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  • From Jailbreak to AppStore (and back?!?!) [GIVEAWAY INSIDE]


    Remember Buzzer? Or any of the MooCow apps like Band? How bout THTouch? Garf? Dactyl? iBlackjack?

    All of these were once in Installer (heck, remember Installer?!?) as jailbreak apps - pre-AppStore. Those were just some of the apps ModMyi hosted, and there's tons more that were on Installer on other sources - TapTap Revolution, NeverPutt, Lights Off, Twinkle, iBeer, WeDict, Trism, Sketches, DropCopy, iComic, Tunewiki, Labyrinth, Lexitron, Crosswalk, iWoman, MPG, CalcPaper, ShopList, Domino, ToDo, iSlots, and PocketMoney for example. When the AppStore went live, many devs were able to use their extensive testing in the jailbreak community to release great AppStore apps. (Here's iTunes links for the ones I named in first paragraph: Buzzer | Band | THTouch | Garf | Dactyl | iBlackjack (now Blackjack 21) ).

    The AppStore started as a brilliant new market for devs to gather success in, and guaranteed instant ROI for early entrants. Now, however, with the number of apps pushing past 60,000, the AppStore is fast becoming a cluttered file cabinet in which nothing can be found. $0.99 apps reign supreme on every top chart, forcing large companies to rethink decisions on million dollar budgets for flippin sweet games they could have sold at $9.99 (as they did early on) in favor of cheaper apps they can churn out monthly and sell at a buck or three. Sure, "there's an app for that," definitely rings true with 60k apps... but where's the innovation going to be if you drive all devs into $0.99 RefuseLand?

    Apple obviously banked on success with this model of profit (sell a sweet phone, make money off the software), but I'm pretty sure they didn't have a clue HOW successful it would be. The payment system and reporting areas for AppStore devs are anything BUT Apple-esque. They're confusing, strangely organized, and payments often come in late and unlabeled. Amounts are regularly off (assuming from the various tax laws) but with no clear explanation anywhere. Apps are approved in a day or in 90, with no standard and no reason. Dev's receive rejection letters citing outlandish reasoning, while other apps whose sole objection is to shake a baby to its death are approved (albeit quickly pulled when the media gets wind of it). Fart apps are told they can't be in the AppStore, then weeks later reach the top 10. It seems Apple needs to hire some more folks to keep up and revitalize.

    Meanwhile, the Cydia Store is becoming a more and more viable option for individual developers. With nearly a quarter million dollars in revenue already, developers are starting to pay more attention to Cydia as a sustainable source of income. While $250,000 in revenue over a few months is paltry compared to the AppStore's glory, it's impressive none-the-less - Cydia has less than 40 paid packages currently. It's got a user base of millions, and with a much smaller number of packages, sales are doing great for devs. I've got emails in my inbox from more than one AppStore dev thinking about pulling their app from Apple and vending in Cydia instead. And we're not the only one - other Cydia repo owners are already hosting lite versions of AppStore apps as advertisement, and incoming AppStore apps removed from Apple are the next logical step for many devs.

    Of course, this is not to say the AppStore isn't a solid way to generate income - it definitely is. The point being, until recently, it was the ONLY option, and is congested and feeling some growing pains. It's very interesting to see emails coming in from devs thinking about backing OUT of the AppStore into Cydia.

    Welcome.



    Finally, why not give something away? Buzzer, one of those Cydia to AppStore apps, just hit the AppStore recently, and we've got 5 promo codes to give out. Only works in the US AppStore, so be aware of that. All you've gotta do to win one is reply to this thread with your thoughts on the story (if you've got one sentence to say, I'm not even gonna count it), and we'll choose 5 random winners Thursday morning (EST).
    This article was originally published in forum thread: From Jailbreak to AppStore (and back?!?!) [GIVEAWAY INSIDE] started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 74 Comments
    1. Jorgepinzon10's Avatar
      Jorgepinzon10 -
      Cool, I want one of those giveaways!
    1. angiepangie's Avatar
      angiepangie -
      It's kind of sad what the app store has become It used to be really awesome and finding useful and really great apps was common. Finding more than one fart app in the top apps at a time (paid & free) is kind of sad.

      I'm glad that Cydia is really flourishing
    1. dvn821's Avatar
      dvn821 -
      Lol they are going up a step.
    1. blazingangel1986's Avatar
      blazingangel1986 -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      I am glad to see the Cydia Store is taking off
      Glad that there are alternatives than just the app store besides big brother apple needs some competition to take a piece of the pie dev's need support one way or another
    1. almulder's Avatar
      almulder -
      I am glad to see developers exploring other options such as cydia. Until Apple finds a better way of sorting there apps and making them easier to find and navigate along with not reject so many apps. Else people will always be looking for another place to distribute their software.
    1. ihaveabu's Avatar
      ihaveabu -
      i still say google should just release their voice app on cydia. **** with apple some more
    1. lillewis51's Avatar
      lillewis51 -
      if i was a developer i would put it on both and see which one is working better for me. im guessing cydia would be the obvious choice since i can never find anything on the app store
    1. alanflowerman's Avatar
      alanflowerman -
      OK So I gotta ask you all. Are you all old gits like me 49, everyone seems to be saying that they wish they could pay more for better apps instead of Appstore craps. This is a lot different to a year ago when everyone wanted all apps for free.
    1. ultimatexpka's Avatar
      ultimatexpka -
      I remember using Dactyl, it was one of the good few games that came out, I think that was before the appstore...
    1. OneFan's Avatar
      OneFan -
      I'm feeling lucky today.
      Hope I win!
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      If you want to increase your chance of winning, go to the front page of MMi and join us on irc. Come in and say hi to me and to dale
    1. clive.weller's Avatar
      clive.weller -
      I am not into games whatever the source. However, the only place for apps that actully make for a good iPone are in Cydia such SBSettings, LiveClock, WeatherIcon, Five Column Springboard/Dock, LogoMe, FontSwap,iBluetooth, Etc, Etc, Etc. Apple hasn't got a clue when it comes to what people really want! Even with V3.0 they still have not got it right.
    1. angiepangie's Avatar
      angiepangie -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      If you want to increase your chance of winning, go to the front page of MMi and join us on irc. Come in and say hi to me and to dale
      I would but I don't have an IRC client or any idea how to use it.
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Quote Originally Posted by angiepangie View Post
      I would but I don't have an IRC client or any idea how to use it.
      angiepangie there is a web based one on the front page
    1. angiepangie's Avatar
      angiepangie -
      gotcha going now
    1. spittips101's Avatar
      spittips101 -
      I have no way of buying things on the Cydia store. I wish it was still all free!
      The iTunes store needs Top sections for >$0.99, $0.99, and free app. Seems that might solve this issue.
    1. angiepangie's Avatar
      angiepangie -
      Cydia never was "all" free (as long as I've been in the iPhone JB frenzy at least), it just never had a good way to organize all the sold apps.
    1. adsonjustin's Avatar
      adsonjustin -
      ahh...memories. I like that the AppStore might have some competition with cydia.
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      ^ me too.

      Cydia apps are awesome too, no rules
    1. snoozkewl's Avatar
      snoozkewl -
      As a developer my first concern is how do my customers give away their money. With the App Store its with in iTunes, where they already buy music, movies, and shows. Their credit numbers are locked in and ready to to be charged with the click of a button.
      When it comes to Cydia, it seems so thrown together and 3rd party generated, that as a customer I would not want to give my credit information to this app. I like having the ability to access my files on my iPhone via SSH, but with jailbreaks come much more opportunity for everyone to have a phone that can circumvent DRM and get warez copies of software.

      So in conclusion, I'm glad that jailbreaking and installing cydia is not "too" simple and keeps the number of users that only have the option, and "satisfaction" of buying the apps they want from a DRM source they can trust.