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  • California Court Grants Sony Restraining Order Against Geohot


    The Washington Post is reporting this morning that a California court has approved Sony's restraining order against Geohot.

    Less than three weeks ago, the consumer electronics giant Sony proceeded to file the order against jailbreaker extraordinaire George Hotz, aka Geohot. Hotz and his team were in Sony's legal line of sight for allegedly bypassing "effective technological protective measures" in PlayStation 3 firmware version 3.55. Earlier this month, Geohot released a controversial jailbreak which enables PlayStation 3 hackers to run custom packages on the console.

    [Hotz] maintains that he never intended the hack to aid game piracy and, in fact, told the G4 network show "Attack of the Show" that he took measures to keep the code from being used in that manner.
    Sony has previously encountered some resistance in its pursuit of a temporary restraining order when Judge Susan Illston "expressed reservations over whether or not her jurisdiction extended to the case." The California court, however, ultimately sided with Sony. And the rest is now history.

    According to published reports, Sony's temporary restraining order (TRO) requires Geohot to stop putting hacker-related information and instructions on the web about the PS3 hack. Hotz has all but 10 days to comply with the court order and fork over his computers to the PlayStation maker. But as the Post notes, Geohot's hack is "readily available through mirror sites across the Internet." And Sony's restraining order is powerless to change that reality.

    So what is Sony trying to accomplish? Without question, Sony is trying to make an example out of Geohot. But will it work? As tech reporter Hayley Tsukayama observed in her Washington Post coverage, Hotz has "become something of a cult hero in the hacking community." Sony persecution will likely serve to only increase Geohot's celebrity status.

    Washington Post
    This article was originally published in forum thread: California Court Grants Sony Restraining Order Against Geohot started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 71 Comments
    1. steelersfan32's Avatar
      steelersfan32 -
      Congrats Sony, you (maybe) stopped one hacker. But if you think he's the only one you're mistaken. Other people will stand up and assume his position soon enough; and that's assuming this will even stop him. The problem is, Sony, you went after the wrong man; you stopped the man who bypassed the security, not the man that used the security hole to pirate games. You can't stop piracy, there'll always be someone trying to steal your work, but you think taking out a hacker that's against piracy is going to help you? Sony you can't win this game, this is just a small dent in the huge community that hackers have.
    1. kraziebone's Avatar
      kraziebone -
      This won't stop jailbreaking game consoles. If anything it will add fuel to it. The only thing that will change is the hackers will work in the shadows instead of being public like this. This makes sony products so much less enticing. I run a softmodded wii thanks to @comex, and I love it. It makes my wii 1000x more enticing and I run absolutely no pirated material. I also run XBMC to play all my multimedia and my WiiRemote is the mouse on my media PC. The jailbreak community doesn't hurt consoles, it opens them up to new revenue from enthusiasts who reverse engineer the products and offer up amazing and useful projects. This will only hurt Sony I can guarantee you that
    1. thevmax's Avatar
      thevmax -
      Geohot will come out of this still alive and well.
    1. Ace01xc's Avatar
      Ace01xc -
      Donate. Donate to geohot so he can fight this everyOne should donate at least $1 we all cause with out this guys like hot devteam and bothered JB team our device would not so cool so geohot I'm donating 200 good luck
    1. steeda763's Avatar
      steeda763 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ace01xc View Post
      Donate. Donate to geohot so he can fight this everyOne should donate at least $1 we all cause with out this guys like hot devteam and bothered JB team our device would not so cool so geohot I'm donating 200 good luck
      GeoHot's web site says that any donation fund collections are scams as of right now. Otherwise I'd be happy to donate.
    1. saunupe1911's Avatar
      saunupe1911 -
      Somebody is backing GeoHot financially. Sony won't win this legal battle easily. This is only going to drive console makers to produce better firmware. It's still a win for consumers. By the way, I just jailbroke my PS3 using a different method other than GeoHot. There's still a very large community dedicated to jailbreaking the PS3. Backing up my games and playing custom BD movies from the hard drive is great options to have.
    1. bigorangekitty's Avatar
      bigorangekitty -
      It's all about the money Sony is throwing around. They want a message sent, and they will do it at ALL costs. Unfortunately, it'll be interesting to see what backlash this will have in our community. Sony sucks donkey balls. Can I say that? Or will it be censored? or will Sony have it removed?
    1. arem's Avatar
      arem -
      Quote Originally Posted by OleBayCrab View Post
      He had to go and pick a gaming system. They are considered CPU's. Geo needed to just stick with the smartphones. They are protected. Now he's SCREWED. SONY ain't gonna just take it. They have more lawyers, they will make his life miserable. The "intent" doesn't matter, its the end result that's got him in hot water.
      A console is considered a CPU? Really?


      ......no. It's not.


      Intent doesn't matter? The end result is all that matters? Are you an idiot?
      It's not his fault that someone else decided to misuse his code.
      Your argument is like saying that someone who designed a tire iron is responsible for another person using it to beat someone to death.

      He'll be fine, Sony can fux0r off...he owns the device and can do whatever he wants with it.
    1. ExoX2010's Avatar
      ExoX2010 -
      I think Sony is aware that this will not stop the hackers. It's just a scare tactic and that's it. I also believe that Sony is doing this scare tactic to kind of slow down hackers in order to find a way to fix this problem. But they know the end result will be against them. The best solution as of right now is to do what Microsoft does and ban consoles and what not. Sony is doing what a company should do...and that is to protect it's product. Even if it does seem "lame".
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      "effective technological protective measures"

      Lol: I guess they put 'effective' in there to curb their embarrassment? Obviously it's now ineffective.
    1. bigorangekitty's Avatar
      bigorangekitty -
      I just hate the fact that if I BUY something, I don't want someone telling me what I can and can't do with it. I bought a stove, does GE tell me what I can and can't cook on it? I bought a TV, does Panasonic tell me what I can and can't watch on it? I bought paper at Staples, do they tell me what I can and can't write on it? I could keep going, but you get the point. I want the maximum effectivness out of every product I BUY, and I don't want someone to tell me I cannot. Once I BUY it, it is MINE.
    1. l0k0's Avatar
      l0k0 -
      LMMFAO. Its amazing how this world has gone to **** over the past years. No wonder everyone is criminals now days. Because there is nothing you can do in this so called free world that is actually FUN, without it being against the law in some way shape or form.

      Next up, someone finds and Iphone5 in prison before the Iphone5 is even released.
    1. Snozberries's Avatar
      Snozberries -
      Quote Originally Posted by Michael Essany View Post

      Hotz has all but 10 days to comply with the court order and fork over his computers to the PlayStation maker.
      file an 'inJUNKtion' with the same stupid judge that Sony has NO RIGHT to confiscate his pc's. if he's a corp. entity (i hope), he can file on the grounds of trade secrets being on the same equipment as the PS3 jb (JB for iDevices/WP7/etc.). This should piss Sony off just enough to realize that they got a lil lucky. GL homeboy.

      -Hack The Planet!!

      Quote Originally Posted by OleBayCrab View Post
      He had to go and pick a gaming system. They are considered CPU's. Geo needed to just stick with the smartphones. They are protected. Now he's SCREWED. SONY ain't gonna just take it. They have more lawyers, they will make his life miserable. The "intent" doesn't matter, its the end result that's got him in hot water.
      where is ron goldman when you need him??
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      It's a shame
    1. Snozberries's Avatar
      Snozberries -
      Gotta do it Mr. Essany. I'll refer you all back to a previous mmi editorial striking a raised eyebrow about the sony/apple bed time story about when the maybe rumor was something like this...

      Rumor: Apple May Acquire Sony

      Apple tossing cash at Sony after this court case could come to fruition...
    1. bigboyz's Avatar
      bigboyz -
      HAHAHHA! Only $$ hungry conglomerates care about piracy/hacking! WE ALL LOVE IT as it gives us technology we should already have anyway. Instead of giving 2 cents we get the whole DOLLAR :]
    1. csglinux's Avatar
      csglinux -
      I hope nobody buys the PSP2. After this little stunt, I'm done buying Sony products.
    1. PM5K's Avatar
      PM5K -
      Geohot is a God to me, the iPhone and the PS3. He's got a bit of a big head but I'd probably be the same way if I had those skills.

      Now let me go wipe this stuff off my nose.
    1. CX3NT3_713's Avatar
      CX3NT3_713 -
      Damn!!! This is unfair' he done nothing wrong
    1. AUZambo's Avatar
      AUZambo -
      Quote Originally Posted by ipod touch u View Post
      if jailbreaking is legal in the US, why would it be possible for apple to persecute someone for making a jailbreak? they had no intentions of causing piracy, its a known fact that piracy would be made easier on a jailbroken device. but why make it legal in the first place if you knew it was inevitable
      Exactly. Putting a restraining order on JB developers, and/or jailbreaking illegal based on the possibility of pirating is ridiculous.

      It'd be about like making hotrods illegal because people MIGHT drive carelessly in them breaking traffic laws. You cannot control what people do with the car, nor can you control what they do with jailbroken devices. The purpose of a hot rod is not to break the law, nor is the purpose of jailbreaking to promote piracy.