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    In an article running in todays Wall Street JournalWSJ says the article is on page B1 if you wanna follow along with that paper copy of yours, but if you're reading it online why would you want to know the page number, you crazy crazy paper publication you – Steve Jobs sat down with Nick Wingfield to chat about the AppStore. Its been a huge success, averaging $1 million in sales daily. For the past month, that's over $20 million paid out to developers (well, when the checks start rolling out), and a cool $9 million for Apple in 30 days. That's $694.44 a minute, and WSJ notes that by Stevey's calculations this could easily become a $360 million revenue per year business for Apple.

    This thing's going to crest a half a billion, soon. Who knows, maybe it will be a $1 billion marketplace at some point in time. I've never seen anything like this in my career for software.


    The backdoor kill switch rumored about, designed to killall any malicious app from the comfort of Steve's desk in Cupertino, which was discovered by iPhone hacker extraordinaire Jonathan Zdziarski just a few days ago, has been confirmed by Jobs himself,

    Jobs confirmed such a capability exists, but argued that Apple needs it in case it inadvertently allows a malicious program -- one that stole users' personal data, for example -- to be distributed to iPhones through the App Store. "Hopefully we never have to pull that lever, but we would be irresponsible not to have a lever like that to pull."
    Personally, I would like to think that Apple would never allow, inadvertently or otherwise, an app of this kind into the store – kind of gets in the way of the possibility/marketing ploy/truth that Apple's products are safer than their counterparts especially when Apple hand selects the application. I don't see anything wrong with Apple building the "lever" – for all we know it was part of an agreement with the telecoms they have for partners. Remember the justification for webapps? Steve didn't want to have an app take down Cingular/AT&T's wireless network, and we all know AT&T has no problem developing and using technology to spy on people without their knowledge, so this really comes as no surprise regardless of how you look at it.

    Prefecace to the next paragraph: MMi does not support warez the contact was made to investigate the reach of the backdoor only.

    I checked in with one of the iPhone app cracking websites and none of the apps they've installed have hit the list, possibly because there may not be a way of differentiating between legit apps and warez. I bring this up only in hopes to illustrate that Apple, at the moment, isn't actively using the list at all, for any purpose other than a safety net.

    The Wall Street Journal (have to pay for it so no direct link) via Google News (link to article)
    This article was originally published in forum thread: 60 million downloads, $30 million, 30 days - AppStore ain't too shabby. started by ajustcircle View original post
    Comments 45 Comments
    1. sr852's Avatar
      sr852 -
      It is interesting watching the apps that they are putting up there. I for one am waiting to see Dreamcatchers' video recorder app. Dreamcatcher said they submitted the app. What is taking so long for an app that is so desired to make it's way to the app store while some other apps that don't seem to be as sought after are showing up so quickly???????
    1. minhwan's Avatar
      minhwan -
      only one thing i don't like is Apple don't allow oversea purchase... even on software world!
      I'm in Australia and using credit card issued in South Korea. So I'm locked into South Korea App store. VISA logo on my credit card is so meaningless on App store... Even there are only limited amount of applications available so honestly there is nothing to purchase... I checked with my friend who uses Australian App store. There are also less applications compare to US App store. Why would they do this ? I know some applications are developed for particular regions only, but let's talk about games... I wanted to buy Monkey Ball... not available... Solitare... not available...
      WTF ... even many of those good free apps are stilll not available.

      Apple made me hackin' ... it's their fault LOL

      @SERBIAN

      "Also, since Im not interested in customization nor emulators on my iPhone, I dont miss those kind of apps at all..."

      yeah.. because you're not interested .. this is MODmyifone.com
      you're totally disregarding other people who want to mod their iPhone.
      it seems you're a strong supporter of App store ..that's fine.. but you shouldn't say "those cannot be compared with AppStore" if you're standing on developers (in effort wise) side and considering their effort to build whole community It's not about money, it's about passion. And I think those free developers update more frequently than App store do. App store surely maintain THE STORE very well in terms of promotion but not users point of view. They don't even provide trial or detailed information on apps... let say you buy something worth $20 with few screenshots and paragraphs of description, it's ridiculous... really.
    1. Muggz5's Avatar
      Muggz5 -
      There are valid points on both sides of the fence here. I agree mostly with what Apple is doing in the App. Store. To all of the Cydia and Installer "Purists aka mooches" although Cydia and Installer are just awesome, all of the developers that create apps, games, etc etc surely would much rather gain some income from their extremely hard work, late nights. I think we are at an advantage to be able to get these rare, new apps. ahead of time and free through our installers, but overall the files available in App. Store are clean, bug free, monitored and maintained by the folks at Apple. I could go on and on but I think Im just restating whats already been said. I would also venture to say most who are against app. store also probably dont donate to the developers that offer all free apps, cracks and abilities to do what we do on these phones. And for god's sake what is so wrong with Apple making a profit? they are in business and this is what you do in business. Way To Go Apple.

      Why create a division between "Modded iPhones" and "Factory iPhones"? Is it just something to feel more elite about? I use all 3 installers. Cydia, Installer, and App. Store. There are some really cool apps in the store and have mostly been worth what ive spent.

      What the Cydia and Installer have enabled is the lower income demographic (college students, blue collar etc etc) have loads of fun with their phones. Nothing wrong with that at all but to try and justify that Apple is a big bad monster because of what they choose to do in business is wrong.
      And its also enabled loads of hobby developers get it out of a hobby and more into a career. I love what these installers do for the iphone community, so what if apple snuck in there with too? Youre still elite because you own iphones just embrace all of it and quit whining!
    1. minhwan's Avatar
      minhwan -
      I got no **** with Apple and developers making money ... I just want to say these

      1. Apple to do the job more properly
      2. Do not disregard others life and thought
      3. Do not mess with underground community
    1. Iman07's Avatar
      Iman07 -
      Wow, $30 million in one short month? Unremarkable! Go Apple! But I agree with minhwan, leave the underground community alone.

      @ajustcircle

      I just wanted to say that was a great article. Its refreshing to read an article that is completely thought out and has full sentences lol. Anyway, keep up the good work. MMi definitely needs help presenting the news in a professional, yet laid back, manner.
    1. piqch's Avatar
      piqch -
      I agree that app store is great, but so is Cydia/Installer.
      You HAVE to have competition, no matter what it is.
      No single provider will have all the services and options you want.
    1. keatonreckard's Avatar
      keatonreckard -
      @ ajustcircle
      I believe what you were referring to in post 11 was konfabulator, which was bought by yahoo and since renamed "yahoo widgets"
    1. SERBIAN's Avatar
      SERBIAN -
      Well I think that some of you guys missed my point completely...Im not advocating for AppStore against Installer/Cydia, and as I said Im using Installer/Cydia too and I will continue to use those for sure...I was just surprised to see so many negative comments about AppStore and tried to "defend" the other point of view...Im NOT disregarding people who likes to mod their iPhone's at all also...Dont know how some of you concluded that...Also this is NOT "underground community" of any kind..This is the free, open forum which does NOT support any illegal activities...Some youngsters here should note that real, old school, underground community would NEVER bother to hack an app which costs 1-10$ and to cut small time devs legs in order to become "famous" in "community"...
    1. r1994augusto's Avatar
      r1994augusto -
      so makin' money steves
      RING DA DINDANG
      THAT A LOT

      Quote Originally Posted by laz305 View Post
      WoW it never seems to amaze me too see how many rich moron slaves are out there.
      lol
    1. jayson9's Avatar
      jayson9 -
      Keep it free - as in Freedom Fries!
    1. danieldeniro's Avatar
      danieldeniro -
      i have to say this i'm really sick of hearing how great the appstore is. i mean it's cool. however the sidekick has had something like this from the beginning. this isn't something new. it's just a way for apple to make more money. just like the ruby thing i just watched on the news, that was a 1,000 dollars. what the h***. come on now. steve is capitalizing on impulse purchases. everyone does it, you see something and say to yourself oh it's only 1.00 but those one dollars add up to maybe 30 dollars in a month or maybe more. which isn't going to break you but imagine 2million others thinking the same way.
    1. elr0y7's Avatar
      elr0y7 -
      $360 million a year? Pssh, yeah, if they keep rolling out the good apps as they did upon release (which I highly doubt will happen).
    1. Muggz5's Avatar
      Muggz5 -
      Quote Originally Posted by danieldeniro View Post
      i have to say this i'm really sick of hearing how great the appstore is. i mean it's cool. however the sidekick has had something like this from the beginning. this isn't something new. it's just a way for apple to make more money. just like the ruby thing i just watched on the news, that was a 1,000 dollars. what the h***. come on now. steve is capitalizing on impulse purchases. everyone does it, you see something and say to yourself oh it's only 1.00 but those one dollars add up to maybe 30 dollars in a month or maybe more. which isn't going to break you but imagine 2million others thinking the same way.

      Its business. You open a company to make money. If you have a product that the public likes and is willing to pay for what is the issue? The App. store is great, because it gives us a way to get more apps on our phone not available anywhere else. Why should it be free? Whats the difference from buying games for consoles, buying operating systems for computers, or software for them as well? Yeah imagine 2,000,000 units sold thats called revenue and profit. Im still waiting for a valid arguement other than " Apple is making too much money" its just absurd. And if watching the news is your source for an opinion, I think you are better off doing some independant research. News is entertainment with a truth twist.
    1. imode's Avatar
      imode -
      Quote Originally Posted by danieldeniro View Post
      ...steve is capitalizing on impulse purchases. everyone does it, you see something and say to yourself oh it's only 1.00 but those one dollars add up to maybe 30 dollars in a month or maybe more. which isn't going to break you but imagine 2million others thinking the same way.
      Hmm... I call BS. The developers set the price for the apps they submit to the appstore not Apple. Also, impulse purchases occur in every retail setting. Why do you think they load up supermarket checkout counters with cheap magazines and candy?
    1. LargeSoda's Avatar
      LargeSoda -
      Page numbers are needed for academic/research citations. That's one big reason the page number is included with the online version.

      As far as the app store goes, as I said on another thread, I've only purchased one app (Veiosoft's Datacase) and it seems like an awesome solution for file serving functionality Apple rather inexplicably left out.
    1. mbaharvard's Avatar
      mbaharvard -
      Quote Originally Posted by Muggz5 View Post
      What the Cydia and Installer have enabled is the lower income demographic (college students, blue collar etc etc) have loads of fun with their phones.Youre still elite because you own iphones just embrace all of it and quit whining!
      Are you serious? I am a professional engineer and I much prefer Cydia over the app store! And what is wrong with being "blue-collar"? What are you - an elitist snob that looks down on those without the cash resources you must have in order to make such a statement? I have purchased Kate, Intelliscreen, the premium Customize option, Video Recoreder (which I hope comes out again soon) and many others. The App Store does not deliver in the same way. Crawl back into your Mercedes with a black iPhone background and I'll get back in my BMW and enjoy the iPhone!
    1. Muggz5's Avatar
      Muggz5 -
      I think you are a bit over anxious to jump the gun with your statement. First of all it was not intended to be condescending in any way. All I was referring to was the fact that the high price of a cell phone, along with service plan, accessories and applications desired for this phone, third party installers and apps are great for someone that doesnt have a lot of extra spending money to dump in the phone. That is one purpose of unlocking and jailbreaking these phones yes? Otherwise why would you need to develop cracks for apps. that cost money? Second, I wouldnt have bought any of these phones if it werent for the fact of absolute customization on this phone and ability to use on TMobile. If I were such a ***** why would I care about helping folks on this website get these phones customized. I hope you understand what I actually meant, and for you to label me an elitest snob or pretentious is more self-projecting isnt it? Who said anything about cars, or what I do for a living? MBAHarvard. Now thats not elitist is it? Dont be a douche looking for a way to self promote your own "stature" But thats ok just pick out bits and forget about reading further.

      But you were right about my backround.
    1. danieldeniro's Avatar
      danieldeniro -
      first did any of you that commented on what i wrote read and understand what i wrote. i could care less how much money apple and the developers are making. i said i was sick of hearing about it. it's not all that to me and that's my opinion. and you tell me news is only for entertainment. so when we watch the weather man he's entertaining us, checking for baseball scores is entertaining us and like I said apple had an app called
      I AM RICH!!! which i seen on the NEWS!!! for a 1,000 dollars that didn't do anything but say i am rich and that was supposed to mean you had money to burn on that app. i guess if you would have watched the news you would have seen it. haha. don't get me wrong get your money anyway you want but i really don't have to care who and how you do it.
    1. one1's Avatar
      one1 -
      App store = 60 mil DL's / 30 days

      Hacked torrents = 60 mil DL's / 30 minutes
    1. cranie's Avatar
      cranie -
      Quote Originally Posted by ajustcircle View Post

      The backdoor kill switch rumored about, designed to killall any malicious app from the comfort of Steve's desk in Cupertino, which was discovered by iPhone hacker extraordinaire Jonathan Zdziarski just a few days ago, has been confirmed by Jobs himself,
      Zdziarski also posted a method for blocking Apple’s kill-switch, which requires jailbreaking an iPhone or iPod touch, then adding the following entry into /etc/hosts:

      127.0.0.1 iphone-services.apple.com