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  • Macworld Staffer Admits Jailbreaking, Posts Tutorial


    Macworld staffer Christopher Breen revealed yesterday that he had to jailbreak his iPad in order to project the screen display for the iPad Supersession he did with Ben Long at last week's Macworld. In a lengthy post, Breen provided detailed instructions for how to do a jailbreak - in a first for the mainstream Macworld.com - and highlighted Ryan Petrich's DisplayOut.

    Breen had used an Elmo overhead projector last year to display the iPhone's screen at his Supersession at Macworld 2010. This was "which is less than ideal," Breen wrote in his explanation of why he chose to jailbreak the iPad this year, "because the image can be fuzzy." For the two hour Supersession focused on the iPad this year, Breen and Long wanted a better solution so that attendees could see the screen clearly. For that, he had to use Apple's $29 iPad Dock Connector to VGA Adapter, jailbreak, and download DisplayOut from Cydia. With the justification out of the way, Breen then goes on to publish over a thousand words detailing exactly how to do a tethered jailbreak of an iPad using redsn0w, search Cydia and download and install DisplayOut. He even points out that it's better to manually reboot your device instead of letting Cydia do it for you.

    For Macworld - the original Mac magazine, which started a quarter-century ago and outlived or bought out most of its competitors - this is a significant change. The magazine and website regularly publish Apple-sourced FUD about jailbreaking, so it's a big deal for them to feature a JB tutorial in a post that concludes "we'll all celebrate the day when an untethered jailbreak is fully baked."

    Source: MacWorld
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Macworld Staffer Admits Jailbreaking, Posts Tutorial started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 36 Comments
    1. Tfost's Avatar
      Tfost -
      I like turtles
    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      Quote Originally Posted by Tfost View Post
      I like turtles
      Me too!
    1. Chris Breen's Avatar
      Chris Breen -
      Rather than simply count the bullet points, how about responding to those points? Which would you argue with and what counter arguments would you make? As I've tried to indicate, I understand the value of jailbreaking, but to suggest that it's a perfect solution or one without problems shows its own bias.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris Breen View Post
      Rather than simply count the bullet points, how about responding to those points? Which would you argue with and what counter arguments would you make? As I've tried to indicate, I understand the value of jailbreaking, but to suggest that it's a perfect solution or one without problems shows its own bias.
      Well, I read the article, and thought they were all valid points... Cons and pros.

      I do still agree that the tutorial signifies a slight change of direction, with regards to mainstream coverage and acceptance of Jail-Breaking in general.

      It's not just that you said you did it, it's that you told people how to do it. This will lead to more people joining the JB community (which I think is good) and perhaps lead more App designers to focus less on what Apple wants, rather than what they want their app to do.

      I say bravo! Keep it up, and I think you are right to point out the cons, because it will help people understand that Jail-Breaking is not a "set it, and forget it" type of thing.



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    1. Chris Breen's Avatar
      Chris Breen -
      Quote Originally Posted by CynicalDriver View Post
      it will help people understand that Jail-Breaking is not a "set it, and forget it" type of thing.
      I hope so. This probably isn't the right forum to say this, but I think when jailbreak enthusiasts ignore or deemphasize the pitfalls and difficulties they lose some credibility. While a lot of people who jailbreak their devices know what they're doing (and so can get out of any sticky situations) there are those with jailbroken devices (people living overseas who purchase them after they've been jailbroken) that haven't a clue what to do when their phone, iPod, or iPad acts up.

      For example, I had an issue with an iPad today that required I SSH into the device (using SFTP) to remove a component that was causing a problem. I couldn't restore and the component that was acting up locked up Cydia to the point where I couldn't remove it that way. Unless you know something of the jailbreak way and the iOS' structure, you'd be out of luck in such a situation.

      Given that I think it's fair to suggest that jailbreaking isn't for everyone, regardless of how useful it can be.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris Breen View Post
      I hope so. This probably isn't the right forum to say this, but I think when jailbreak enthusiasts ignore or deemphasize the pitfalls and difficulties they lose some credibility. While a lot of people who jailbreak their devices know what they're doing (and so can get out of any sticky situations) there are those with jailbroken devices (people living overseas who purchase them after they've been jailbroken) that haven't a clue what to do when their phone, iPod, or iPad acts up.

      For example, I had an issue with an iPad today that required I SSH into the device (using SFTP) to remove a component that was causing a problem. I couldn't restore and the component that was acting up locked up Cydia to the point where I couldn't remove it that way. Unless you know something of the jailbreak way and the iOS' structure, you'd be out of luck in such a situation.

      Given that I think it's fair to suggest that jailbreaking isn't for everyone, regardless of how useful it can be.
      I agree 100%. I have a lot of people ask me about my phone, and how I got it that way. If I KNOW they are tech savvy, I give them the quick-n-dirty. If I think they might need to do a lot of studying, I tell them it's not easy... If they persist, then I tell them to look for tutorials and FAQs on google

      You should check out a program called iPhone Fun Box (or is it iFun Box? Not at my computer right now) it's wonderful for stuff like that (total access browsing/editing files on the iPhone,) and is graphical, user friendly. Not sure if it's Windows only (I use 7) but I am sure there's similar software for Mac. This one even gave me limited access to a non-jailbroken iTouch 3, which doesn't sound like much, but to be able to browse the music outside of iTunes was something else!


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    1. Zokunei's Avatar
      Zokunei -
      ^ It's iFunBox
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zokunei View Post
      ^ It's iFunBox
      Thanks, I knew it was something like that.

      Off topic: they really need to add the "thank" button to the MMi app! It's annoying to have to switch to Safari to use it.
    1. CX3NT3_713's Avatar
      CX3NT3_713 -
      Displayout is indeed a good app, I got it for my ip4 ,ipt4 and iPad works great
    1. Mookest's Avatar
      Mookest -
      I love all of this. I would like to see a world when big name company's apps get rejected from apple they go to cydia next. Kinda like the sony reader issue. If I had millions of bucks to invest I head over to cydia and help expand the horizons. Maybe even help move into a android marketplace alternative. I know they are as restrictive but just like how there are many different grocery stores, I think there should be different app stores with there own pros and cons. We are on the verge of a "Mobile world". One day the dinosaur will be that big box under your desk and you will pick up your weightless monitor retract the keyboard and go.
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 -
      That's funny stuff! Good advertising for us
    1. EskimoRuler's Avatar
      EskimoRuler -
      Quote Originally Posted by lillstar12 View Post
      Ha thats some funny sh*t app store has nothing on Cydia (apart from more but useless apps)
      yea not quite useless but together you can do a lot with your idevice. i would image a lit of people jailbreak their devices to do presentation like this, i mean apple wants you to use their products but its hard when your limited to the types of items you can use them with
    1. Ddaniel87's Avatar
      Ddaniel87 -
      Having an idevice is much like having a car, you can either have it stock and be happy with it's performance and have the engine working smooth for the whole life of the car or tune it up so it runs faster and do things stock cars can't but its lifespan will be reduced, I don't know if it makes any sense to you guys but this is the way I think, so apple isn't making you do things the way the want you to, they're just telling you how your I device will work properly with the least amount of bugs, I'm sure cydia has a lot more bugs than a stock idevice but it also has its advantages.
    1. krosis's Avatar
      krosis -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ddaniel87 View Post
      Having an idevice is much like having a car, you can either have it stock and be happy with it's performance and have the engine working smooth for the whole life of the car or tune it up so it runs faster and do things stock cars can't but its lifespan will be reduced, I don't know if it makes any sense to you guys but this is the way I think, so apple isn't making you do things the way the want you to, they're just telling you how your I device will work properly with the least amount of bugs, I'm sure cydia has a lot more bugs than a stock idevice but it also has its advantages.
      That's a popular comparison, except your car doesn't come wih the hood welded shut. I think you'd enjoy saurik's presentation on why Software Should Have Screws.
    1. Snozberries's Avatar
      Snozberries -
      Quote Originally Posted by Archness View Post
      You pull out of our media event? We'll start giving your products coverage you don't want.
      +1 bump!

      Quote Originally Posted by cpkirkley View Post
      Heh, was thinking the same thing. Total win for Jailbreaking, and a total pooch screw for apple.
      +1 for the pooch screw comment! almost spit my coffe on my monitor!
    1. Ddaniel87's Avatar
      Ddaniel87 -
      Quote Originally Posted by krosis View Post
      That's a popular comparison, except your car doesn't come wih the hood welded shut. I think you'd enjoy saurik's presentation on why Software Should Have Screws.
      And how many average users actually pop open the hood on daily basis? Haven't you seen a BMW engine? When you open the hood you don't see anything but the oil/water fillings, I haven't open my car hood in more than a year I let the people at the shop do whatever it need to be done, same thing with the idevice, it's a way to ensure your idevice will run great, even if it means that you won't be able to do some things that most users dont really use.