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  • More Untethered Jailbreak Vulnerabilities Found by Pod2G


    @pod2g, recent iDevice hacker (not part of the Dev-Team), has recently shed some light on more vulnerabilities he has found that will allow for untethered jailbreaking. This brings us even closer to the untethered tools we've been waiting for, as now we are 100% sure that both teams have found working exploits.

    With this news, brings a more positive outlook on what we can see for jailbreaking iOS 4.3. Aside form the ASLR security, its looking like iOS 4.3's jailbreak tool, when it becomes available, could be untethered right from the start. Fingers crossed.

    Keep in mind that this is only vulnerabilities that have been found, and that there will still be some additional work required before they can be put to use by either team.

    Until then, things are looking very positive.

    Source: Twitter / pod2g: Hey, another untethered vu ...
    This article was originally published in forum thread: More Untethered Jailbreak Vulnerabilities Found by Pod2G started by nickhesson View original post
    Comments 117 Comments
    1. vantheman169's Avatar
      vantheman169 -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Well, Who is the buyer of Iphone?

      Who buys smart phones?

      So far businesses are not buying Iphones for work (Black Berry has the market and I hate Black Berry's )

      Some Teenager's are buying them yet my Son and Daughter are both 19 and in each of their circle they are anti Iphone and all for ANdroid cause its cooler according to them.

      My 21 yr old up north ( I'm in the deeeeeeep South USA) Would not buy an Apple Iphone either, he has a new Captivate Android. Why? Apple=Conformity to him.

      My three Kids are in different groups each, and yet not one of them I could get interested in Iphone so who is buying them? I am and my Wife, we are in our Late 40's.

      I think its Women and some Men young to older adults on the average, Yes they have the money to buy them and I would bet most JB are Men.

      People who are not the tech savvy will not JB on their own, yet if its easier to do like DL, CLick wait and its done, then more will JB

      With the attitude that "Only 10%" so it does not matter, well I think its more then that and would even be more if it was easy,

      Without JB Cydia would go away and all the tweaks............

      how many posts on here have asked for the JB by the way?
      All i hear is blah blah blah, wtf are you even talking about? Who cares what you prefer, apple still is ahead of android in sales so whats your point again? I dont care if your kids dont like the iPhone, there are millions of users that own the iPhone and what your kids have to do with not liking the iPhone makes no sense. There are always going to be Haters and people that prefer 1 device over another, nobody is saying you cant like android more the the iPhone. Personally i dont give a crap what you use, you can have a P.O.S Nokia Brick phone that has crappy snake on it. Does it effect me? Nope i will still be playing fruit ninja and angry birds whether or not you or your family will never own an iPhone. You have no argument here.
    1. iamkadaj's Avatar
      iamkadaj -
      The points and arguments given in this topic are great, but to be fair, JB'ing is HARD!
      it takes a lot of time, commitment and Money. These guys all have lives of their own, and I think it's unfair so many people are like "where's the damn jailbreak!"
      considering 98% of people wouldn't have a clue where to even start, have some respect for those who can do what we can't!


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    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Well, Who is the buyer of Iphone?

      Who buys smart phones?

      So far businesses are not buying Iphones for work (Black Berry has the market and I hate Black Berry's )

      Some Teenager's are buying them yet my Son and Daughter are both 19 and in each of their circle they are anti Iphone and all for ANdroid cause its cooler according to them.

      My 21 yr old up north ( I'm in the deeeeeeep South USA) Would not buy an Apple Iphone either, he has a new Captivate Android. Why? Apple=Conformity to him.

      My three Kids are in different groups each, and yet not one of them I could get interested in Iphone so who is buying them? I am and my Wife, we are in our Late 40's.

      I think its Women and some Men young to older adults on the average, Yes they have the money to buy them and I would bet most JB are Men.

      People who are not the tech savvy will not JB on their own, yet if its easier to do like DL, CLick wait and its done, then more will JB

      With the attitude that "Only 10%" so it does not matter, well I think its more then that and would even be more if it was easy,

      Without JB Cydia would go away and all the tweaks............

      how many posts on here have asked for the JB by the way?
      10% is a very generous estimation of jailbroken iPhones.

      My experiences give me a much different view of iPhone owners.

      I'm 27, I have one, my 26 year old sister has one, my 21 year old brother has one, my 14 year old sister has one, and 8 of my 11 cousins (ranging from 13 to 25) all have iPhones in addition to the 5 or so "grown ups" in my extended family that have them.

      Jailbreaking just doesn't appeal to some people. Out of my 16 relatives that have iPhones, only 3 of them are jailbroken. Most of them are fully aware of what it is and what it can offer, yet they choose to remain stock for whatever reason even when I've offered to do the "dirty" work for them.

      The average user just isn't that interested in it, much like the typical android user isn't that concerned with rooting, installing custom roms, etc.

      Apple does an absolutely wonderful job of simplifying most things for the less than tech-savvy people out there and that's what attracts a large number of the people to their portable devices.

      Does any of that make sense to me? Coming from a geek's perspective I struggle at times to understand it but I have to remember that we, the jailbreakers, are a significant minority, and of those that jailbreak, users such as you and I who frequent jailbreak websites make up a minority of that minority.

      If/when Apple ever releases a truly unjailbreakable iPhone, there may be a slight dip in sales, but they will surely overcome it in the long run.

      That probably sounded like a bunch of cluttered rambling, but oh well.
    1. EskimoRuler's Avatar
      EskimoRuler -
      That would awesome if it was unthethered right from the get go
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Well, Who is the buyer of Iphone?

      Who buys smart phones?

      So far businesses are not buying Iphones for work (Black Berry has the market and I hate Black Berry's )

      Some Teenager's are buying them yet my Son and Daughter are both 19 and in each of their circle they are anti Iphone and all for ANdroid cause its cooler according to them.

      My 21 yr old up north ( I'm in the deeeeeeep South USA) Would not buy an Apple Iphone either, he has a new Captivate Android. Why? Apple=Conformity to him.

      My three Kids are in different groups each, and yet not one of them I could get interested in Iphone so who is buying them? I am and my Wife, we are in our Late 40's.

      I think its Women and some Men young to older adults on the average, Yes they have the money to buy them and I would bet most JB are Men.

      People who are not the tech savvy will not JB on their own, yet if its easier to do like DL, CLick wait and its done, then more will JB

      With the attitude that "Only 10%" so it does not matter, well I think its more then that and would even be more if it was easy,

      Without JB Cydia would go away and all the tweaks............

      how many posts on here have asked for the JB by the way?
      [/QUOTE]

      You're forgetting a MAJOR fact, and huge flaw in your theory:
      You think iPhones are cool...
      Your kids think you're old (whether they tell you that, or not)...
      Therefore, what is cool to you, is junk to them.

      Your kids are purposely avoiding what you do/say/have. Welcome to being a parent of Teens +. Accept it.

      Quote Originally Posted by mortopher View Post
      10% is a very generous estimation of jailbroken iPhones.

      My experiences give me a much different view of iPhone owners.

      I'm 27, I have one, my 26 year old sister has one, my 21 year old brother has one, my 14 year old sister has one, and 8 of my 11 cousins (ranging from 13 to 25) all have iPhones in addition to the 5 or so "grown ups" in my extended family that have them.

      Jailbreaking just doesn't appeal to some people. Out of my 16 relatives that have iPhones, only 3 of them are jailbroken. Most of them are fully aware of what it is and what it can offer, yet they choose to remain stock for whatever reason even when I've offered to do the "dirty" work for them.

      The average user just isn't that interested in it, much like the typical android user isn't that concerned with rooting, installing custom roms, etc.

      Apple does an absolutely wonderful job of simplifying most things for the less than tech-savvy people out there and that's what attracts a large number of the people to their portable devices.

      Does any of that make sense to me? Coming from a geek's perspective I struggle at times to understand it but I have to remember that we, the jailbreakers, are a significant minority, and of those that jailbreak, users such as you and I who frequent jailbreak websites make up a minority of that minority.

      If/when Apple ever releases a truly unjailbreakable iPhone, there may be a slight dip in sales, but they will surely overcome it in the long run.

      That probably sounded like a bunch of cluttered rambling, but oh well.
      [/QUOTE]

      My experience is pretty much on par with yours concerning iPhones. I gave up trying to convert my mom, she bought a nook and an old-style LG phone. I know loads of people with iPhones though, and only 1 other person has it JB... Because, I did it for him, lol.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by CynicalDriver View Post
      My experience is pretty much on par with yours concerning iPhones. I gave up trying to convert my mom, she bought a nook and an old-style LG phone. I know loads of people with iPhones though, and only 1 other person has it JB... Because, I did it for him, lol.
      Yup! Other than my little sister, the only reasons the others are jailbroken are bc they wanted iPads and I explained why to just buy a wifi model an jailbreak to tether. Otherwise they wouldn't have much need to jb at all.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by mortopher View Post
      Yup! Other than my little sister, the only reasons the others are jailbroken are bc they wanted iPads and I explained why to just buy a wifi model an jailbreak to tether. Otherwise they wouldn't have much need to jb at all.
      Yeah, even I only jalbroke my iPhone to get tethering on unlimited data... I came to really value it after that.

      I'm a geek at heart, but until then... I just couldn't be bothered.


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    1. mmaboi21's Avatar
      mmaboi21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Reasons, whats the reason to Jailbreak then?

      What good is doing something if nobody cares or wants it?

      The Dev team is important because:
      1. People want JB
      2. Others make money on JB (Cydia, Themeit)
      3. It ticks of Apple
      4. Dev Team proves their skill and could be worth $$$ in the Dev world, they could be offered a lot of $$$ for work.

      So why should they care? Because without coming out with more JB the popularity drops, the interest drops, we live in a "What have you done lately?" world not "I did that years ago" world.

      Its naive to think people will not switch from Iphone to Android, if the JB becomes a memory then people will switch:
      Android has enough Apps now, the phones are getting better and rival Iphone 4, so if you want the customization and tweaks and can't JB Iphone what will people do?

      People are fickle, what is hot is what people want, think about Highschool kids, you think they are loyal to Apple? LOL no, they could care less, they are a target group for these phones and I can tell you right now, my Kids are 19 and 21 and none of them want an Iphone, most of their friends do not want or have an Iphone. That speaks volumes to me, it means the Iphone is not cool to them, so who is going to buy the Iphone in the future?

      For Iphone to grow and have a future JB must be a part of it.

      So if Iphone becomes lame and people do not care anymore, what happens to the Dev team? A memory, yesterday's PacMan.
      A lot of people I know around that age have iPhones, and as for the other stuff I'm done debating about it cause to me it's really pointless. I see your point but I don't really care( again no offense I'm just being honest) all I know is these guys work hard to make me enjoy my device much more.
    1. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
      iPhoneThereforeIAm -
      It's difficult to understand why people decline to JB.
      I guess it's rooted in fear, which is rooted in ignorance or misperception of what a JB actually is.
      Those who eschew the great and many benefits of a JB probably have a distorted view of risk, borne of a poor grasp of probability.
      IOW, they are excessively risk-averse.

      I suspect they are also very tedium-tolerant, not minding all the hassle that goes with the stock OS.

      JB'ers OTOH, are probably glass half-full in outlook and place a high value on functionality. In short, they probably have a low tedium-tolerance threshold.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by iPhoneThereforeIAm View Post
      It's difficult to understand why people decline to JB.
      I guess it's rooted in fear, which is rooted in ignorance or misperception of what a JB actually is.
      Those who eschew the great and many benefits of a JB probably have a distorted view of risk, borne of a poor grasp of probability.
      IOW, they are excessively risk-averse.

      I suspect they are also very tedium-tolerant, not minding all the hassle that goes with the stock OS.

      JB'ers OTOH, are probably glass half-full in outlook and place a high value on functionality. In short, they probably have a low tedium-tolerance threshold.
      Really?
      There are risks involved with JBs, nothing unfixable as far as I know, but risks none the less.
      Distorted how? Exactly.

      Yes, hunting down a working JB, then dealing with SHSH, SSH, BootRom compatibilities, untethered vs tethered JBs, Cydia apps that completely devastate the phone to the point of restore, countless "tweaks" that emulate other tweaks...

      NONE of that is tedious... Not at all!

      /sarcasm

      People avoid JailBreaking because it requires a lot of tedious research, and time. Just relying on the App-Store means that the phone rarely needs a restore, not to mention how much easier it is to actually make a purchase via App-Store.

      JailBreaking is just that... breaking the phone out of a restrictive environment (jail=Apple control) which by it's very nature REQUIRES tedious work. You can't "bust someone loose" without loads of planning, study, and preparation.
    1. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
      iPhoneThereforeIAm -
      Quote Originally Posted by CynicalDriver View Post
      Really?
      There are risks involved with JBs, nothing unfixable as far as I know, but risks none the less.
      Distorted how? Exactly.

      Yes, hunting down a working JB, then dealing with SHSH, SSH, BootRom compatibilities, untethered vs tethered JBs, Cydia apps that completely devastate the phone to the point of restore, countless "tweaks" that emulate other tweaks...

      NONE of that is tedious... Not at all!

      /sarcasm

      People avoid JailBreaking because it requires a lot of tedious research, and time. Just relying on the App-Store means that the phone rarely needs a restore, not to mention how much easier it is to actually make a purchase via App-Store.

      JailBreaking is just that... breaking the phone out of a restrictive environment (jail=Apple control) which by it's very nature REQUIRES tedious work. You can't "bust someone loose" without loads of planning, study, and preparation.
      With all disrespect, that's a crock - and I have no idea why you're spouting such BS.

      I've had five iDevices and in three years, only restored one device once.

      Once I saw what JB'ing could do and looked for possible downsides, I went ahead and did it the next day.
      I guess for those who are dependent on the hearsay of acquaintances due to a lack of net search skills, it's not a level playing field.

      That said, indolence and indifference would also account for a lot of it too.

      But if I were a JB-virgin, saw the benefits and saw that it was readily reversible, I'd have no hesitation in trying it out.

      It would still be interesting to know everything that goes into the decision not to JB.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by iPhoneThereforeIAm View Post
      I've had five iDevices and in three years, only restored one device once.
      Allow me to be the first person to call BS on this.

      If it somehow is true, then you clearly are not modding your device to it's potential.
    1. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
      iPhoneThereforeIAm -
      Quote Originally Posted by mortopher View Post
      Allow me to be the first person to call BS on this.

      If it somehow is true, then you clearly are not modding your device to it's potential.
      I always weigh up the value of a mod, for this very reason.
      Restoring/re-JB'ing's a time-consuming PITA - and only someone with too much time on their hands would risk that possibility.
    1. 97vrsix's Avatar
      97vrsix -
      One thing I may be blind to, but has any started an area for tethered unlocks/breaks? for the 3Gs?
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by iPhoneThereforeIAm View Post
      I always weigh up the value of a mod, for this very reason.
      Restoring/re-JB'ing's a time-consuming PITA - and only someone with too much time on their hands would risk that possibility.
      Allow me to be the first to point out the hypocrisy in your thinking...

      Time consuming PITA = TEDIOUS.

      Get off your horse.
      Read a dictionary.
      Come back with a stable opinion, that doesn't wobble like Obama without a telepromter!

      Everything I said remains true, and now you sound like a tool.


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    1. mmaboi21's Avatar
      mmaboi21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by CynicalDriver View Post
      Come back with a stable opinion, that doesn't wobble like Obama without a telepromter!


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      Lol Obama...
    1. delusion950's Avatar
      delusion950 -
      this is indeed great news.