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  • [APPLE] Jaibreaking Breaks the iPhone, Ends the World

    Apple has ampd up their Jailbreaking attacks once again publishing a list of ways jailbreaking is a "major source of instability, disruption of services, and other issues." This follows just a few short days after Apple's claims that jailbreaking is for drug dealers and continues Apple's anti-jailbreak propaganda in their effort to make jailbreaking illegal.

    Lets examine all of Apple's claims:
    Device and application instability: Frequent and unexpected crashes of the device, crashes and freezes of built-in apps and third-party apps, and loss of data.
    Yes this rarely happens through bad combinations of apps off of Cydia. As the jailbreak community grows older these issues occur less and less and when they are identified they are typically fixed asap by devs. That is a risk you take when installing third party software, albeit a minor one.
    Unreliable voice and data: Dropped calls, slow or unreliable data connections, and delayed or inaccurate location data.
    What does this have to do with jailbreaking exactly? There are plenty of people with non-jailbroken iPhones experiencing these problems. BS.
    Disruption of services: Services such as Visual Voicemail, YouTube, Weather, and Stocks have been disrupted or no longer work on the device. Additionally, third-party apps that use the Apple Push Notification Service have had difficulty receiving notifications or received notifications that were intended for a different hacked device. Other push-based services such as MobileMe and Exchange have experienced problems synchronizing data with their respective servers.
    This concerning hacktivated unlocked iPhones on networks that aren't "approved" by Apple. Jailbroken iPhones that are on "legitimate" carriers and aren't hacktivated don't appear to have this issue at all (mine doesn't). This stems back to the dev team's push fix for the hacktivated iPhones on non-Apple carriers and I'll have to point out that that push fix is still in alpha, and it is likely that some devs are working on addressing the issue.

    The issue has nothing to do with jailbreaking and everything to do with unlocking. Since unlocking is perfectly legal in the US Apple is trying to attack jailbreaking instead. Ya know, cloak and dagger, smoke and mirrors, BS.
    Compromised security: Security compromises have been introduced by these modifications that could allow hackers to steal personal information, damage the device, attack the wireless network, or introduce malware or viruses.
    Using computers or nearly anything electronic increases your odds of allowing hackers to steal personal information. That is like saying using a windows computer to download porn could possible introduce malware and viruses. Solution? Make Windows illegal. Once again ridiculous. Maybe Apple should worry about things like an SMS vulnerability that affects all iPhones instead of just jailbroken ones.
    Shortened battery life: The hacked software has caused an accelerated battery drain that shortens the operation of an iPhone or iPod touch on a single battery charge.
    Running applications shortens battery life. Any application jailbroken or not. On any operating system. Anywhere. That's why Apple battery life specs for all of its devices including computers are higher than real life.

    I for one enjoy being able to do other things on my iPhone while listening to Pandora. The shortened battery life is an trivial consequence that I'm aware of and accept.
    Inability to apply future software updates: Some unauthorized modifications have caused damage to the iPhone OS that is not repairable. This can result in the hacked iPhone or iPod touch becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone OS update is installed.
    Jailbreaking is extremely safe. There are millions of Jailbroken iPhones in the world that are operating just fine with out any permanent damage. I'd argue that 99.9% of the .01% of cases where an iPhone is "permanently damaged" because of Jailbreaking is the result of a user not understanding how to restore properly.

    This looks like more of a warning that Apple intends to purposely create an update designed to break Jailbroken devices than current fact.

    via apple thx JazJon for the tip
    This article was originally published in forum thread: [APPLE] Jaibreaking Breaks the iPhone, Ends the World started by Cody Overcash View original post
    Comments 154 Comments
    1. angiepangie's Avatar
      angiepangie -
      What doesn't work what way?
    1. equlizer's Avatar
      equlizer -
      If i can't jailbreak, ill just not own another apple product ever again. Guess they will never realize that hundreds of thousands of people buy the phone just to do this and therefor would never sell them. Very few people actually use the jailbreak to use hacked software so iduno what the hell apple is thinking
    1. eaglesteve's Avatar
      eaglesteve -
      Exactly. Many people literally would not touch iPhone with a pole if they can't jailbreak it. I believe Apple would be foolish to push their case, as they would certainly lose many existing and potential customers if people are actually prosecuted for jailbreaking.
    1. angiepangie's Avatar
      angiepangie -
      I wouldn't - because AT&T sucks and JB is needed for UL.
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      The jailbreak makes it so much better, but I would still use an iPhone if I didn't know what I was missing with a jailbreak.
    1. angiepangie's Avatar
      angiepangie -
      haha me too. I used it for like a month without jailbreak happily with my piggy back sim (which was pretty good too). stupid 2.2 had to rope me into this whole world :/
    1. JerseyScottie's Avatar
      JerseyScottie -
      I actually just finished restoring my phone to get rid of the jailbreak a few hours ago.The jailbreak even when not using applications was causing my battery to drain EXTREMELY fast not to mention constant crashing..this is with no special theme.Just a few simple apps like iphone video recorder for example installed on the phone.Insert my now non-jailbroken phone with 2 pages of apps, i've been using the apps all night and its only dropped from 100% to 99% batt life(didnt uninstall the battery life cydia plugin so it stayed when restoring.)not to mention 0 crashed apps.If i were still jailbroken the batt life EASLY would have dropped to atleast 60%.Yes i'm prepared to get flamed by the apple and dev fanboys
    1. gaasedal's Avatar
      gaasedal -
      I had a iPhone 2G Jailbreaked - now I have a HTC Hero.
      I love my MacBook Pro, and I will never use a PC again - it's only troubles with Microsoft OS.
      My iPhone was always working, and sure it was jailbreaked - I'd think it worked much better than a not jailbreaked one.
      I love Apple products, but I don't like when Apple are using the same bad trick as Microsoft are using.
      Shame on you
    1. kulohe's Avatar
      kulohe -
      This is the reason why Bill Gates far surpassed Apple, Mr Jobs just dont get it after all these years?????????
    1. athynz's Avatar
      athynz -
      Quote Originally Posted by dale1v View Post
      "Hi guys I have a problem with my phone, I messed something up while (doing unsupported activity) and now my phone is #%^ up;! what should I do?
      "restore, send it back to Apple and they'll replace it for free. Press thanks on your way out."

      while jailbreaking adds more for you to do, it adds more opportunities for something to wrong as well. Every iPhone replaced by Apple because someone messes it up (a mess up that would not otherwise have happened if the phone was stock) while trying a mod is an uneccessary cost to-

      Hell, if I made electronics and had to give you new ones because you kept tampering with them, I'd get pretty fed with leaking money as well.

      Again, shouting "screw you apple, your idiots" (NB: bad spelling makes one appear a lot less intelligent) does nothing...
      Even if jailbreaking does become illegal I'm sure many here will still do it to "stick it to the man". Just don't run to the man when your phone is kaput;
      it's only consistency.
      I'll admit the scenario you lay out yes that would be wrong. Sure jailbreaking does indeed greatly increase the risk of something going wrong with the iPhone but one can always do a total restore and either try again or run stock if the screw up is during the jailbreak process or delete the app if it is a bad app combo installed via cydia or another non authorized app store.

      No offense but you seem to be almost as alarmist as the people at Apple - the difference being that your arguments do make sense and that you aren't calling me a drug dealer...

      Quote Originally Posted by Risingstar View Post
      All of Apple's claim's are true in every sense. This whole "Fact: Disproved" thing you have going on seems like it's coming from an inexperienced mind. Jailbreaking DOES cause the iPhone to become more unstable, jailbreaking DOES reduce battery life, jailbreaking DOES increase the risk of viruses being introduced to the iPhone. The Dev Team is working with what is basically the barebones of the iPhone. They could easily create a program that could track everything you do and stick it in with one of the QuickPwn or Pwnage Tool releases (why they would want to do that is a whole other question).
      Really? Give up some proof because I've been jailbreaking my iPhone ever since 2.0 and iPhone 3G and so far the ONLY issue I've ever had was jailbreaking 2.2.1 (I'm running 3.0 jailbroken now) and once I got that straight I've had nothing but smooth sailing with my jailbroken iPhone.

      Based on my personal experience jailbreaking in and of itself does NOT make the iPhone unstable - a bad combo of apps can but that is an extremely rare occurance and one that is usually corrected. As for the reduced battery life - if one installs the backgrounder app which gives the iPhone true multitasking and runs several apps at once (ala Palm Pre) then yes that is true. Personally I don't use it because I'm good with the way the iPhone handles tasks normally. I tend to run the stock OS updates about a week or so prior to jailbreaking because I want a baseline to see how jailbreaking a particular OS will affect the speed and battery life of my iPhone and so far there has been no difference.

      And as for the increased risk of viruses - where is your proof? There is a documented case of the SMS vunerability present in the unmoddded, unjailbroken Apple iPhone OS but where is the documentation of a different virus or vunerability on a jailbroken iPhone?
    1. DarkTheory93's Avatar
      DarkTheory93 -
      could apple legally make an update that permanently bricks your device if it's jail broken?
    1. angiepangie's Avatar
      angiepangie -
      ^Um I *think* Apple has released a firmware that disabled jailbroken devices but they found a way around it... very unsure about this though. I wasn't around during the early days.
    1. bneyman's Avatar
      bneyman -
      The bottom line is that the phone is mine, I have the right to do with it what I wish, and that any instability, etc., etc., is at my own risk. I should add that I've used a jailbroken iPhone (two different models) for two years now without any of the tragic consequences with which Apple is attempting to frighten the public. Apple may eat my shorts (and address all jailbreaking complaints to my attorney).
    1. HappyBunny's Avatar
      HappyBunny -
      Why does Apple even care? The more iPhones sold, the better, right? the unlocked ones have to be bought from apple at some point. They should just be glad people want their product so much. And if they hadn't made a deal with the devil (AT&T) then we woulnt have to jailbreak the phone anyway.