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  • More Untethered Jailbreak Vulnerabilities Found by Pod2G


    @pod2g, recent iDevice hacker (not part of the Dev-Team), has recently shed some light on more vulnerabilities he has found that will allow for untethered jailbreaking. This brings us even closer to the untethered tools we've been waiting for, as now we are 100% sure that both teams have found working exploits.

    With this news, brings a more positive outlook on what we can see for jailbreaking iOS 4.3. Aside form the ASLR security, its looking like iOS 4.3's jailbreak tool, when it becomes available, could be untethered right from the start. Fingers crossed.

    Keep in mind that this is only vulnerabilities that have been found, and that there will still be some additional work required before they can be put to use by either team.

    Until then, things are looking very positive.

    Source: Twitter / pod2g: Hey, another untethered vu ...
    This article was originally published in forum thread: More Untethered Jailbreak Vulnerabilities Found by Pod2G started by nickhesson View original post
    Comments 117 Comments
    1. imranbandial's Avatar
      imranbandial -
      Is there any hope for unlock too.
    1. ReggieSmith's Avatar
      ReggieSmith -
      When they finally release it, as opposed to "jb right around the corner" news updates, THEN I'll believe it. If they are holding it back to keep apple from patching it too quickly, apple wins by default. It will always be too easy for apple to patch the holes.
    1. Leolion311's Avatar
      Leolion311 -
      jailbreak 4.2.1 completed by greenpois0n thank god finaly
    1. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
      iPhoneThereforeIAm -
      @ the impatient moaners : -
      If a working JB is ready for release BEFORE Apple unleashes new firmware, it's released straight away.
      But if there's a significant period between Apple FW release and JB readiness, then it's held back until the next FW release in order to maximise its useful life.
    1. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
      iPhoneThereforeIAm -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      OMG they already know that 4.3 is not as JB'able as 4.2, then why hold back what they can do now? Once 4.3 comes out typical Apple will stop signing the 4.2, with all due respect, its idiotic to keep posting, "Patience" "give the Dev team praise" for what? not releasing a working JB and to hold it because we will not have a JB for 4.3? The news is we will not so lets JB 4.2 now for those who can and move on to 4.3 and what ever............

      Moaner's? We were told 2 months ago there was a JB, we are told this month there is a JB

      and its not out! Come on stop trying to candy coat reality!
      Unlike JB's, exploits are usually not FW-specific.
      From the Dev POV, why blow a valuable exploit on a FW half-life ?
    1. sephiroth726's Avatar
      sephiroth726 -
      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      Because 4.3 closes the exploit I think, at least from what I read.................if it does then why save it?
      This story says 4.3 may be untethered from start so we have told Apple there's a problem with the beta 4.3..... good idea



      You may not get it
      your not entitled
      Dev team holds the cards not the community
      We should thank the dev team for not releasing it
      We should be glad that thousands of Verizon Iphone customers will not join us and overwhelm Cydia

      If you Dev and sell apps in Cydia or other than Apple app store, be glad the Dev team is thinking of you.
      Trust me I get it and it is much appreciated, I am just not patient and it's been a rough couple days...
    1. celeron's Avatar
      celeron -
      Finally but as some users im still waiting for the untethered for 4.2.1
    1. iamkadaj's Avatar
      iamkadaj -
      Quote Originally Posted by lepetitmort84 View Post
      Good news. Though here I am rockin an iPhone 4 4.0 that is jailbroken but not unlocked. Still can't use it. Sad.
      you can unlock 4.0 no problem!


      Sent from my iPhone using ModMyi
    1. Jay316's Avatar
      Jay316 -
      New vulnerabilities means that jailbreaking is still possible. Doesn't exactly speed up the process though...
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      Quote Originally Posted by cbdy2003 View Post
      Lol.....100 Jailbreak Vulnerabilities Found!!!!!!!!!!

      BUT 0 untethered jailbreak since 4.2.1 release!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Great TEAM!!
      Seriously? Let them do their job!
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Ok. They found more holes...
      Can they use them in a practical way?
      Are any of them "long term" holes?

      Those are two very important factors. We HAVE a tethered 4.2.1 JB. So, finding holes doesn't guarantee anything except that Apple will now look for them as well, because they talked.

      You want to shut Apple's machine down for a while? Then when the next magical solution is found for iOS 4.4, say you found no "useable exploits." THEN hold off on release until 5.0! We all know that all .* releases are "fluff" to keep users quiet until the next *.0. Apple is NOT alone in this game, stop pretending they invented it.

      It is a two way street. If they are going to start keeping quiet, we need to stop complaining about it! Upgrade firmware once a "cycle" and phones every other year. You may own the phone, but Apple has the right to develop the software as they see fit.
    1. 97vrsix's Avatar
      97vrsix -
      +1 sick to death! Forward the tools, I'll do my best to leRn them.

      I just want to use my phone! I'd even pay them for a release! I use my phone for business, and take credit cards with it. ATT sucks, and I want to use my phone with tmo! But in stuck at 5.14.2. Shsh blobs for everything back to 3. But that's not help.

      If you can do it, and found a bunch of holes, how about doing it then. I'm nor trying to be a ****. I've donated, I've helped, and have asked very little. I'll pay for the tools. Lol.

      Android is something I'm considering now. I'm looking in to program swapping.


      Sent from my iPhone using ModMyi
    1. that_girl's Avatar
      that_girl -
      I wonder if the shatter exploit will ever be released. I think Apple will patch it for iP5 anyway, so they might as well use it for iP4.
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Quote Originally Posted by that_girl View Post
      I wonder if the shatter exploit will ever be released. I think Apple will patch it for iP5 anyway, so they might as well use it for iP4.
      Doesn't make any sense to use it though since it does nothing that the limerain exploit doesn't already do.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by that_girl View Post
      I wonder if the shatter exploit will ever be released. I think Apple will patch it for iP5 anyway, so they might as well use it for iP4.
      With as long as "shatter" has been talked about... Apple probably already has a fix, they're just playing the JB-Dev game of release waiting. They'll have a *.*.1 the week shatter is released.

      "Apple releases 4.3.1, to fix a bug that caused some users to lose text-history without notice."

      No such bug will have occurred outside of Apple, and shatter won't work on it. One week of JB-Jolly, then the gates close, and it starts all over from scratch. Had shatter never been discussed... It would have taken at least a month to get closed.

      Nobody will convince me that Apple doesn't have the money to buy this info from those who know.
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Shatter is not the type of exploit that can be patched with a firmware update. It is a bootrom exploit just like limerain. Only a hardware change can patch it.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by x98car View Post
      Shatter is not the type of exploit that can be patched with a firmware update. It is a bootrom exploit just like limerain. Only a hardware change can patch it.
      If that's the case, then why are they worried about "burning" it? At this point... Yes, wait for iPhone 5, but they "had it working" in October.

      No, there's a way for Apple to stop it, they just do what hackers can't... Keep quiet.

      Quote Originally Posted by DRFP View Post
      OK but what makes some of us angry is reports "The JB may be held" and crap like that.

      It gets some of us mad like we do not matter,


      We should wait
      We should thank them

      But what about what we want? OK some of you want to wait, some of you think its Fine because the Dev team is doing whats in our best interest, but we want to be heard and want to be in on the decisions to release the JB or not.

      It seems like we don't matter and some the posters on MMYI do nothing but tell us we don't matter.......... and that makes some us more angry.
      You don't matter... You did nothing to earn a vote other than to use what they developed... For free. You are not a share-holder in JBinc.
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Quote Originally Posted by CynicalDriver View Post
      If that's the case, then why are they worried about "burning" it? At this point... Yes, wait for iPhone 5, but they "had it working" in October.

      No, there's a way for Apple to stop it, they just do what hackers can't... Keep quiet.
      Back in October they were ready with shatter. Limerain came out instead and the plan was to keep shatter under wraps since both those exploits are very similar. They both produce a tethered jailbreak for the life of the devices they now work on. They are not patchable by software. Of course since then shatter was leaked meaning both bootrom exploits could be patched in the next hardware revision by apple. I think you may be confusing what this news story is about which has nothing to do with shatter.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      Quote Originally Posted by x98car View Post
      Back in October they were ready with shatter. Limerain came out instead and the plan was to keep shatter under wraps since both those exploits are very similar. They both produce a tethered jailbreak for the life of the devices they now work on. They are not patchable by software. Of course since then shatter was leaked meaning both bootrom exploits could be patched in the next hardware revision by apple. I think you may be confusing what this news story is about which has nothing to do with shatter.
      I am confusing nothing. I switched to shatter in response to another poster's comment.

      A boot-rom does not need a complete hardware revision, just a different chip installed at the time of manufacture. For all we know.. The VeriPhone already has the fix.

      As for the leak... That proves my point about hackers not keeping quiet. These kinds of hackers are motivated by two things;

      Glory: Which means they have to proclaim victory, which leads to bickering and leaks.

      Personal product usability: Which means they started because they wanted to get different functionality. SOME stay quiet until they're done. MOST become glory-mongers the moment they get a small breakthrough.

      Assume what you like, but reality is reality. I know plenty of ways Apple could stop shatter WITHOUT a rom change. They would just have a lot of bad PR and p*'d JBers if they put them into practice.
    1. liamwalsh21's Avatar
      liamwalsh21 -
      All the people ******** and moaning need to relax. 4.2.1 is already jailbroken. It may be tethered but who cares i did mine ages ago and it working fine i have rebooted it once since i did it. I dont even need a jailbreak i have an iphone 4 32gb factory unlocked. If you need it that bad then go tethered and give it a rest!