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  • Rock Your Phone [ LAUNCH ] - iPhone Application Stores Abound


    The AppStore has been around a good while now. Cydia now has a retail aspect, which is being built out even more as you read this. And adding to the mix, Rock Your Phone, which we've been beta testing a while, is now live.

    Rock Your Phone actually includes their own jailbreak (or soft unlock, as they've decided to coin it) software as part of the process - you'll notice the procedure is fairly similar to Pwnage Tool, but a little different, and branded Rock Your Phone. Some Dev Team help was actually put into building the application. Mario Ciabarra, creator of Rock Your Phone, says "Without the Dev Team's help, and the entire independent iPhone community - this wouldn't be possible - so we are very grateful for their help and dedication. We are intending to give back to the community as well."

    One of the big pushes Rock Your Phone is advertising is every application purchased through RockYourPhone (which allows payment through PayPal, and all major credit cards) comes with a 10 day trial - you don't buy it unless you like it. Any app in their store can be installed free, and used for 10 days.

    A unified experience is another big push they're excited about. Applications can be purchased through the online store at RockYourPhone.com, through the mobile application, or through the desktop client (which works on OS X AND Windows, folks - although Mac users will need a hub, heh - sound familiar?).

    The app DOES require you to go through their "soft unlock," even if you're jalbroken already, but it won't mess with any of your Cydia apps, nor your AppStore apps. It sits side by side with Cydia and the AppStore, and in fact you can even see your Rock Your Phone apps wiithin Cydia in your installed packages (although the reverse isn't true).

    EDIT 03/14/09: The latest version of Rock Your Phone no longer requires their soft unlock if you've already jailbroken - it will simply install the Rock Your Phone app. Again, that means if you've already jailbroken, this will just install the app - no other "soft unlock" or anything is necessary.

    The application offerings are currently pretty slim pickings - there's 5. Those include Vonagent ($9.99) and IntelliScreen ($9.99), two applications which you're most likely familiar with. Elert (free) and IntelliDial ($2.99) are two other applications in the store, which are productivity enhancing apps. Elert allows you to see a popup notification of incoming emails, and IntelliDial allows you to browse contacts on your lockscreen in a CoverFlow format, and dial from there.

    The fifth app is pretty nifty, actually - custom profiles with MyProfiles ($12.99). Here's the feature list:
    • Custom alerting of email based on Subject, Sender, Sent Only to You, and Mail Accounts.
    • Custom alerting of SMS messages and missed calls based on caller phone #.
    • Modify the Vibrate Pattern so you can be quietly alerted to a specific email.
    • Repeating Alerts for Email, SMS, and Missed Calls.
    • Silence Calls via WhiteList or BlackList
    • Escalating Rings and Vibrate 1st then Ring
    • Adjust WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, Push Email, Auto Lock, and 3G based on Location, Time of Day, and more.
    • Automatic rules engine to enable profiles
    • Manual Override Profile by holding down the home button and pressing up and down on the Volume buttons.

    Overall, this is a solid system. The trial feature is nice, and the complete experience is pretty easy. It's not a Cydia replacement, as it isn't looking to distribute free software - which is where Cydia shines. It's more a commercial alternative to Cydia. (Cydia has thousands and thousands of packages, many of which are themes, and is constantly growing - with a subscriber base of over 1.5 million). Where Rock Your Phone shines is their solid retail aspect (which really is their niche - a full service independent iPhone Application Store), and the user experience. The setup is definitely attractive to devs and end users alike though, so it will be interesting to see how this app grows. I'd like to see how Cydia Store and Rock Your Phone compete, with such a large base already using Cydia. I'm pulling for them both - competition breeds innovation.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Rock Your Phone [ LAUNCH ] - iPhone Application Stores Abound started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 160 Comments
    1. felacio's Avatar
      felacio -
      I can't even get MyProfile to work.. when it was installing it froze my phone with a spinning wheel of death, I restarted the phone.. it said it was finishing the install, and seemed to install it fine anyways, I can go into it and set it up and all that jazz, but it doesn't actually do anything now it seems, no profile actually works, all ringtones are the same, all txt tones are the same.. etc. etc.

      whats the deal?
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      Quote Originally Posted by cheezy View Post

      More than 80% of us use "Certain Apps/Sources" so we get the AppStore apps free anyway,
      Maybe you should rephrase that to "More than 80% of us that are aged 14 or under use "Certain Apps/Sources" so we get the AppStore apps free anyway,"

      Most people grow up and don't use illegal apps.
    1. lisalisa911's Avatar
      lisalisa911 -
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      Maybe you should rephrase that to "More than 80% of us that are aged 14 or under use "Certain Apps/Sources" so we get the AppStore apps free anyway,"

      Most people grow up and don't use illegal apps.
      Right on!! I agree!!

      And on the subject of Rock Your Phone...its awesome..i had not one issue with it...granted, i read everything there was to read in this forum as well as the actual site of the application. If you follow the directions, and do your homework, it will work. I dont mind paying for these apps if they are worth it, it does offer 10 day free trial, so everyone complaining about paying for these apps, do not have to fret, try and buy it, if you like it, if not then move on....dont steal it.
      I have installed Elert, it works as it says..i love it..that was the one thing i really missed from when i had my Blackberry. I already had intelliscreen from when that first came out, and i just got the upgrade without any problems. It works just as great as it always has. No interference with Cydia, or anything else. All my programs are running like usual. So i have to give a BIG thumbs up to ROCK YOUR PHONE..
      Thank You for all your hard work and dedication! Keep on Rocking these awesome apps, looking forward to more!!!
    1. mokeiko's Avatar
      mokeiko -
      RYP,

      Please provide a .deb file for Elert as I dont want to install your app installer just to get it. In fact, You may want to provide all your apps with the ability to use .deb files so people, like myself, don't have to install another app installer.

      I would really love to try out your apps, but not at the cost of having my phone messed up to get it.

      Thanks.

      mokeiko
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      If they won't host on Cydia do you really think they will provide a .deb?
      And why are you still using .debs anyway?
    1. mokeiko's Avatar
      mokeiko -
      Installers, .deb, etc. It's all the same. My post may make it seem that I use .deb files but I've only use a .deb file once to update status notifier because cydia does not host the latest files from developers (the developer happened to host just .deb files, that's why I asked, I didn't know what a .deb file was until recently). I just thought it would be easier getting the files rather than using another app installer, that was the whole point. I should have said installers maybe?

      Sorry about the confusion in my post.

      mokeiko
    1. confucious's Avatar
      confucious -
      As I have stated before, I believe these apps should be in Cydia.
      The author has made a very buggy program to sell there other programs. It is not an app store IMHO, it is just a method one software house has decided to use and it doesn't work very well.

      I, for one, will not be using any of these programs and, if the state of their so called app store is anything to go by, I'm not sure I'd trust any of the actual programs anyway!
    1. mokeiko's Avatar
      mokeiko -
      Who cares what you want. It's obvious they won't go through Cydia, why do you think they use their own app installer? I never mentioned anything about the program being an app store. Buggy program or not, I made a request to RYP, not you.

      Quit being a sheep on people's post!

      mokeiko
    1. kwickone's Avatar
      kwickone -
      Quote Originally Posted by mokeiko View Post
      Who cares what you want. It's obvious they won't go through Cydia, why do you think they use their own app installer? I never mentioned anything about the program being an app store. Buggy program or not, I made a request to RYP, not you.

      Quit being a sheep on people's post!

      mokeiko
      Bit harsh don't you think?...especially against someone like confucious, who has been around a long time and have been very helpful to many people. He did not attack you in any way...just asked a question and offered info.

      You on the other hand, just attacked him for no reason.

      To quote a famous "Stripes" line: "Lighten up, Francis!"

      That being said...and I really mean no offense...just trying to calm things down....I too would like Elert as well WITHOUT RYP!
    1. lightmaster's Avatar
      lightmaster -
      Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
      If they won't host on Cydia do you really think they will provide a .deb?
      And why are you still using .debs anyway?
      In case you didn't know, the apps that you install through Cydia are downloaded in the .deb format. You may not manually download them, but they're still .deb files. So, to answer your question, everyone who jailbreaks uses .debs.
    1. mokeiko's Avatar
      mokeiko -
      Quote Originally Posted by kwickone View Post
      Bit harsh don't you think?...especially against someone like confucious, who has been around a long time and have been very helpful to many people. He did not attack you in any way...just asked a question and offered info.

      You on the other hand, just attacked him for no reason.

      To quote a famous "Stripes" line: "Lighten up, Francis!"

      That being said...and I really mean no offense...just trying to calm things down....I too would like Elert as well WITHOUT RYP!
      kwickone,

      He obviously hasn't been helpful to me. Please read my post again, which I apologized to him for typing some misinformation. Do you really think people should bow down to him because his seniority, then makes ignorant statements like "And why are you still using .debs anyway"? In my eyes, he's like any person, using these message boards, trying to get help and answers and learn about something we all have a common interest in.

      I don't know a lot about technical things, which is why I requested the .deb files (I know it's a unix file, but correct me if I'm wrong), but I do know when a person is being snide on my posts.

      I apologize to everyone for turning this thread into not what it should be by my comments, I just made a simple request to RYP and felt my post had been nullified by another poster, long time member or not.

      btw, nice quote.

      mokeiko
    1. rickyscivic's Avatar
      rickyscivic -
      how do i delete it? i went to delete it in cydia and it said ....

      "This operation involves the removal of one or more packages that are required for the continued operation of either cydia or iphoneOS. If you continue, you may not be able to use cydia or repair any damage."

      then it gives me 2 options:

      cancel operation (safe)
      force removal (unsafe)

      help please

      DO NOT INSTALL UNLESS YOU ARE SURE YOU WANT TO KEEP IT!!!!! THE ONLY WAY TO ERASE IT IS BY RESTORING YOUR PHONE...

      Resetting My iPhone
      If you would like to uninstall Rock Your Phone from your iPhone, simply choose restore in iTunes. This will remove all Rock Your Phone software and restore your iPhone to factory condition.

      Customer Care

      EDIT: i erased it from cydia with no problems, but others may not be as lucky so ...warning...
    1. llew's Avatar
      llew -
      @rickyscivic

      Is SSH still working? What does your Cydia repository say (Manage - Packages), everything in place?

      Have a look at your iPhones file system e.g. though winscp. There will be a lot of stuff remaining from Rock your phone.

      A complete restore is indeed the only way to really get rid of Rock installer.
    1. ares07's Avatar
      ares07 -
      IMO elert justifies having RYP installed by itself...its amazing...hope they update it to handle sms, calendar events and the upcoming push notification stuff
    1. RockSupport's Avatar
      RockSupport -
      We have been monitoring this forum and actively responding to all the support emails we have received to date. I am happy to say that as of right now we have resolved all known issues with the installation and initial setup process. We are also working hard to add PPC support for the initial soft-unlock.

      In addition several of the applications have received updates addressing all of the bugs that were identified. In particular the issue with Alerts not firing in MyProfiles for SMS and the ringtone not changing have been fixed.

      We have also made note of all of your suggestions for new features including Elert support for additional message types and allowing a "To" filter on email Alerts in MyProfiles. We have passed these on to the developers at Intelliborn and they are actively working on them.

      We are also in discussions with several different developers about adding their applications to the store. If of any you have applications of your own or know someone who does please have them register at Developer Login. There are thousands of Rock Your Phone customers waiting to Trial and Purchase the amazing applications the iPhone development community has created.

      We want to sincerely thank you for all your feedback and support during our launch week. Please check in frequently as we add new applications to our catalog that will Rock Your Phone!
    1. lisalisa911's Avatar
      lisalisa911 -
      I love the apps from RYP, they have all been awesome, and i am so looking forward to more apps....i especially love Elert, i really missed that from my blackberry...so this is so awesome!! Thank you for that!!
      ROCK ON!!
    1. vafirefighter's Avatar
      vafirefighter -
      Just a few things...

      Great conceipt! Should be a regular feature to any iPhone.
      Easy to install, no updates lately though
      Slightly "buggy" and VERY tempermental, especial getting the alerts to work with mail. I found if you turn off the mail notifications in settings it will work fine. I still have one email alert that refuses to work no matter what I try. As far as SMS alerts you have to do the same thing, turn them off in settings, so therefor you would have to create a alert for everyone..whew

      As far as customer support, I sent 2 emails, and had a reply back on both of them within the hour..thats awesome!!

      I hope the future brings lots of upgrades to fix the bugs. SOON!!

      Worth the 5 bucks in my opinion.
    1. eballesq's Avatar
      eballesq -
      Bug in MyProfiles --

      Quick Dismiss app appears to be disabled when MyProfiles is active (i.e., pressing home key will not dismiss calendar alerts, etc.). Perhaps an option can be added in MyProfiles to disable home key profile switching?
    1. rapanuy's Avatar
      rapanuy -
      Quote Originally Posted by RockSupport View Post
      We have been monitoring this forum and actively responding to all the support emails we have received to date.
      We want to sincerely thank you for all your feedback and support during our launch week. Please check in frequently as we add new applications to our catalog that will Rock Your Phone!
      Hi.
      great you are here answering questions. Please answer this one I already tried to get answered via mail:

      Hi.
      Up till yesterday I was a satisfied intelliscreen user.
      Now I have to accept some RockApp, which I canīt deinstall without also loosing intelliscreen.

      I have to live with one more icon on my homescreen which I donīt want. I used exactly 4 homescreens, and your (sorry) stupid RockApp creates a fifth for nothing.

      Why does intelliborn transfer my licence, personal data, mailadresse to a third party without asking me before??

      Please tell me if you can give me a refund for my paid licence, because now its no more fun using your app.

      Mike
    1. Jarcon49's Avatar
      Jarcon49 -
      i dont like it. goiing back to cydia