok receiving pictures as there's an O2 MMS webapp but sending that's an issue. MMS isn't dead if anything it's going to get better as not everyones going to have an iPhone or any other smartphone due to many features not in it so Email becomes annoying to use when sending MMS's.

      Soo sorry but I have to ask this, how the hell have you got your font orange?? lol, I want a colour aswell
      click the A and change color in the type box thing
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Quote Originally Posted by cockyjeremy View Post
      They're rendering their own product useless, not others. Guess what.. most people use phones other than iPhones. Phone's that DO have MMS.
      Exactly, it's the most hyped iPhone ever but still not selling as much as their competitors due to lack of MMS, video recording, bluetooth file sending and receiving and the fact Apple need to upgrade the camera at least to 5MP with flash if they want to compete in the mobile market.
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by A.T View Post
      Exactly, it's the most hyped iPhone ever but still not selling as much as their competitors due to lack of MMS, video recording, bluetooth file sending and receiving and the fact Apple need to upgrade the camera at least to 5MP with flash if they want to compete in the mobile market.
      iPhones are selling like hot cakes, do you have any numbers to compare against other SmartPhones?