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  • Google Can't Bear the Pressure, Shuts Down Free SMS Service for App Devs!


    Innerfence recently launched an app named Infinite SMS which allowed you to send unlimited SMS for free. The service used a free service from Google currently in "Experimental" stages - according to Google. The app soon reached the Top 10 list on AppStore and that's where the trouble started.

    According to Google, they had to cut them off because of the app's HUGE popularity; stating they were unable to cope with the expenses. And being an experimental service, Google was not willing to bear the extra costs, so BOOM - they blocked the developer.

    The developer doesnít have much to say but they have tried to express their grief in just a few short sentences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Innerfence
    Google has claimed no grievance with Infinite SMS other than its success. Their given reason for the block isnít abuse or wrongdoing; itís that we brought too many users (and thus too much cost) to an experimental service,
    Seems like a tremendous fail for Google. Being one of the biggest in the cyber world, they were unable to hold the pressure from a single app? That should mean if your app is in TOP 10, youíre making big bucks. At the same time, though, should they have any responsibility at all for maintaining 100% free access to their services for folks to make a profit? If it wasn't in the TOS, then I don't see why they should feel any pressure NOT to block them.

    For now, the app has been discontinued and we don't think it will re-appear soon. What about all those who have already purchased it? Many of them should be getting the Error Message 10 while sending.

    The developerís statement explains a bit about their situation as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Innerfence
    Apple does not give app developers any way to perform refunds. Hopefully, at 99Ę people will feel like our app paid for itself after only a few messages.
    [Innerfence]
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Google Can't Bear the Pressure, Shuts Down Free SMS Service for App Devs! started by sayam View original post
    Comments 39 Comments
    1. mofolo's Avatar
      mofolo -
      Quote Originally Posted by huntor View Post
      but in the end apple would win, and so would we.
      Apple wins, Consumer Looses.

      You really think apple cares that much about their customers?

      Hell No.

      They want you money. And that's that. To them, your nothing but a number with money.

      Except for the pesky block on MMS by AT&T on iPhone contracts which is completely out of Apple's hands.
      Why would AT&T block MMS when they could make money off it?
      No, Apple told AT&T to block MMS's in order to discourage users to jailbreak.

      John: Hey bob, I want MMS.. So i need to Jailbreak.
      Bob: Don't do that John! Mr Jobs won't like you if you do that sin. Plus, AT&T blocks your MMS's anyhow!
      John: Ahh Rats. Well I guess I'll have to stick to being a boring loser without MMS and miss out on all those sweet as nude photos of my girlfriend.
      Apple is starting to sh!t me.
    1. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
      Happy Noodle Boy -
      Quote Originally Posted by mofolo View Post
      Why would AT&T block MMS when they could make money off it?
      No, Apple told AT&T to block MMS's in order to discourage users to jailbreak.
      No, it really was AT&T. At first they were a bit lenient about it but once the 3G came out they changed things and specifically made it so that when you activate an iPhone plan MMS is automatically blocked.

      Apple never bothered with MMS because MMS is nothing more than glorified e-mail in their eyes and since they have the real thing well who needs it, but they did not tell AT&T to block MMS.

      I for one could care less about MMS and I've expressed this opinion here many times. However, I will gladly slowly and painfully torture whoever is responsible for viewmymessage.com. It's one thing to disable a service in a phone and it's another to provide the WORST POSSIBLE WORKAROUND IN THE HISTORY OF ANYTHING.
    1. Channan's Avatar
      Channan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Angry Noodle Boy View Post
      I for one could care less about MMS and I've expressed this opinion here many times. However, I will gladly slowly and painfully torture whoever is responsible for viewmymessage.com. It's one thing to disable a service in a phone and it's another to provide the WORST POSSIBLE WORKAROUND IN THE HISTORY OF ANYTHING.
      Well not all people are the same. Sure I could tell all my friends to remember my email address and send pics there, but it's just not very convenient. And not everyone has email on their phone so they can't check pictures right away, not to mention all the email addresses you have to put in your phone to send pics to everyone.

      MMS is just convenient. Though I wish we'd get MMS and a video and audio recorder from Apple to send those file types, too, sending pictures would be enough to make me happy. :]

      And actually I have no problem with viewmymessage.com. Just open MMS Buddy and load my images right in there and it's a lot like the MMS app Apple should have given us. Well, 1/2 of it anyway. Multimedia Messages lets me send pics as MMS, but not from my number. I pretty much have MMS on my phone, just not as nice as it could be and a little less convenient.
    1. huntor's Avatar
      huntor -
      Quote Originally Posted by mofolo View Post
      Apple wins, Consumer Looses.

      You really think apple cares that much about their customers?

      Hell No.

      They want you money. And that's that. To them, your nothing but a number with money.
      youre retarded if you actually think that.
      every company cares about the customers.

      apple let O2 add MMS.
      why not at&t?

      Quote Originally Posted by mofolo View Post
      Apple told AT&T to block MMS's in order to discourage users to jailbreak.
      thats completely assbackwards. im sure more then a few people jailbroke their phone just for mms.
    1. reanimationxp's Avatar
      reanimationxp -
      Quote Originally Posted by mrblader View Post
      Just like all those people who STILL THINK that they are the ones not supplying the community with MMS.
      Sigh.. this is probably the dumbest statement I've ever seen on the matter. Obviously ATT is guilty by association for not forcing apple to do it, but ultimately it is Apple that does not support it. You don't see SwirlyMMS in the app store, do you? Or MMS support on any other networks? Or any mention of why it's NOT available from Apple like every other feature they purposely excluded?

      It's obviously not ATT's fault.
    1. royalnewjersey's Avatar
      royalnewjersey -
      I'm on Google's side for this one. The Developer had no right using Google's service, and charging other people to use it. Sure he put the time and effort into developing the application, but c'mon.

      Google had every right to close it, whether it caused them technical OR financial problems. The hostile attitude of "Innerfence" is really off-putting. Their press releases seemed irritated at Google for shutting them down because "they hadn't done anything wrong, or violated Google's TOC".

      Shut up.... You knew it was sketchy when you started.
    1. riku98523's Avatar
      riku98523 -
      "That should mean if your app is in TOP 10, youíre making big bucks."

      This line is BS there is a difference from an app that say lets you play videos from your own storage than an app that is constantly costing google money. I am sure the load was extremely high even for google standpoints.

      Google has every right to stop this considering you paid what $1 for the app which in turn cost google $2-$100+ per user every day.
    1. Mehmet_s's Avatar
      Mehmet_s -
      I used it for couple of weeks,it was wonderful!
      but we can text message free from AOL or MSN
    1. greenleaf187's Avatar
      greenleaf187 -
      geez google, just think of it as an advertisement/promotion, do i have to tell you everything?
    1. BenzoHartt's Avatar
      BenzoHartt -
      wow.... i'm sure AT&T was leaning on them pretty hard. Its cutting out a line of service. i pay 20 a month fo unlimited texts.lol
    1. lightmaster's Avatar
      lightmaster -
      I was considering buying this app the other day, but decided to go with TextFree because I could send and receive text messages on my iTouch. Man am I glad I didn't go with Infinite SMS instead.
    1. lisalisa911's Avatar
      lisalisa911 -
      I loved that app...it really sucks that google has to be such a baby about it. They make a killing and cant afford to allow for free texting....WHATEVER! I am done with GOOGLE! They done pissed me off for the very last time!
    1. Kyle Matthews's Avatar
      Kyle Matthews -
      Pretty sure Google has no reason not to shut it down.
    1. phluid13's Avatar
      phluid13 -
      Let's not forget who approved the app in the first place. (If it hasn't been mentioned already)
    1. Kludge's Avatar
      Kludge -
      It's an experimental service and was never meant for production use. Sure it might go production eventually but they are not set up for that yet I would imagine. They are interested in developing some data on these apps for future use but they don't need the entire world slamming them to get it done.

      And has been pointed out building your business model off being a parasite on someone else's business isn't very smart nor is it nice.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kludge View Post
      And has been pointed out building your business model off being a parasite on someone else's business isn't very smart nor is it nice.
      But providing a user friendly front end for someone else's service is fine

      Did infinite claim they were providing the service?
      Did they state that Google were providing a beta service?

      I don't know how this was marketed.
      I believe it was just marketed as a front end for Gtalk - but as I don't live in the USA I never saw the app.
    1. mrblader's Avatar
      mrblader -
      Quote Originally Posted by huntor View Post
      bc apple>at&t.
      and bc apple can do w/e the hell they want.
      if they actually wanted to add mms, they would.
      at&t might cry a little, for reasons no one can understand.
      but in the end apple would win, and so would we.
      Apple already supports MMS, I believe O2 supports MMS, so those customers can d/l an app from the appstore that supports MMS.... It's not apple, its AT&T.

      Now, I do admit that Apple and AT&T ARE in cahoots with each other, but it is AT&T who will be paying the bills when all that picture data starts flowing through their networks.
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Quote Originally Posted by mrblader View Post
      Apple already supports MMS, I believe O2 supports MMS, so those customers can d/l an app from the appstore that supports MMS.... It's not apple, its AT&T.

      Now, I do admit that Apple and AT&T ARE in cahoots with each other, but it is AT&T who will be paying the bills when all that picture data starts flowing through their networks.
      Not sure what it's like in the US but in the UK MMS is charged separately.
    1. RonnyT24's Avatar
      RonnyT24 -
      I guarantee you this has more to do with iphone 3 and its "New Features" list than anything. Think about it.... the new phone comes out with "Cheap" SMS/Text plans and everyone gets off their nuts about not having it in the first 2 phones. If they let google keep doin the whole free thing what will apple have to brag about? Copy paste? Crippled bluetooth? Um... a new 32gb one? Itll support codecs? Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm yeah ya see where im going here..... I guarantee picture messaging will be the highlight of the new iphone and people will run across fire/broken glass/lava to get one... Its apples way of life... give a little but make it pretty... they will come.

      Oh and i love my iphone. Because of the apps and... well the thing is damn pretty alright. Yeah i said it.... smartasses...