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  • AT&T Crippled SlingPlayer To Kill Competition?


    We already know that AT&T prevented Apple from approving SlingPlayer before and was the main culprit in restricting it to Wi-Fi ONLY. Their recent statement proclaims the restrictions to be a modest way to prevent the network from collapsing. Well, most people trust them because of obvious reasons, but it seems to be the incomplete truth!

    As per a tipster, AT&T's been working on it's OWN application named "i-verse" that performs similar task as SlingPlayer.

    This app works with their U-verse TV solution (like slingbox) and loads the "DVRed" shows onto your iPhone at home or stream them over internet on 3G network! The app has already been demoed privately last year and since then, AT&T's into developing it.

    Currently SlingPlayer is the #9 app on the US AppStore even though it is Wi-Fi only, imagine what wonders would a 3G version do! Of course there are alternatives for people with a jailbroken iPhone but what about those unwilling to do it? If true, this is a cheap move by AT&T which is abusing its power and should be restricted. Hope Apple hears us next time, instead of AT&T..

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: AT&T Crippled SlingPlayer To Kill Competition? started by sayam View original post
    Comments 54 Comments
    1. Bears_Fan's Avatar
      Bears_Fan -
      I was seriously considering buying a slingbox yesterday just to have live TV on my phone, and now that I know apple has something up it's sleeve I may just wait. Sucky thing is my residential area doesn't offer U-Verse. My sister lives 6 blocks away and she gets it. Not fair!!! I wonder if she'll let me watch her TV on my phone.
    1. reeko's Avatar
      reeko -
      Confucious - my argument to that whole stance is that every one of us pays an absolutely rediculous amount of money for text messages / voice calls / data usage.

      If anyone reads this and thinks, "well i don't pay over the top i get 7 million billion free text messages with my tariff" - your wrong. The carrier is still pulling your pants down.

      Their T&C state that streaming is prohibited and yes, this is because the network could not handle it. BUT, for the amount of money I, and everyone ese, has been paying for their tariffs since day one each carriers network should be far far far superior than it is right now. There should be extremely better coverage and a far better 3G network.

      Instead the big wigs have just got themselves an extra couple 0's in the bank.

      Carriers have had it good for far too long. This type of pressure is whats needed to move forward and offer the consumer a reasonable service at a reasonable price. I feel no way bound by their T+C's and feel absolutely no guilt streaming anything over the 3G network.
    1. JazJon's Avatar
      JazJon -
      WTF, that's messed up. Why the hell was Orb officially blessed by Apple then for 3G use? It streams live tv too. Talk about a double standard. If it wasn't for jailbreak, I would not be such a happy loyal iPhone fan. I'd probably try the google phone, palm pre, or new windows mobile device once v 7 is out. For now, as long as I can jail break, iphone remains supreme but this news still annoys and frustrates the hell out of me.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      reeko, I found one of my bills from a few years ago when i moved house the other day, it was well over double what I'm paying now for a lot less, believe it or not prices are coming down. That doesn't mean they can't come down further and we shouldn't put pressure on though.
      With regard to O's T&C it is entirely up to you, I just point out what they say and would also point out that streaming does have a very easily identified usage pattern.
      IF they find out you are streaming then they *could* either cancel your service and make you pay or just charge you for the data used (which could be very expensive).
      I am just pointing out the facts (as I see them), what you do is up to you but I would hate for someone to get a massive bill and say 'no one told me this could happen'.
      Good luck.
    1. JazJon's Avatar
      JazJon -
      I can't even get U-Vers in San Francisco
      https://uverse1.att.com/un/launchAMS...ceabilityCheck
      My only option is SlingBox! Way to go jack-*** AT&T

      EDIT: Why are swear words censored when we all know what the word really is anyway?
    1. lightning04's Avatar
      lightning04 -
      Yea go firgure you can stream on blackberry bold 3g with slingplayer, and not the iphone, it's a scam.
    1. reeko's Avatar
      reeko -
      confucious, im growing to like you. Those years ago when we were paying twice as much for allot less are the times when the networks should have beefed up for the future, preparing for these times, instead of pocketing the cash. Back in the day we used to get our pants pulled down and bummed by the carriers, now we just get our pants pulled down.

      When i moved to the simplicity tariff before the release of the 3G i asked about the 'unlimited internet' (which is far from 'unlimited') and the O2 CSR said that they will give you 1 warning before cutting you off altogether. If i ever get that warning ill stop.
    1. Lil_Desai's Avatar
      Lil_Desai -
      Att sucks they won't let me get an iphone bastards here in Brasil it's 2000 bucks plus contract! WTF APPLE LET ME BUY MY IPHONE AND LET US JAILBREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      I'm glad I didn't p!ss you off too much. I only ever give my opinion and am just here to learn.

      A good place to start is the ASA who allow people to claim something is 'unlimited' when it clearly is not. One of the reasons I am with T-Mob (apart from their very fast speeds) is the fact that their T&C are far clearer than anyone else's and they have upped their limits and adapted their plans based on actual usage. They give you clear options and, if you want extras such as streaming or VOIP, you can have them - at a cost.
      Most (all?) other UK networks just have one data tariff which limits what you can do so if you want to use your slingplayer over 3G you have no choice but to break their T&C.
      I object to people streaming on T's basic package because t have an option where you can do it legally and I think their investment in their network justifies their prices.
      The other networks need to catch up and offer some real competition - then, I think, prices will fall again.
      In the mean time the ASA really need a lesson in what 'Unlimited' means!

      Quote Originally Posted by Lil_Desai View Post
      Att sucks they won't let me get an iphone bastards here in Brasil it's 2000 bucks plus contract! WTF APPLE LET ME BUY MY IPHONE AND LET US JAILBREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Why do ATT&T suck? they are not in Brazil are they? Do Apple have a partner carrier in Brazil?
    1. Fallguy's Avatar
      Fallguy -
      Like ronfin44 said, all you need to do is have a jailbroken iPhone/iPod Touch and install VoIPover3G or Tricker ThreeG from Cydia and you can use it via 3G or Edge.
      Never tried this ,how does this work ? I have that damn Slingplayer app and it doesnt work once I go out of network . That blows .
    1. Kyle Matthews's Avatar
      Kyle Matthews -
      Out of WiFi network you mean? With TrickerThreeG, Sling works over 3G.
    1. dancrazy's Avatar
      dancrazy -
      ok network can so handle it AT&T has upt there network for the new iphone so the network can ****** handle it at&t is just being wimps oh the network will fall and we will loss all of ower customers well thats what u said when verison started to talk to apple about the iphone
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      You really have very little idea of what you are talking about, do you?
    1. dancrazy's Avatar
      dancrazy -
      AT&T should just leave the network crap alone and let the iphone have the full network capability
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      So you can stream and therefore block the network so no one else can use it?
    1. dancrazy's Avatar
      dancrazy -
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      So you can stream and therefore block the network so no one else can use it?
      ok i do see what u mean but AT&T has up dated its network from 3bits to 7bits o l thnk thats enogh for the iphone
    1. dancrazy's Avatar
      dancrazy -
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      So you can stream and therefore block the network so no one else can use it?
      ok i do see what u mean but AT&T has up dated its network from 3bits to 7bits o l thnk thats enogh for the iphone
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Like I say, you have very little idea hoe data is transmitted. you can get many people using the same line for voice and even for data but streaming takes the whole line all the time. It uses much more than just browsing the net and blocks a line that would normally be used by many people.
    1. CaptainChaos's Avatar
      CaptainChaos -
      I could care less about streaming TV to my phone. It's AT&T's network and they are gonna do what they want. The only way this sort of thing is going to change is when the iPhone is available on other carriers. Until then you gotta love to hate them. You won't see these restrictions on the 4G network.
    1. ronfin44's Avatar
      ronfin44 -
      I love streaming my Sling over 3G, and haven't run into many problems at all. I was at the circus yesterday with my daughter and was watching the Phillies game, and had about 20 people come over and ask me how the hell I was watching LIVE TV inside the Spectrum. I said get a Slingbox, jailbreak your phone, and Google "modmyi.com". It's nice to be in the small majority of people that love to hack and mod their phones and PC's etc. I almost miss my days at xda-dev cooking ROMS for my 8525 and Tilt. Never like to settle for what everyone else has, and it's great when you walk into AT&T and the person behind the counter tells you your phone "can't" do something, then you take it out and show them it can, and they stare like a deer caught in headlights.